Paint just won't seem to adhere to whatever's under there.
Leaking bath waste but bath is tiled in
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Soldato
Water damaged ceilings do this...
How long has it been dry? Presume you have pulled the moisture out with a dehumidifier?
Are you sure its not leaking anymore?
If its now dry and not getting any worse, invest in some Zinsser 123... The stuff works miracles!
How long has it been dry? Presume you have pulled the moisture out with a dehumidifier?
Are you sure its not leaking anymore?
If its now dry and not getting any worse, invest in some Zinsser 123... The stuff works miracles!
not sure if a damp meter would help establish problem extent, don't wait.
I had to have a serious lump of ceiling taken down after a long term plumbing drip from bathroom (poorly soldered joint)
.... before it was squared up to insert new section.....
I had to have a serious lump of ceiling taken down after a long term plumbing drip from bathroom (poorly soldered joint)
.... before it was squared up to insert new section.....
Soldato
Showed this thread to a plumber and a joiner and both have said if he is talking about going through the ceiling beneath to tell him to **** off.
He’s either;
A cowboy
Hasn’t a clue
Lazy
Or all of the above.
My above summation is a much more reserved version of their replies.
He’s either;
A cowboy
Hasn’t a clue
Lazy
Or all of the above.
My above summation is a much more reserved version of their replies.
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Famous last words.
However bad your ceiling is right now, you're probably going to want access to the bath again at some point, so it would make sense for the guy who's fitted the bathroom to do it for you. It would be naive to think that you're not going to have any issues with the plumbing in future, so what are you going to do when that happens and you have a nice new ceiling downstairs?
Soldato
To be fair, I don't think most people have access to their shower waste? (I'd have to rip up my floor and possibly wall tiles to access it! :X )
Soldato
As a long time DIYer I had to take into account "What if something goes wrong" and as this thread shows a mistake was made - I have found with tradesmen they never make things easy for anyone else - I suppose one plumber is giving another a worth while job. - My job was fault finding so when doing my own jobs I built easy access into the job - my main grouch is drain valves - I have always extended them to front of what ever - put stop tap on and if possible extend pipe out side - At my old house all could be drained in minutes - that's hot water and heating - At this house I had to get plumber in to fit combi and asked him to extend drain to front of unit - Did he ?? - If I lie on my side and push and stretch I can with my finger tips just undo tap one 1/4 turn at a time - I did expect to pay for it.
As regards this thread I would have made sure all pipes were renewed and any vertical to horizontal bends supported underneath the bend - I to would be totally peed off having to have such a nice tile job ripped out because of a leaking pipe.
Good luck OP
ps My shower tray is accessible underneath - just pull panel off - not as neat as in the floor but bullet proof.
As regards this thread I would have made sure all pipes were renewed and any vertical to horizontal bends supported underneath the bend - I to would be totally peed off having to have such a nice tile job ripped out because of a leaking pipe.
Good luck OP
ps My shower tray is accessible underneath - just pull panel off - not as neat as in the floor but bullet proof.
Here's an update bath fans, since I know we all love a good bit of schadenfreude.
The bloke came round first thing this morning and we enacted our plan. First he cut a hole in the ceiling to investigate.
This confirmed that the leak was coming from above the floorboards.
Another view across the void showing heating pipes.
This made it clear we needed access from the bathroom, so blokey then smashed off a tile resulting in:
The leak was then identified as coming from the point the overflow meets the main waste trap. Apparently one of the washers was perished due to the products we put down there to dissolve the blockages causing slow drainage ><.
And here's an image showing where the new waste pipe joins onto the old and goes under the bathroom floor:
As I write he's gone off to get some bits to sort it. He's asked me to go and get the matching silicone from the showroom!
Then the plan is that he'll cut the new tile and silicone it on instead of grouting, so it's easy to pop off in future if required.
The bloke came round first thing this morning and we enacted our plan. First he cut a hole in the ceiling to investigate.
This confirmed that the leak was coming from above the floorboards.
Another view across the void showing heating pipes.
This made it clear we needed access from the bathroom, so blokey then smashed off a tile resulting in:
The leak was then identified as coming from the point the overflow meets the main waste trap. Apparently one of the washers was perished due to the products we put down there to dissolve the blockages causing slow drainage ><.
And here's an image showing where the new waste pipe joins onto the old and goes under the bathroom floor:
As I write he's gone off to get some bits to sort it. He's asked me to go and get the matching silicone from the showroom!
Then the plan is that he'll cut the new tile and silicone it on instead of grouting, so it's easy to pop off in future if required.
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Good result then. The small cut out of ceiling will be easy to replace and patch over when you re decorate
Soldato
I still can't believe you let him cut a hole in your ceiling 
At least he saw sense and didn't start cutting through the floor boards too!
At least it got sorted.
At least he saw sense and didn't start cutting through the floor boards too!
At least it got sorted.
Bit of filler and sorted. Sort of.
Soldato
Would be interested to know if you can actually fill that bit of ceiling to sort it. Ive got similar from aj electrician putting a hole in the wrong place and it's never looked quite right!
(drilled a 40mm hole for a downlight in the wrong place!)
(drilled a 40mm hole for a downlight in the wrong place!
)
Soldato
I bet the plumber breathed a good sigh of relief - At least it will be job well done. 
I'm getting the ceiling skimmed once all fixed and I've scraped the paint off, so it doesn't matter if I can hide it or not.
Soldato
Ah fair, mine was onto a freshly skimmed ceiling! :X
Doh.
Anyway bloke's coming back to fix the missing tile on Monday once we've confirmed no leaks over the weekend.
... good stuff
ultimately I did not understand logic of cutting ceiling - I had thought floarboards had been cut beneath bath to help with bath clearance/installation,
so this would give visibility, but if not, it was always going to be necessary to remove a tile ? so do that first.
ultimately I did not understand logic of cutting ceiling - I had thought floarboards had been cut beneath bath to help with bath clearance/installation,
so this would give visibility, but if not, it was always going to be necessary to remove a tile ? so do that first.
Get a fan heater in there if you have one, try and dry it out.
Also wouldn’t silicone personally, would make a tiled hatch but each to their own
Good shout regards fan heater.
Pardon my ignorance but what's a tiled hatch and why is it preferable to siliconing the tile?
We thought that too, and if that had been correct, we wouldn't have had to remove any tiles in the bathroom, which given a shoddy ceiling was always preferable. I think this is one of those risk / rewards payoff scenarios, whereby if the leak had been staring us in the face after we cut the hole in the ceiling, we'd have been quids in.
As it happens the leak was above the boards, making it harder, but the ultimate outcome was better than the worst case, being removal of the whole bath panel.