Legal aid should not fund asylum legal action.

stockhausen said:
Perhaps you might consider providing a link to these Daily Mail type scare stories?
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Last time i did that one of the mods started telling me how boring it was.

But for you, anything;

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...flight-cancelled-minute-legal-challenges.html


Perhaps a simple fix would be to just send them, and allow their lawyer to field their case for them, and if the appeal is successful they can come back at their own expense.

After all I'm not sure what being present at the appeal means when lots of cases are heard via zoom meetings during covid anyway.
 
Mrwong said:
There is no infrastructure to support people in this country, adding to the population with out having infrastructure to cope will lead problems .
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Whose fault is that then? Oh guess, Govenment. The same Govenment people keep voting it. You can't have it both ways.
Don't sign up to international treaties then if you can't be bothered to ensure things are run properly at home. It's half the reason for Brexit. Half arsed country management, lack of investment then blame it on someone else.

The Govenment knew full well what it's International and Internal obligations were when they slashed council budgets. But it found money out of thing air for the Covid crisis didn't it? So it's a matter of priorities. The money is there to ensure those most vunerable are looked after, the same as the money was there to continue the work to stop inner city kids from joining gangs and to stop a massive increase in knife crime. The money was there that they didn't have to slash the Police by 30,000. Some of us believe we have an obligation to look after the very small genuine numbers arriving and that there were always the resources there to do it.

Mrwong said:
Most reports are carried out with hidden agendas or those that will profit from uncontrollable immigration.
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Yes of course they always are :rolleyes:
The UK does not have large scale uncontrolled immigration.
 
redeye said:
Whose fault is that then? Oh guess, Govenment. The same Govenment people keep voting it. You can't have it both ways.
Don't sign up to international treaties then if you can't be bothered to ensure things are run properly at home. It's half the reason for Brexit. Half arsed country management, lack of investment then blame it on someone else.

The Govenment knew full well what it's International and Internal obligations were when they slashed council budgets. But it found money out of thing air for the Covid crisis didn't it? So it's a matter of priorities. The money is there to ensure those most vunerable are looked after, the same as the money was there to continue the work to stop inner city kids from joining gangs and to stop a massive increase in knife crime. The money was there that they didn't have to slash the Police by 30,000. Some of us believe we have an obligation to look after the very small genuine numbers arriving and that there were always the resources there to do it.
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Well it’s just called an ideology. You have it. You believe things that are not true. Only in vision and idea of certain management. We don’t have any affiliation to these people. None at all. We never asked for them, the majority don’t want them here. The government was elected on a manifesto to sort out immigration as was Brexit. Yes there are issues. We need a strong right sided no nonsense government to break all this rubbish and fix it once and for all.

Yes of course they always are :rolleyes:
The UK does not have large scale uncontrolled immigration.
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What absolute garbage. The Country has been flooded for generations for the Blair days. It’s continuing now. It’s needs to stop !!.
 
redeye said:
Whose fault is that then? Oh guess, Govenment. The same Govenment people keep voting it. You can't have it both ways.
Don't sign up to international treaties then if you can't be bothered to ensure things are run properly at home. It's half the reason for Brexit. Half arsed country management, lack of investment then blame it on someone else.

The Govenment knew full well what it's International and Internal obligations were when they slashed council budgets. But it found money out of thing air for the Covid crisis didn't it? So it's a matter of priorities. The money is there to ensure those most vunerable are looked after, the same as the money was there to continue the work to stop inner city kids from joining gangs and to stop a massive increase in knife crime. The money was there that they didn't have to slash the Police by 30,000. Some of us believe we have an obligation to look after the very small genuine numbers arriving and that there were always the resources there to do it.

Yes of course they always are :rolleyes:
The UK does not have large scale uncontrolled immigration.
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We're a little island and not as "rich" as you think, when you look at the average Joe on the street (or in the crumbling housing estate/high-rise tower).

Sure, let's open the floodgates to full immigration from the African and Indian continents. What could possibly go wrong?

We'll just keep packing them in until there's no room to swing a cat. And then we can inherit all of Africa and India's problems too. Won't that be fun.

No doubt *everyone* who comes will be an asylum seeker. They all are! Especially the 40 year old children - won't somebody think of them?!
 
The Running Man said:
Last time i did that one of the mods started telling me how boring it was.

But for you, anything;

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...flight-cancelled-minute-legal-challenges.html
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From the Daily Mail article you referenced:
The plane was scheduled to leave the UK on Thursday morning, but had to be scrapped while the appeals are considered.
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It is certainly something of a surprise that a plane had to be scrapped because of a legal challenge :eek:

The Home Office accused such legal claims of typically being 'baseless and entirely without merit'.

The comments come as the department was forced to abandon using a Dad's Army-style video where it accused 'activist lawyers' of trying to disrupt the asylum system.

Simon Davis, president of the Law Society, said: 'Attacks on the integrity of the legal profession undermine the rule of law. To describe lawyers who are upholding the law as 'activist lawyers' is misleading and dangerous.'
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It is so very inconvenient when Lawyers use the laws implemented by the Government :rolleyes:


Priti Patel is a complete moron, only kept in place so that at some future time Johnson can throw her under his bus as a sacrifice to save his skin.
 
FoxEye said:
We're a little island and not as "rich" as you think, when you look at the average Joe on the street (or in the crumbling housing estate/high-rise tower).

Sure, let's open the floodgates to full immigration from the African and Indian continents. What could possibly go wrong?

We'll just keep packing them in until there's no room to swing a cat. And then we can inherit all of Africa and India's problems too. Won't that be fun.

No doubt *everyone* who comes will be an asylum seeker. They all are! Especially the 40 year old children - won't somebody think of them?!
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The Brexiteer Paradox v3.4

We're so great and prosperous every other country will kneel before us, but also so poor we can't afford charity.
 
wesimmo said:
The Brexiteer Paradox v3.4

We're so great and prosperous every other country will kneel before us, but also so poor we can't afford charity.
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If you don’t respect it, why are you here ?
Why not consider being somewhere closer to that of your ideology. As all you seem to do is hate everything about it.
 
wesimmo said:
The Brexiteer Paradox v3.4

We're so great and prosperous every other country will kneel before us, but also so poor we can't afford charity.
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This low-effort nonsense is rather wearying.

Yadda yadda, "gammon", yadda yadda "racists", yadda "alt-right", yadda "Brexit"...

... yawn.

1. "Kneel before us"? Pure nonsense I'm afraid.
2. The constant stream of immigrants is partly due to the traffickers flat-out lying about the UK being some utopia where everyone lives like kings on free handouts.
The reality when they see the crap-holes they end up in is probably rather anti-climactic.

Why immigrants pass over perfectly satisfactory places like Sweden and France on their way to this supposed immigrant utopia is truly beyond my comprehension.
 
stockhausen said:
From the Daily Mail article you referenced:
It is certainly something of a surprise that a plane had to be scrapped because of a legal challenge :eek:

It is so very inconvenient when Lawyers use the laws implemented by the Government :rolleyes:


Priti Patel is a complete moron, only kept in place so that at some future time Johnson can throw her under his bus as a sacrifice to save his skin.
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My point is why can't they appeal from abroad?

Why do their lawyers launch the challenges hours before the flight is due to depart?

Its called gaming the system.

Like i said, call in a bunch of prosecutors and judges from Mykonos to review the cases and kick out the appeals. This problem would be wrapped up by Xmas and these lawyers wouldn't even bother.
 
McstylisT said:
If you don’t respect it, why are you here ?
Why not consider being somewhere closer to that of your ideology. As all you seem to do is hate everything about it.
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So, because I have a different view as to how MY country of birth should be, I should leave it to people who think like you?

I don't hate everything about my country, but that doesn't mean I have to like everything about it and excuse any bad bits. I still love my child despite there being things about her that I'd like to see change.

FoxEye said:
This low-effort nonsense is rather wearying.

Yadda yadda, "gammon", yadda yadda "racists", yadda "alt-right", yadda "Brexit"...

... yawn.

1. "Kneel before us"? Pure nonsense I'm afraid.
2. The constant stream of immigrants is partly due to the traffickers flat-out lying about the UK being some utopia where everyone lives like kings on free handouts.
The reality when they see the crap-holes they end up in is probably rather anti-climactic.

Why immigrants pass over perfectly satisfactory places like Sweden and France on their way to this supposed immigrant utopia is truly beyond my comprehension.
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Did I say gammon or racist? Though that you label yourself like that isn't really a surprise given that's the opinion I've gained from your choice of positions on here.

Obviously kneel before us was hyperbolic, but are you seriously suggesting that a big part of the Brexiteer argument hasn't been that the EU need us more than we need them and similar nonsense?
 
FoxEye said:
@wesimmo This isn't a Brexit thread, so we don't need to re-hash (eternally) all the Brexit arguments.
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It would seem difficult to have any meaningful discussion on refugees without discussion about Brexit given it fundamentally changes the way we can deal, legally, with refugees.

It also makes it difficult when a particular poster is trying to suggest they are debating with intellectual honesty when their views on different subjects are at odds with each other.
 
Psycho and Janesy…..lol.

If you aint going to offer anything outside of 'YOU RACIST DERP DERP' just go to another thread.

The adults here are trying to disseminate the issues of the day.
 
FoxEye said:
@wesimmo This isn't a Brexit thread, so we don't need to re-hash (eternally) all the Brexit arguments.
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Look, EU freedom of movement was never meant to enable gangmaster led zombie eastern European work forces destroying minimum labour prices across Europe.

It was designed to enable companies to set up across Europe and allow their staff to work from different countries, or for Germans to work in France or vice versa. Adding skillsets and growing economies. Not shifting the lowest common denominator or allowing people from countries with a low gdp to come earn from a higher gdp country and send the money back home (economic withdrawal) and abuse higher levels of benefits from countries with a higher cost of living.

The problem was the EU expanded maybe too much too quickly without changing the tenants of freedom of movement which was not intended to be exploited in this way.
 
Zatoichi.uK said:
It certainly seems like you are advocating for communism. The track record for it throughout the 20th century speaks for itself. I get that people, especially young people that struggle to aquire any capital may feel like the system is rigged but to flip it 180 and decide to adopt a system that is responsible for so may deaths isn't a solution anyone with any knowledge of history is going to buy into.

Money out of politics would be a good start thats for sure. But straight up equality of outcome? That's not going to be good for anyone.

Personally I'm going to setup a hobbit like commune and smoke pipework, drink homebrew and dance on tables. Maybe a cool wizard will come and visit one day.
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Ahhh it all makes sense now.....hes a commie, but is too unintelligent to realize this.

Yes lets all march into communism and see what happens.....christ….
 
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