Lenovo Legion Go

[Purgatory]

You

You mentioned the screen, how is gaming on it with a smaller screen is it massively different to the ROG? Or do you find yourself holding the Core closer to see it better?

I was holding it about the same, if you have a 6" phone it is basically that size screen. My eye sight in recent months has suddenly changed and I never had issues with eye sight and don't wear glasses, but anything with small writing at about a 10" to a foot away from my eyes will come into focus any closer it blurs now maybe age finally or the years of working on computer screens finally catching up or just tired eyes as sometimes it is not as bad.

What I just tried now is I just held it where I felt comfortable and natural and I can see it clearly. So I don't feel like I'm bringing it in closer than I would naturally have it anyways. Also the screen is down when I did this and when screen up and angled towards me and means the screen is slightly more away from me and same position and didn't bring it closer or adjusted how I was sat or holding it. It is more comfortable to use with screen up and angled though.

 

[umboma]

I was holding it about the same, if you have a 6" phone it is basically that size screen. My eye sight in recent months has suddenly changed and I never had issues with eye sight and don't wear glasses, but anything with small writing at about a 10" to a foot away from my eyes will come into focus any closer it blurs now maybe age finally or the years of working on computer screens finally catching up or just tired eyes as sometimes it is not as bad.

What I just tried now is I just held it where I felt comfortable and natural and I can see it clearly. So I don't feel like I'm bringing it in closer than I would naturally have it anyways. Also the screen is down when I did this and when screen up and angled towards me and means the screen is slightly more away from me and same position and didn't bring it closer or adjusted how I was sat or holding it. It is more comfortable to use with screen up and angled though.

So no real issues with seeing the hud for example in FPS games, I have no eye issues but its nice to know it's all clear and easy to see.

Also I think you've convinced me to get one, I almost got one last time before they went out of stock.

 

[Purgatory]

So no real issues with seeing the hud for example in FPS games, I have no eye issues but its nice to know it's all clear and easy to see.

Also I think you've convinced me to get one, I almost got one last time before they went out of stock.

Use https://www.displaywars.com/ and add in the size and aspect ratio to get a better idea, you better be quick last white one if white is what you want and 5 or 6 black ones left too, seem to be flying out they had I think 12 when they notified me of the black or 15 and white wasn't listed yet but an hour later they had 10 white too and now 1 that was Thursday, still think people have not noticed they are back in stock and watching Antec site where they have all gone worldwide when you try adding to basket, they also said once all stock for the launch bundles go that will be it and only the units at £499 for 16GB +512GB SSD and £799 for 32GB + 2TB SSD and no free accessories, I see on Reddit people are upset around the world they are gone so quick and the stock now at the UK retailer for the bundle is the cheapest so far at £549.99 even Antec had it for £599 when in stock.

You have 14 days to return it if not for you, that's why I also got it from them too, never had issues returning stuff to them in past.

 

[Emlyn_Dewar]

I think you make too big a deal about the drivers on the Z1 chips. I've been side loading drivers for the last few releases on the Legion Go and it's been fine. The reason the official drivers take so long is because these companies can't be bothered.
I hear there can be issues using Lenovos performance overlay, or something, when doing this... But I'm gaming on a handheld, I don't want temp, fps and nonsense readouts from Lenovo Space on the screen at all times.

 

[FlyingFish]

Have any of you guys (sorry it's a bit quiet in the Ally thread ) tried/side loaded the AFMF2 beta drivers yet?

It's really impressive the impact it has on game performance, and seems to be a lot more stable regarding image quality than lossless scaling on steam.

 

[umboma]

Have any of you guys (sorry it's a bit quiet in the Ally thread ) tried/side loaded the AFMF2 beta drivers yet?

It's really impressive the impact it has on game performance, and seems to be a lot more stable regarding image quality than lossless scaling on steam.

I've personally not tried it but from reviews albeit AMFM2 might give a few more frames it come at the cost of some ghosting while Lossless scaling is slighty better image quilaty.

 

[Rroff]

Have any of you guys (sorry it's a bit quiet in the Ally thread ) tried/side loaded the AFMF2 beta drivers yet?

It's really impressive the impact it has on game performance, and seems to be a lot more stable regarding image quality than lossless scaling on steam.

Personally not a fan of frame gen, it kind of works if you are getting 60-70FPS with it producing 100-120 somewhat convincingly, but anything much under 60, which is where you'll often be with these handhelds, and personally I can really tell it isn't real frames and often the visual artefacts (judder, etc.) are worse than a lower frame rate.

One of the reasons I like the Go the 1280x800 resolution with correct scaling is more useable than 720p and performs far better than 1080p.

 

[FlyingFish]

I've used Lossless scaling for a while, and it is quite amazing at upscaling and also the frame gen options do work quite well, but I have found that moving objects really highlight the image distortion around edges. And that really breaks the immersion.

The reason I was asking about AFMF2, is AMD seem to have done away with a lot of image artifacts in frame generation while still maintaining the boost in performance. I had to keep checking that it was turned on, as it looked so good

Whether or not the improvement is more noticeable due to free sync & VRR, I'm not sure. But it's definitely worth a try for a 'free' performance increase, especially allowing you to keep your native res.

 

[umboma]

Why do they even bother putting 1080p or 2k screens on the handhelds, I think Steam deck has it right with the 800p screen for the best res to fps performance, I mean in most reviews on what ever handheld your interested in the reviewer seems to put it on 720 or 800p with some upscaling for the best fps to quality settings.

 

[Purgatory]

Have any of you guys (sorry it's a bit quiet in the Ally thread ) tried/side loaded the AFMF2 beta drivers yet?

It's really impressive the impact it has on game performance, and seems to be a lot more stable regarding image quality than lossless scaling on steam.

AFMF2 works for me on the Antec Core HS/ Ayaneo Slide but it uses AMD's stock drivers for the Ryzen 7 7840U so no side loading needed, I see on youtube others have got it to work on Ally,LeGo too but side loading it may cause issues too and the Asus,LeGo control software may not work fully Legion Space/Asus Crate, so until they update the AMD drivers for their OEM devices. But can be done if you like to fiddle with drivers and windows.

Sometimes the AMD overlays don't work correctly on certain types of screens but there are fixes to sort it, so the overlays show correctly.

You can see here the AMD overlays I mean, should go straight to the point on the video needed :-

 

[FlyingFish]

Yeah it's not as easy on my Ally X, as just installing the drivers. But years of managing Windows, and forcing it to 'find' the right driver didn't come as a new thing

Your right about the overlay though. Armoury Create doesn't recognise frame gen figures, but AMD's own overlay works nine times out if ten which is perfectly fine.

 

[Bungee]

Any further feedback on the Antec @Purgatory?

I'm trying to decide between the Antec, Legion Go and possibly the Claw (as its £499)

 

[Rroff]

Any further feedback on the Antec @Purgatory?

I'm trying to decide between the Antec, Legion Go and possibly the Claw (as its £499)

The Go has gone on discount a few times recently so I'd keep an eye for sales albeit still over £500. Personally would definitely take it over the Claw.

The Go is going to be a little bit Marmite as some of it's best strengths are maybe a little adjacent to the handheld market like being able to detach the joycons, flip out the stand and use it as a general media/entertainment device but it seems to have the best build quality and support is at least making some kind of effort, unlike some of the competition.

 

[Purgatory]

Any further feedback on the Antec @Purgatory?

I'm trying to decide between the Antec, Legion Go and possibly the Claw (as its £499)

The Antec while it is on the offer with the free bundle, twice the memory of both the other devices and twice the ssd of the claw and 4 times the Legion Go. The claw has too many issues and worst performance, I sent it back. The legion Go's only advantage is the larger screen, but as stated half the RAM and so can't set higher VRAM for games that need it as you will run out of system RAM as they are shared.

Out of the three the Antec is the best overall and better priced. Only issue is the smaller 6" screen if you want a bigger screen and the screen is 60hz 1080p and no VRR, same on Legion GO 144Hz 8.8" 1600p no VRR.

Don't even consider the Claw as that is not even worth £250 in my book as it is useless for gaming, terrible performance and stutter issues with everything I tried on it gaming and many games would refuse to even run, due to no option to set VRAM as intel auto's this and a lot of games refuse to launch and even state not enough VRAM. The Intel driver issues and clearly MSI have given up on it too and why they are fire selling them and still can't get rid of them and soon will end up at £200-250.

Sorry just replying quickly as busy working and also not sure they are even still in stock as they were selling very quickly, let me check for you and will PM you in a sec.

 

[Purgatory]

The Go has gone on discount a few times recently so I'd keep an eye for sales albeit still over £500. Personally would definitely take it over the Claw.

The Go is going to be a little bit Marmite as some of it's best strengths are maybe a little adjacent to the handheld market like being able to detach the joycons, flip out the stand and use it as a general media/entertainment device but it seems to have the best build quality and support is at least making some kind of effort, unlike some of the competition.

The legion Go is on "sale" now again for £600 at a few places, Lenovo don't even list the Legion Go for sale anymore on their store and states "currently not available" but it was before they jacked it up to £700 and then vanished ever since.

The official dock for it is now on sale if you want one from £60 to £42 now:-

Lenovo Legion Go USB-C Dock | GX91P83589

This all-in-one gaming accessory transforms your Legion Go console, delivering a seamless and exhilarating gaming experience. Whether you’re powering up your console, sharing epic gameplay in ultra-high-definition or ensuring stutter-free performance with reliable Ethernet, this dock has got...

www.lenovo.com

Legion Go Update 08.09.2024

Hi Everyone, Thank you for your continued engagement and feedback, which have been invaluable in shaping the roadmap for Legion Go. I want to address some outstanding concerns that have been raised ...

gaming.lenovo.com

Worth reading if you own a Legion go. Read between the lines too..

 

[Purgatory]

Last black Antec Core HS Promotion Bundle left, so heads up if you are after one, all white colour have gone. ALL SOLD OUT!


PLEASE USE THIS THREAD FOR ANTEC CORE HS /AYANEO SLIDE INFORMATION, All UPDATES & HELP INFORMATION WILL BE THERE (trying not to mess up this thread for Legion GO (sorry guys/girls) :-

Antec Core HS / Ayaneo Slide Handheld PC Console (Questions & Support thread)

After doing the Windows updates, where do you get all the driver updates? Does AyaSpace cover all that? Windows update will grab most of everything that needs updating then after all the windows updates will be many, go into AyaSpace and click look for updates (Hold down the AyaSpace button...

forums.overclockers.co.uk

Also we have an ANTEC REP there to help us all out and giving us some great information .

 

[NZXT30]

For me the Legion Go is the only handheld I would consider as everything else is too small.

6" screen? That's smaller than my phone and I would never consider gaming on it.

I'll be waiting for an updated version with the new AMD Strix APUs or I might even jump in on a good deal near the holidays.

 

[umboma]

For me the Legion Go is the only handheld I would consider as everything else is too small.

6" screen? That's smaller than my phone and I would never consider gaming on it.

I'll be waiting for an updated version with the new AMD Strix APUs or I might even jump in on a good deal near the holidays.

Yeah I gotta say, I used my firends Legion Go over the weekend and it's ace, the screen is a perfect size I don't think I'd wanna go smaller, the only thing that has/had me wanting the Antec is the higher ram, Nvme and the freebies, but I think the Legion is the better option in the long run.

 

[Purgatory]

Yeah I gotta say, I used my firends Legion Go over the weekend and it's ace, the screen is a perfect size I don't think I'd wanna go smaller, the only thing that has/had me wanting the Antec is the higher ram, Nvme and the freebies, but I think the Legion is the better option in the long run.

This may interest you :-

https://www.acer.com/us-en/handheld-gaming/nitro-handheld-gaming/nitro-blaze-7

ACER unveils Nitro Blaze 7 gaming handheld with AMD Ryzen 7 8840HS - VideoCardz.com

ACER NITRO 7 gets last-gen Ryzen 7 processor Rumors were true, there is a new gaming handheld, but it is not based on Intel hardware. Following rumors about Acer’s potential entry into the gaming handheld market, the company has confirmed today that these rumors are true. Contrary to...

videocardz.com

Or

Acer reveal gamepad-spawning laptop, PC handheld, 600Hz monitor at IFA 2024

Acer announces a gamepad-spawning gaming laptop, a 600Hz esports monitor and a PC gaming handheld. Here's what we liked from the Berlin NextAtAcer event at IFA.

www.eurogamer.net

Again another handheld pc console device that can't get all things right... 16GB RAM again...says up to 2TB SSD but says it has a 2280 sized M.2 and may come with different sized ssds.. But has a 7" 144Hz Freesync VRR display, but looks like a device also for a child and very over the top gamer type... Specs are in the videocardz link and 8840HS not a 8840U so maybe just a cut down version with the AI rubbish fused off or AMDs binning them that way with the NPU disabled that is not needed for a gaming device anyways.

No price yet but we will guess £800 for UK and $750 for USA. Because we always get ripped off here. Anyways another miss by another big company that makes the devices. So far Asus are sat pretty for the 7" mainstream device with their Ally X, if it was only priced better, at £800 it's a nope from me.

EDIT new video with new information too :-

 

[FlyingFish]

No price yet but we will guess £800 for UK and $750 for USA. Because we always get ripped off here. Anyways another miss by another big company that makes the devices. So far Asus are sat pretty for the 7" mainstream device with their Ally X, if it was only priced better at £800 it's a nope from me.

With the original Ally (Z1 Extreme) now down to £450, I'm sure it wont be long before the X gets a discount. Especially with Black Friday/Monday whatever coming along soon in November.

My personal view is Asus needs to shelve the White original model, replace it with the X at a much friendlier price point, then I honestly think they would dominate the sector, especially if Steam OS has already been given the go ahead for the Ally (whatever that actually means in real life).

It is great though to see all these different models, and being spoilt for choice.