Let's all go on strike!

Hades said:
What winds me up is the unions always say it's a safety issue. But in reality it's usually about ensuring jobs are safe from modernisation and payrises are safe. I'd have far more support for them if they were just honest about it.
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But then it's really easy to justify the latter.
 
shifty_uk said:
Rights are fine but endlessly striking over pay increases...
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There are hardly any strikes nowadays.

A lot have come at once due to the time of year and the bargaining power it gives.

You are typical of the 'don't inconvenience me' brigade, as long as it is not your wage or conditions. Then it is different.

This is merely the continuation of the general discontent felt by 95% of the people of the country, the same discontent that brought you Brexit.
 
Dolph said:
Striking is not a sign of strength, but of failure. It means that whatever demands you are making can't be met by simply changing employers, so instead you throw a tantrum and demand it instead.

If you are that valuable, you don't need to strike.
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You talk so much BS it is unbelievable. Workers do not want to go on strike. Only in the delusional minds of the far right does this happen. Workers loose money by going on strike and so only do it as a last resort.

Normally it is poor management that is the cause. The UK has the master - servant mentality when it comes to industrial relations. Real wages and conditions have fallen for just about everybody and more strikes are inevitable. You cannot keep pushing down wages without some reaction from the people who are making the companies profits.
 
Back in the 60's worker protection was needed. By the 70's the unions were so strong they were killing British industry. After Margaret Thatcher fought them we still had a reasonable working standard (apart from certain industries obviously). After the early 90's recession there followed by an economic boom which required more workers. At that point in time it would have been relatively easy to just move jobs if you were unhappy. So unions were less important.

But since globalisation, automation and mass migration the pool of workers exceeds the available jobs once again. Now there is no incentive for a company to train or retain staff. If someone leaves they can be replaced easily and often on a zero hour contract. This has put control back in the hands of the large corporations.

Arguably we need unions again today. But that will not necessarily solve the issue. Striking will either damage industry again or it will just hasten more automation. For example I can't see train drivers being needed for the next generation of trains.
 
do_ron_ron said:
There are hardly any strikes nowadays.
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This is true.

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Last year was the second lowest on record for example. It just seems like there are a lot of strikes now because of the immediacy of news nowadays - which this forums is a prime example of.

c1tro said:
Only slaves don't have a right to strike.
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Quite a few posters in here seem quite content to be happy little worker slaves.
 
I feel bad for the workers and the public. I do however feel a grievance for the union reps... reminds me of an old carry on film where the reps were portrayed to be idle, pedantic idiots and the workers just wanted to get on with the job :(
 
Our workplace came to a standstill the other week. 200 people just stood around hacked off with doing overtime not being paid at overtime rate.

Guy came down from upstairs and basically said and pointed "If you don't want to work here, there's the ******* door", and walked off.

Needless to say, no one left.

Edit. Fail spelling
 
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Smokey Deza said:
Our workplace came to a standstill the other week. 200 people just stood around hacked off with doing overtime not being payed at overtime rate.

Guy came down from upstairs and basically said and pointed "If you don't want to work here, there's the ******* door", and walked off.

Needless to say, no one left.
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Where do you work, Sports Direct?
 
Smokey Deza said:
Our workplace came to a standstill the other week. 200 people just stood around hacked off with doing overtime not being payed at overtime rate.

Guy came down from upstairs and basically said and pointed "If you don't want to work here, there's the ******* door", and walked off.

Needless to say, no one left.
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And people say unions aren't needed anymore.
 
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Hades said:
What winds me up is the unions always say it's a safety issue. But in reality it's usually about ensuring jobs are safe from modernisation and payrises are safe. I'd have far more support for them if they were just honest about it.
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Yup. They can disguise it however they like, but the real motive boils down to one thing. Money - the root of all evil.

amigafan2003 said:
This is true.

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That chart 'conveniently' went up to 2015 and left 2016 off, nudge nudge wink wink.
 
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