LG 34GK950G, 3440x1440, G-Sync, 120Hz

This whole "downclocked", "overclocked", "underclocked" debacle is confusing indeed. That's partly because the terminology is itself nonsensical. The idea of a CPU being overclocked makes a lot of sense. It literally has a clock signal. For monitor panels, which don't have a clock signal, I'd say it's a BS marketing term that we've become so accustomed to, that we've stopped questioning it. As far as I can tell there is no formal definition of what a monitor "overclock" actually is, and whether or not it specifically applies to the panel.

I think most people understand it to mean this:

Panel manufacturers (Samsung, LG, AU Optronics) rate a given panel for a certain refresh rate. We've come to call this the "native" refresh rate. If the monitor OEM incorporates electronics that drive the panel at a higher refresh rate (with all the disadvantages that entails), then that's what we sloppily call an "overclock".

Note that there is NO SUCH THING as a panel "underclock" (and "downclocked" isn't a thing either). That makes as much sense as saying a car you're driving at 80 km/h is "underclocked" (because it could potentially achieve 220 km/h). If you send a 60Hz video signal to a 100Hz monitor, you're not underclocking it. You're just not driving/refreshing it at its highest refresh rate.

As Daniel - LG mentioned, it looks like the 34GK950G will use the UW5 panel. That LG lists this monitor as being 100 Hz native and 120Hz overclocked is what's confusing. However, since an "overclock" , as far as monitors go, is a technically meaningless marketing term, LG can use the term however they want. If the DP1.2 G-SYNC module is designed to achieve 100Hz at 3440x1440, and LG had to overclock it to achieve 120Hz, then that too can just as legitimately (arguably more so because that does use a clock signal) be called an "overclocked" monitor. I've read two (admittedly non-trustworthy) accounts saying this is what LG is doing.

I have no idea if that is true. However, if the term "overclocked" applies to the controller rather than the panel, that would at least make some sense of the mess we currently have.

The 34GK950G would then amount to:

A UW5 panel with a native 144Hz refresh rate (because that is what the manufacturer rates the panel for) which is neither over- nor underclocked. The panel's refresh rate would however be limited to 120Hz by the overclocked (but still underpowered) DP1.2 G-SYNC module.
 
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As Daniel - LG mentioned, it looks like the 34GK950G will use the UW5 panel. That LG lists this monitor as being 100 Hz native and 120Hz overclocked is what's confusing. However, since an "overclock" , as far as monitors go, is a technically meaningless marketing term, LG can use the term however they want. If the G-SYNC 1.2 module is designed to achieve 100Hz at 3440x1440, and LG had to overclock it to achieve 120Hz, then that too can just as legitimately (arguably more so because that does use a clock signal) be called an overclocked monitor. I've read two (admittedly non-trustworthy) accounts saying this is what LG is doing.

I have no idea if that is true. However, if the term "overclocked" applies to the controller rather than the panel, that would at least make sense of the mess we currently have.

We'd then have a G-SYNC using the same UW5 panel, with a native 144Hz refresh rate, which the overclocked G-SYNC module limits to a 120Hz refresh rate.

The question is: will that "overclock" from 100 to 120 be stable under UW5? Or will be a lottery of flickering issues same as UW4? Because too many people can't run 120Hz stable with their AW3418DW / X34P.
 
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The question is: will that "overclock" from 100 to 120 be stable under UW5? Or will be a lottery of flickering same as UW4? Because too many people can't achieve 120Hz with their AW3418DW / X34P.

If they are using the UW5, that IS a 144Hz native panel. The UW4 is native 100Hz, so it's perhaps no surprise a lot of owners of that panel can't achieve greater. This shouldn't be a problem with any monitor using the UW5 panel... in theory... unless the G-Sync module prevents it somehow, although I don't know why it would do that short of being faulty somehow. I'm fairly confident this monitor will achieve 120Hz if it's using the UW5 panel.
 
If they are using the UW5, that IS a 144Hz native panel. The UW4 is native 100Hz, so it's perhaps no surprise a lot of owners of that panel can't achieve greater. This shouldn't be a problem with any monitor using the UW5 panel... in theory... unless the G-Sync module prevents it somehow, although I don't know why it would do that short of being faulty somehow. I'm fairly confident this monitor will achieve 120Hz if it's using the UW5 panel.

They are using UW5 definitely.
If the bottleneck is the GSync module, it will be disappointing.
 
The question is: will that "overclock" from 100 to 120 be stable under UW5? Or will be a lottery of flickering same as UW4? Because too many people can't achieve 120Hz with their AW3418DW / X34P.

Not 100% sure I understand what you're asking, but I'm pretty sure we have no way of knowing without reviews ;-)

If the bottleneck is the GSync module, it will be disappointing.

The "IF" doesn't belong in that sentence. We've known for a long time already that the DP1.2 G-SYNC module will limit 3440x1440 to 120Hz.
 
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They are using UW5 definitely.
If the bottleneck is the GSync module, it will be disappointing.

Bottleneck will be the module... they aren't using the 1.4 as Nvidia aren't allowing that. Plus it would jack up the price close to £2K most likely.

The best we can hope for is an easy guaranteed 120Hz, either out the box or at the push of a button, and minimal bleed and glow (there will inevitably be some though). I've no idea what the Nano IPS will bring to the table vs the ultrawides that are just regular IPS, but I'm interested to see reviews when this eventually sees the light of day.
 
Not 100% sure I understand what you're asking, but I'm pretty sure we have no way of knowing without reviews ;-)



The "IF" doesn't belong in that sentence. We already know it's the DP1.2 G-SYNC module.

1. I mean, AW3418DW and X34P, which are using UW4, have many flickering issues when overclocking from 100 to 120Hz. And my question was if 34GK950G with UW5 will overclock without issues from 100Hz to 120Hz or not.

2. i know it will use DP 1.2 GSYNC module, but what we don't know is if this GSYNC module has a max stable Hz set to 100Hz in 3440x1440, or if using UW5 the 120Hz can be a new max stable Hz.

Sorry for my bad english.
 
1. I mean, AW3418DW and X34P, which are using UW4, have many flickering issues when overclocking from 100 to 120Hz. And my question was if 34GK950G with UW5 will overclock without issues from 100Hz to 120Hz or not.

2. i know it will use DP 1.2 GSYNC module, but what we don't know is if this GSYNC module has a max stable Hz set to 100Hz in 3440x1440, or if using UW5 the 120Hz can be a new max stable Hz.

Obviously no one can answer that until the monitor is out there. I will be very surprised if there isn't an improvement though. It's a newer and faster panel. Flickering is very often a result of the panel being pushed too far beyond its native refresh rate. With the UW5 being native 144Hz (vs 100HZ on the UW4), it SHOULD be fine in that regard, but we'll just have to wait and see. If a 144Hz native panel flickers when pushed above 100hz, then they've done something wrong and screwed it up!
 
Obviously no one can answer that until the monitor is out there. I will be very surprised if there isn't an improvement though. It's a newer and faster panel. Flickering is very often a result of the panel being pushed too far beyond its native refresh rate. With the UW5 being native 144Hz (vs 100HZ on the UW4), it SHOULD be fine in that regard, but we'll just have to wait and see. If a 144Hz native panel flickers when pushed above 100hz, then they've done something wrong and screwed it up!

+1. Thanks mate.
 
1. I mean, AW3418DW and X34P, which are using UW4, have many flickering issues when overclocking from 100 to 120Hz. And my question was if 34GK950G with UW5 will overclock without issues from 100Hz to 120Hz or not.

The reason that sentence makes no sense is because the UW5 panel will not be overclocked from 100Hz to 120Hz. It's a native 144Hz panel, running at 120Hz. No overclock. No underclock. Nothing.

2. i know it will use DP 1.2 GSYNC module, but what we don't know is if this GSYNC module has a max stable Hz set to 100Hz in 3440x1440, or if using UW5 the 120Hz can be a new max stable Hz.

The reason that sentence makes no sense is because it implies the panel could improve the performance of the G-SYNC module. That is simply not true. If the controller can provide 3440x1440 @ 120Hz without issues, then it will do so no matter what panel you hook up to it. If the controller can only provide 3440x1440 @ 100Hz, then you can hook up any panel you want... it won't make the controller any more stable or faster.
 
The reason that sentence makes no sense is because the UW5 panel will not be overclocked from 100Hz to 120Hz. It's a native 144Hz panel, running at 120Hz. No overclock. No underclock. Nothing.



The reason that sentence makes no sense is because it implies the panel could improve the performance of the G-SYNC module. That is simply not true. If the controller can provide 3440x1440 @ 120Hz without issues, then it will do so no matter what panel you hook up to it. If the controller can only provide 3440x1440 @ 100Hz, then you can hook up any panel you want... it won't make the controller any more stable or faster.

1. I was referring to GSync module overclock, not the UW panel.

2. I understand you. Simply I don't know if DP 1.2 GSync module can handle 3440x1440 @ 120 stable or only 100. I know the panel supports 144Hz.
 
No new UW monitor from Alienware says the owner of the reddit thread. Sad to hear that.

It is mysterious that they have removed the AW3418DW from the German and UK Amazon. So something seem to be up.

The rep might have just spoken too early about it and had to back track?
 
It is mysterious that they have removed the AW3418DW from the German and UK Amazon. So something seem to be up.

The rep might have just spoken too early about it and had to back track?

I also thought that, but honestly don't have much hope to a new 21:9 release from Alienware. But if they release an AW3418DW update using UW5, that would be amazing.
 
Dell new 21:9 ended up being a lie, and no news on the 34gk950G for a long time now. This is annoying.

Yep. But I still have hope on LG.
Freesync version (34GK950F) shows 144Hz on its info sheet, updated on 17/07/2018.
GSync version (34GK950G) shows 100Hz oced to 120Hz, BUUUUT... last info sheet update was on 15/06/2018.

Remember what @Daniel - LG said on 14th June:

"34GK950G and 34GK950F will use the same panel (LM340UW5) - 950G is limited to 120Hz due to SOC module operating on DP1.2, 950F will use SOC on DP1.4

LM340UW5 + 144Hz G-sync - not yet, we are discussing with Nvidia as there are some issues that I cannot go into (hence 950G being launched at 120Hz)

Also, I believe as the 950G has been switched to LM340UW5 panel, the launch date is pushed out to Sept/Oct not July (so added 8 weeks ish)"

Fingers crossed.
 
Looking at this thread now I feel like i don't want the 34GK950G anymore, I'm thinking if the 34GK950F is 200$ less expensive, and has 144hz then I'll get this one instead the 34GK950G, i don't even know if gsync is that worth once you have 144hz anyway
But what I'm wondering is when this freesync version will be released, it's already hard to find infos on the gsync version
 
Looking at this thread now I feel like i don't want the 34GK950G anymore, I'm thinking if the 34GK950F is 200$ less expensive, and has 144hz then I'll get this one instead the 34GK950G, i don't even know if gsync is that worth once you have 144hz anyway

We are probably a few generations away from video cards running locked @ 144hz for 3440x1440. It would boil down to the traditional question of how much does tearing or vsync (and its fluctuations) bother you.
 
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