LG 34GK950G, 3440x1440, G-Sync, 120Hz

Stu · 2 Jun 2018 at 09:43

Since we are still a couple of months off the launch of the 950G, we have time to research info about the UW5 panel

Biggest challenge right now is resisting the X34P at £799 :eek:

Stu · 4 Jun 2018 at 10:19

@Daniel - LG Lots of speculation on the upcoming UW5 panel... do you have any information that you can share regarding a G-Sync product using this newer panel?

Also, any new information on release date for the 950G? Thanks!

Stu · 4 Jun 2018 at 17:21

I've just been perusing the TFT Central Monitor Panel Part Database, and the LM340UW4-SSA1 panel is listed as Manufacture Year = Q3 2017. This is the panel used in the X34P and the Alienware, which were available from Q4 2017 (i.e. the following quarter)

If the database lists the LM340UW5 panel as being manufacture May 2018, then we should be seeing monitors on shelves this year, if similar timelines apply. The notes state "G-sync, HDR 400", so we are not talking about the 34GK950F.

@Baddass can you please advise us on likely timing based on past experience?

Stu · 12 Jun 2018 at 16:40

Looks like the Freesync model, with the newer UW5 panel, might be available before the G-Sync model...

https://www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/8n896g/lg_34gk950f_listed_in_norway/

Stu · 13 Jun 2018 at 10:39

I haven't seen any reports to indicate that the GSync model will get the UW5 panel, and Daniel has been noticeably absent from the conversation lately.

Many people point to the fact that the GSync module can only use DP1.2 (ignoring the new module in the 4k HDR models) and therefore can't support 1440p at 144Hz, but I'd rather have a 144Hz native panel running at 120Hz than a 100Hz native panel overclocked to 120Hz, which is what we have with the UW4 panel.

This is certainly muddying that waters... get the G-Sync monitor that is overclocked to 120Hz, or get the cheaper FreeSync model that is native 144Hz plus HDR400. (I'm assuming the FS model will be cheaper, as they typically are.)

Stu · 13 Jun 2018 at 13:50

a5cent said:
Yes you have. UW5 with G-SYNC is what TFTCentral reports via their panel database. Either TFTCentral is mistaken, or we will eventually get a UW5 + G-SYNC monitor.

Apparently, for whatever reason, UW5 + G-SYNC just doesn't describe the 34GK950G.

That depends entirely on what you mean with "the G-SYNC model". The upcoming 34GK950G, which this what thread is about, apparently will not.

We essentially have three monitors:

34GK950G = UW4 (allegedly) + G-SYNC, 100/120 Hz, DisplayPort 1.2
34GK950F = UW5 + FreeSync, 144 Hz, DisplayPort 1.4
Unnamed = UW5 + G-SYNC, 144 Hz, DisplayPort 1.4

The unnamed monitor is suspected to be a thing for two reasons:

TFTCentral's mention of it in their panel database

Daniel - LG mentioning the new UW5 panel will first be used for a FreeSync monitor, implying it will be used for something else second.

ChrisPyzut and I both mean the 34GK950G when we say "the Gsync model"... therefore my comments stands that I haven't seen any reports to indicate that the GSync model will get the UW5 panel.

Stu · 13 Jun 2018 at 14:03

Daniel - LG said:
Hi Everyone,

sorry I have been on annual leave - seems like I missed quite a lot!

would someone be able to summarise what I need to find out / report back on and I will see what I can do

thanks
dan

The big frustration is over the 34GK950G getting the UW4 panel, knowing that the UW5 panel is now in production and about to launch within the 34GK950F.

The big questions are (1) when is the 34GK950G currently expected to launch (and what price), and (2) when can expect to see the UW5 panel combined with GSync.

Reports of the the Acer and Dell models with the UW4 panel struggling to hold the 120Hz overclocked frequency, plus the prospect of the 34GK950G being superseded within 6-12 months by the introduction of the UW5 panel (by LG or another company), means that the 34GK950G is looking like a less attractive option every week. The Acer x34P being on sale for £600 this week also adds pressure!

Stu · 13 Jun 2018 at 14:56

a5cent said:
If that's what you meant, then yes, your comment stands... if ChrisPyzut's meant the same thing, then his comment doesn't. It's hard to correctly divine what is meant, as this thread mentions multiple G-SYNC capable monitors.

I don't mean to be an a&&. It would just be easier for everyone reading along if we could stick to the model names (or panel name + features if a name isn't yet known) and introduce less ambivalence.

I made a statement, Chris made a remark (or essentially asked a question, the answer to which appears to be "no, it doesn't"). I don't think it was confusing

Stu · 13 Jun 2018 at 15:13

JediFragger said:
Tbf that seems like a one-off clearance price by the etailer and not a permanent offer.

edit - They may even be clearing the way for a LM340UW5 based Gsync replacement for all we know

£600 for the X34P may be a clearance price at the present time, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar price around Black Friday time... the X34P will be around 1 year old by November, so I am expecting some good discounts; whereas the 34GK950G will only be a couple of months old, so I'll be surprised to see such big discounts... I would love to be wrong though!

Stu · 13 Jun 2018 at 16:49

Daniel - LG said:
Right, email fired to the bods in HQ - i'll be back with an answer soon I hope!

Good man! Please make it clear that the rabble on the OcUK forum are getting impatient and lairy, and will only be satiated by a 34GK950G with a UW5 panel delivered next week for under £600

Stu · 14 Jun 2018 at 16:34

I'm very happy to hear that the 34GK950G will use the UW5 panel! Even paired with DP1.2, as I said before, I would rather have a 144 panel underclocked to 120 than a 100 panel overclocked to 120Hz.

I assume the GSync module will kill any hope of having HDR (even though HDR400 us not likely to be impressive)?

Thanks, Daniel.

Stu · 14 Jun 2018 at 16:43

Personally, I think it would be a bigger disaster releasing this with the UW4 panel 9 months after the Acer and Alienware monitors that use the same panel.

Stu · 14 Jun 2018 at 20:37

I think the flickering that people have reported is due to panels that are overclocked, either 60 to 100Hz or 100 to 120Hz. Using the UW5 panel should mitigate this issue.

Stu · 14 Jun 2018 at 23:03

I wonder if the 34GK950G with a UW5 panel will "overclock" above 120Hz :rolleyes:

Stu · 14 Jun 2018 at 23:33

I wasn't being particularly serious

Stu · 15 Jun 2018 at 10:25

Manne said:
Thanks for all the info. @Stu you should update the first info page to that it has 120Hz native right?

Already did that yesterday

Update - I missed a couple of bits yesterday, so I've just tidied it up further.

Stu · 16 Jun 2018 at 09:42

ChrisPyzut said:
Heard somewhere that Nvidia won't authorize use of their DP1.4 module unless the monitor is HDR10 certified or something like that. Could be why the UM5 won't have DP1.4.

Would be nice if Nvidia could let this one slide and let us have it in the 950G

The new GSync modules with DP1.4 are the ones in the new > £2000 monitors... I'm sure these demand a price premium, and I'm perfectly happy to accept 120Hz right now.

ChrisPyzut said:
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/62226/amd-radeon-rx-680-navi-10-gpu-gddr6-2019/index.html

"Well, the Radeon RX 680 according to my sources will be powered by the Navi GPU architecture and feature 8GB of GDDR6 memory, with the performance of the GTX 1080 to GTX 1080 Ti or so. We should expect a price of somewhere in the $299-$399 range, and will battle the GTX 1080 Ti at higher resolution games because of its faster GDDR6 RAM. I talked to some industry sources over the last few months, and then some new ones at Computex 2018 that told me Navi wouldn't be here until at least half way through 2018."

Just in time for the 950F Lol. Might honestly hold out, though I've had a bad experience with Freesync and my MG279Q.

GTX 1080 performance for less than $400 in 2018, and from AMD... I'll only believe that when I see it!

Stu · 18 Jun 2018 at 10:32

3t3P said:
How's the wait going guys? Alienware lands tomorrow

How is the Alienware?

Stu · 20 Jun 2018 at 17:36

Panos said:
The quote is wrong. Is 2H 2019 not 2H 2018.

So actually, AMD will release Navi in 2H 2019 with the performance of a GTX 1080 that was released in 1H 2016?

I'm not sure that there's much to celebrate here... also, I'm sure Nvidia will have new cards out in 2H 2019 to compete!

Stu · 20 Jun 2018 at 17:41

ChrisPyzut said:
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/62226/amd-radeon-rx-680-navi-10-gpu-gddr6-2019/index.html

"Well, the Radeon RX 680 according to my sources will be powered by the Navi GPU architecture and feature 8GB of GDDR6 memory, with the performance of the GTX 1080 to GTX 1080 Ti or so. We should expect a price of somewhere in the $299-$399 range, and will battle the GTX 1080 Ti at higher resolution games because of its faster GDDR6 RAM. I talked to some industry sources over the last few months, and then some new ones at Computex 2018 that told me Navi wouldn't be here until at least half way through 2018."

Just in time for the 950F Lol. Might honestly hold out, though I've had a bad experience with Freesync and my MG279Q.

Lol, that quote changes complexion if you include the very next sentence!

Well, the Radeon RX 680 according to my sources will be powered by the Navi GPU architecture and feature 8GB of GDDR6 memory, with the performance of the GTX 1080 to GTX 1080 Ti or so. We should expect a price of somewhere in the $299-$399 range, and will battle the GTX 1080 Ti at higher resolution games because of its faster GDDR6 RAM. I talked to some industry sources over the last few months, and then some new ones at Computex 2018 that told me Navi wouldn't be here until at least half way through 2018. Another source said that it would not be that great, in the way that it will not be a successor to Radeon RX Vega at first, but rather the Radeon RX 680 powered by Navi 10.