LG 34GK950G, 3440x1440, G-Sync, 120Hz
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@Daniel - LG
There three potential prices to discuss here... original MSRP, real MSRP and street price?
Looking at the direct competition...
Dell Alienware AW3418DW has an original price listing of £1470 on their website, but I've not known Dell to actually list it above £1100 on their website, and this is the typical non-sale price elsewhere, therefore I consider the real MSRP to be £1100. As for street price, I don't know anyone that has paid more than £1000, and a number of people on this forum that have paid less than £900, often with a 5 year, warranty after haggling with Dell.
Acer X34P has a MSRP of £999 now; also, a warranty extension to 4 years costs £30. However, it only takes a small amount of patience to find this model on offer, with a one-day sale price of £599 being the lowest price last month, and then £699 on a one-day sale price earlier this week. The X34P often appears elsewhere for £799 - £849.
You might argue that these models are not straight-up direct competitors, as the LG is native 144Hz and offers nano-IPS; however, all three monitors will run at 120Hz, and the general feeling is that >100% sRGB has no benefit for gamers (which is your target market).
The AOC AG352UCG6 is arguably a dark horse in this discussion, although it is 35" and a VA panel, its MSRP of £749 certainly warrants consideration by shoppers.
Taking all this into consideration, an MSRP of £1100 seems reasonable on paper, but there is no way I'm going to pay that much! Your main competition for sales is surely the Acer X34P because of the aggressive pricing right now (I think this has put LG in a REALLY difficult position), and the closer the 950G launch date gets to November and Black Friday, the higher the chance of people holding out for a deal, and I expect to see the Acer X34P for £699 or less between now and then. If the 950G turns out to be superior to the X34P, then my personal target purchase price is maximum £900 (ideally closer to £800), and if not clearly superior to the X34P then street price needs to be comparable to the Acer. Preferably, you should follow the sagely advice of @Daftbrown and send me one in exchange for a not-very-technical review!
Though convoluted, I hope that I've given a thoughtful response. I think the key question might not be what the formal MSRP will be, but rather what sale price will you offer to the OcUK forum faithful. Sale prices of the Acer X34P must be giving you a real headache!
There three potential prices to discuss here... original MSRP, real MSRP and street price?
Looking at the direct competition...
Dell Alienware AW3418DW has an original price listing of £1470 on their website, but I've not known Dell to actually list it above £1100 on their website, and this is the typical non-sale price elsewhere, therefore I consider the real MSRP to be £1100. As for street price, I don't know anyone that has paid more than £1000, and a number of people on this forum that have paid less than £900, often with a 5 year, warranty after haggling with Dell.
Acer X34P has a MSRP of £999 now; also, a warranty extension to 4 years costs £30. However, it only takes a small amount of patience to find this model on offer, with a one-day sale price of £599 being the lowest price last month, and then £699 on a one-day sale price earlier this week. The X34P often appears elsewhere for £799 - £849.
You might argue that these models are not straight-up direct competitors, as the LG is native 144Hz and offers nano-IPS; however, all three monitors will run at 120Hz, and the general feeling is that >100% sRGB has no benefit for gamers (which is your target market).
The AOC AG352UCG6 is arguably a dark horse in this discussion, although it is 35" and a VA panel, its MSRP of £749 certainly warrants consideration by shoppers.
Taking all this into consideration, an MSRP of £1100 seems reasonable on paper, but there is no way I'm going to pay that much! Your main competition for sales is surely the Acer X34P because of the aggressive pricing right now (I think this has put LG in a REALLY difficult position), and the closer the 950G launch date gets to November and Black Friday, the higher the chance of people holding out for a deal, and I expect to see the Acer X34P for £699 or less between now and then. If the 950G turns out to be superior to the X34P, then my personal target purchase price is maximum £900 (ideally closer to £800), and if not clearly superior to the X34P then street price needs to be comparable to the Acer. Preferably, you should follow the sagely advice of @Daftbrown and send me one in exchange for a not-very-technical review!
Though convoluted, I hope that I've given a thoughtful response. I think the key question might not be what the formal MSRP will be, but rather what sale price will you offer to the OcUK forum faithful. Sale prices of the Acer X34P must be giving you a real headache!
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Actually £599.99 last month.
The FALD monitors are going to be in a different price bracket completely (at least, they should be), so I don't see the LG 950G competing with them as well.
@Daniel - LG is there any more news on release date, please? A month ago you shared Sept/Oct... Can you even narrow it down tighter than a 9 week window?
With Dell now dropping their price further, my concern is growing over the 950G becoming a tough sell at launch despite the better panel.
With Dell now dropping their price further, my concern is growing over the 950G becoming a tough sell at launch despite the better panel.
At Cebit last month the chap on the LG stand was saying that the 34G950G would be 1400 euro (at 1 min 22s in the video below)... we really appreciate your input on pricing, but is this a foregone conclusion? That said, official MSRP and actual sale price can be quite different, with both Dell and Acer now selling at £300 below MSRP.
I totally get it, and I'm genuinely wavering with the Dell dropping to £799...
Is there any news on launch date? The Acer and Dell models are getting cheaper each month right now... establishing a price now may not be competitive for a Sept launch.
You won't be able to max out new AAA titles, but it should be good with Gsync smoothing things out. I also have a 1070 and am looking at this spec monitor.
The X34P is generally cheaper than the Dell over the past 2 months.
Loving that this LG thread is getting Dell some business
Feel for you... you've got to be in it to win it... get the 950G launched (or even pre-release samples to reviewers) and the tide may turn.
If it's any consolation, I'm still holding out
This will be the first UW with Freesync 2 HDR, but the Samsung CHG70 monitors already offer Freesync 2 HDR in a 16:9 monitor.
I do wonder if the 950G might overclock past 120Hz using a custom monitor profile in the Nvidia settings in Windows, especially if you drop the chroma to manipulate the bandwidth. That said, I'm not convinced there is much real gain going from 120 to 144Hz.
Also, since the jump from 120 to 144Hz is likely minimal, and HDR600 is likely to be underwhelming (especially without FALD), I'm happy to take the older GSync module and save several hundred pounds on the basis that the new GSync module is a $500 part.
I do wonder if the 950G might overclock past 120Hz using a custom monitor profile in the Nvidia settings in Windows, especially if you drop the chroma to manipulate the bandwidth. That said, I'm not convinced there is much real gain going from 120 to 144Hz.
Also, since the jump from 120 to 144Hz is likely minimal, and HDR600 is likely to be underwhelming (especially without FALD), I'm happy to take the older GSync module and save several hundred pounds on the basis that the new GSync module is a $500 part.
Yes, the Gsync version is native (according to Dan the LG rep). The panel is actually 144Hz native, but is restricted to 120Hz due to limitations of DP1.2.
The information sheet in the reddit post has a date of 15 June 2018 in the footnote, so it would have been printed before that date. Daniel posted here on 14 June that the newer panel would be used, that is native 144Hz... very likely that the information sheet was finalised before the change in panel was finalised.
I would say that this thread is the best source of information on this monitor, thanks to input from @Daniel - LG
This pricing is not good, and won't sell units in the UK versus the Alienware and X34P. This sort of news is breaking my resolve, as I can get the Dell for £640 with NHS discount and the current sale (which ends tomorrow).
@Daniel - LG can you give us any news on expected pricing, as you have been looking into this lately.
I don't think you'll notice a huge difference between 120 and 144Hz, and unless you can hold over 144 FPS constantly (which I doubt a 1080Ti can with all new games) then you will be better off with Gsync.
Worked with LG marketing before, crazy Koreans with quite a bit of centralised control basically
Anyone have links to good comparisons between these newer panels and my current Dell S2716DG? Thinking about new screens, potentially 4K also...
Everything we know is in the thread, and summarised in the first post. It is also worth looking at TFT Central if you want info on other panels.
This monitor has had a nightmare journey and still hasn't made it to market yet! I trust Daniel when he says that the panel will be the new UW5, but that begs the question why the marketing and website show 120Hz overclocked; and if it still uses the UW4 then it is about 9 months late to market!
The new Gsync module is too expensive for this model... given the price of the new Gsync module, I would expect higher than 144Hz, which is the limit of the UW5 panel.
The new Gsync module is too expensive for this model... given the price of the new Gsync module, I would expect higher than 144Hz, which is the limit of the UW5 panel.
I think this is trash. The Acer and Alienware hold a solid 120Hz over DP1.2, so the bandwidth is there. The bandwidth is there at 120Hz, but not 144Hz, which is why the UW5 panel would be run at 120Hz despite being capable of 144Hz. The Freesync model will use DP1.4, and will therefore run at 144Hz.