LG 34GK950G, 3440x1440, G-Sync, 120Hz

[belcebuu]

So it seems this is the only monitor that is going to be "affordable" from the new ones? I mean non HDR.

Can we expect this monitor to be better than the X34P or the Dell Alienware?

 

[Notional]

The Freesync version will be 144hz. The Gsync will be 100hz (120OC). At a measly 400nits, this will be a DisplayHDR400 monitor, which is very disappointing.

 

[xrodney]

So it seems this is the only monitor that is going to be "affordable" from the new ones? I mean non HDR.

Can we expect this monitor to be better than the X34P or the Dell Alienware?

Looks like Probably same panel with added nano cell layer to extend colours to wide gamut and stronger backlight. We will have to wait to get full spec to be sure.

 

[ChrisPyzut]

Can someone explain to me why the panel is 100 native, with 120oc.

What is preventing it from being 120 native?
what are potential issues when OCing the monitor? loss in visual fidelity?
what determines if I can hit 120oc and not have issues

 

[nox_uk]

I think it's going to be pretty much the same as the Alienware or Acer, but will look a lot less 'gamely' (which is why I'm waiting) Alienware seems way more expensive than the Acer too.

 

[Stu]

From the Alienware thread:

Acer X34P has hit £799 if you guys are looking for a possible alternative. Unsure how long for (shame OcUK don't stock this model, I think they'd fly out!!).

With an expected RRP of £1099, this new LG is going to land in a tough market if the price doesn't quickly drop to compete with Acer and Alienware.

 

[Stu]

Double post

 

[JediFragger]

With an expected RRP of £1099, this new LG is going to land in a tough market if the price doesn't quickly drop to compete with Acer and Alienware.

Tbh LG tend to start out high to get the early adopters and work their way down, so it wouldn't surprise me if they started off at £1049/1099.

 

[Stu]

Any chance of this coming in at £1000?

i will do my best to get it to £1000 all in, but I think it might be a bridge too far

@Daniel - LG
£1000 to £1100 seemed reasonable back in January, but 4 months on and this doesn't compare well versus competitor prices, and we are still waiting for the 950G to launch... The Acer might be available for £700 by Black Friday.

Daniel, can you please give an update on expected launch date and price?

 

[xrodney]

Can someone explain to me why the panel is 100 native, with 120oc.

What is preventing it from being 120 native?
what are potential issues when OCing the monitor? loss in visual fidelity?
what determines if I can hit 120oc and not have issues

Check for frame skipping test like : https://www.testufo.com/frameskipping
If you get no frames dropped you are fine, otherwise have to try lower refresh rate untill you get no frames dropped.

 

[a5cent]

At a measly 400nits, this will be a DisplayHDR400 monitor, which is very disappointing.

If it's true that the 34GK950G uses nVidia's outdated DP1.2 based g-sync module, then it WILL NOT have a DisplayHDR 400 rating. VESA mandates that all DisplayHDR monitors can process a HDR10 signal, but that necessitates DP1.4!

£1000 to £1100 seemed reasonable back in January, but 4 months on and this doesn't compare well versus competitor prices, and we are still waiting for the 950G to launch... The Acer might be available for £700 by Black Friday.

The more I read about this monitor the less sense it makes for a July 2018 release.

• Allegedly uses a modified LM340UW4-SSA1 panel (can't reach 144 Hz, can't support HDR). Why? It's successor, the LM340UW5 is in production NOW (and in tftcentral's panel database it's listed as sporting g-sync ?incorrect?).
• Allegedly uses nVidia's outdated DP1.2 based g-sync module (no HDR, limited to 116 Hz, no HDCP 2.1). Why? The DP1.4 HDR based g-sync module is available NOW.

If the 34GK950G is what it's alleged to be here, then it should have been released in 2017, not Q3 2018. At the specified price, I'm not sure who this is for.

 

[ChrisD.]

What would the X34 be like compared to my LG 34UC97-P (3-4 years old)? I would gain 40 hz minimum and G Sync. Would it be worth the cost of an upgrade?

 

[JediFragger]

What would the X34 be like compared to my LG 34UC97-P (3-4 years old)? I would gain 40 hz minimum and G Sync. Would it be worth the cost of an upgrade?

What would you get for your old LG, £200ish? Only you can answer if it'll be worth the extra £600 imo.

 

[ChrisD.]

What would you get for your old LG, £200ish? Only you can answer if it'll be worth the extra £600 imo.

Hmm, I was hoping for a bit more than £200 lol, I paid close to £900 for it from memory. I may just keep it and hope G Sync and HDR comes soon and isn't eye watering expensive.

 

[ChrisD.]

Double post.

 

[Notional]

If it's true that the 34GK950G uses nVidia's outdated DP1.2 based g-sync module, then it WILL NOT have a DisplayHDR 400 rating. VESA mandates that all DisplayHDR monitors can process a HDR10 signal, but that necessitates DP1.4!

The more I read about this monitor the less sense it makes for a July 2018 release.

• Allegedly uses a modified LM340UW4-SSA1 panel (can't reach 144 Hz, can't support HDR). Why? It's successor, the LM340UW5 is in production NOW (and in tftcentral's panel database it's listed as sporting g-sync ?incorrect?).
• Allegedly uses nVidia's outdated DP1.2 based g-sync module (no HDR, limited to 116 Hz, no HDCP 2.1). Why? The DP1.4 HDR based g-sync module is available NOW.

If the 34GK950G is what it's alleged to be here, then it should have been released in 2017, not Q3 2018. At the specified price, I'm not sure who this is for.

I absolutely believe the Gsync version will use the old module, because it's limited to 120hz overclocked. But the Freesync version (34GK950F) is 144hz natively. So it needs DP 1.3/1.4. As such, it has to be a panel that can handle it, and as such, it will be DisplayHDR400. That is still disappoiting though. I believe max HDR output is 550 nits. If that is the case, they just needed 50 more nits to reach DisplayHDR600. That is silly.

Worst part is that the 38" 2018 model is just the exact same panel as the older 30", yet the price is much higher for no reason. I believe these 950 monitors wil be very expensive for no reason. With most tv's using HDMI 2.1 next year, we will see most tv's have low input latency, high frame rate (100/120hz) and freesync. Better HDR and either same or lower price for a larger 4K screen. Gaming monitors with HDR are so overpriced they don't make sense anymore. Those new 27" 4K HDR monitors costs the same as an HDR HFR 65" OLED tv. What a joke.

 

[a5cent]

There are four things I want from my next monitor:

• Ultrawide 34" - 38", 3440x1440 - 3840x1600
  
• g-sync
• preferrably DisplayHDR 1000. Will settle for 600 or if push comes to shove, even 400
• preferably an LG IPS panel (the best panels I've experienced so far)

That's why I was looking at the 34GK950G. I'd be fine with the 100/120 Hz refresh rate. Without HDR I'm out though.

As far as I can tell, LG has absolutely nothing in their monitor-pipeline for me.

The LM340UW5 panel sounds good, but according to Daniel - LG is likely only a FreeSync affair. The only other panel that looks like it may be for me is the LM375QW2 (37.5", 98% DCI-P3, 3840x1600, DisplayHDR 1000, 144Hz, still at least seven months out). The LM375QW2 sounds amazing, but no word on g-sync support. It doesn't look like I have any IPS options.

 

[NirK]

I agree that unless you need a monitor at the time this is released, you would be much better waiting for the 144hz version. Also I would pretty much ignore HDR for these monitors, the only monitors that can do HDR properly are the 27" and 35" FALD screens coming out. Trust me that HDR will look useless on IPS monitor without FALD backlight.

 

[a5cent]

Trust me that HDR will look useless on IPS monitor without FALD backlight.

Exactly what I suspect as well.

IPS and FALD sounds to me like a match made in heaven, as it could theoretically circumvent one of IPS' biggest problems (black levels/contrast) while maintaining all of IPS' benefits over VA.

it [LM340UW5 panel] will be DisplayHDR 400. That is still disappointing though. I believe max HDR output is 550 nits. If that is the case, they just needed 50 more nits to reach DisplayHDR600. That is silly.

I'm not sure it's silly. DisplayHDR 600 isn't solely about peak luminance. I suspect IPS panels simply can't deliver the 600 nits at the screen's center while blocking out enough light to reach down to 0.1 nits at the corners as DisplayHDR 600 requires. I suspect that is why many HDR panels favor VA. The LM340UW5 is a Nano IPS panel, so maxing out at 550 nits is likely how LG balances peak luminance with a desire to still achieve somewhat decent black levels. I suspect that with current IPS technology and without FALD, physics isn't allowing us to have both.

I'm completely with you on price though. The 38WK95C does seem like a bad joke at that price. Next year's 37.5" (LM375QW2 panel) looks great however. If that comes with FALD (which I think it must) and g-sync I would sell a kidney for it. As I do want IPS and HDR it's currently looking like that may be the only option I have left

 

[JediFragger]

LM375QW2

Now *that* sounds pretty damn epic! @Daniel - LG make sure that LG make a Gsync version and you'll sell loads, there's a good lad