LG 34GK950G, 3440x1440, G-Sync, 120Hz
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I spoke to Inet (Swedish retailer) and they will get stock in December.
Oh cool thank you. I am still waiting for a really friendly guy there to get back to me.
Releasing it in December is a bit awkward. I think it's gonna be too tempting not to buy a DW or X34P on Black Friday. I am guessing they will go down to say €900. And Inet is a great store but usually not the cheapest so I am guessing they will price it around €1300-1400.
If the reviews and feedback from buyers is overwhelmingly good it could change my mind.
Thank you again for the info.
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Yeah same. I'll probably just end up getting an Alienware for like $800 or whatever on black friday, unless the 950G's appear in the wild at a reasonable price by then.
The real question is what I get first, a new monitor or the 9900K I preordered on 10/8 the morning it went on sale. Who knows if that will even ship before black friday.
The real question is what I get first, a new monitor or the 9900K I preordered on 10/8 the morning it went on sale. Who knows if that will even ship before black friday.
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Working on that G revie
What i actually said was that i hadn't deliberately captured a photo from both the left and right hand side views of the screen, as i had no real reason to do so or to believe they would show any difference. When i capture the photos from an angle on a black screen in a dark room, i always take them from the left hand side, out of habit and to also keep consistency between reviews. I had no reason to take one from the right, but was more than happy to go back and do so after your experiences and observations.
To confirm, there IS a difference on my F and G samples between the level of glow and colour of that glow when viewing dark content from the left hand side (lower than most IPS ultrawide screens i've tested) and the right hand side (more comparable, perhaps a little worse than some other IPS ultrawide screens i've tested).
However, in normal day to day use, in typical day time ambient lighting conditions and with general uses i cannot see anything like the same level of glow that krzychowiec has reported and captured in photos like this:
(krzychowiec's picture, NOT one of mine)
There is noticeable glow if you're viewing dark content from an angle, particularly from the right hand side of the screen. This will be accentuated if you are using the screen in darker room conditions, or if you're running the backlight at higher brightness settings. From a head on viewing position and normal day to day usage i cannot see any major glow like that being reported. I've been using the screen for several weeks and would have of course commented on it in the review had i seen something like that and felt it was a major problem.
At the end of the day, the level of glow on this UW5 panel is pretty comparable over all to most IPS screens out there. Some will be better, some will be worse. I've not tested the UC98 but that looks like it's a lower glow IPS panel.
Whether or not this viewing angle related glow is going to bother you i think really depends on the type of content you're going to be viewing. If it's a lot of dark content, in dark room conditions and especially from any off-centre angle for whatever reason then IPS in general could present you some problems. A VA panel may be better in those circumstances. The new UW5 panel doesn't seem to bring any major changes or improvements over other IPS ultrawide screens on the most part in terms of this glow and viewing angles. If you're viewing the screen from head on, in normal lighting conditions, using more general content (less dark content) and at normal brightness levels i don't think you will see any major problems. If it's something you're sensitive too or have found annoying in the past then i don't think you should expect any magic from the 950 models in this area. There will be plenty of IPS users and those who aren't as sensitive to it who will be perfectly happy with the screen, just like they would on other IPS screens.
One final note is that due to the size and very large horizontal format, you might see a little more glow in the corners and on the edges if you are sat centrally and glance towards the edges of the screen. Again this is only really going to be noticeable on darker content, but because you have a wider angle of view from the centre position, there is more chance of seeing it than on a small, narrower IPS screen. This will be impacted by your viewing position and distance as well, but that is the point i referenced in the review about glow being perhaps a little more problematic on an ultrawide like this. The curve helps reduce this a bit compared with a flat ultrawide though by reducing that angle of view.
The G sample i have was manufactured Feb 2018, while the F model was manuf April 2018 for those asking.
What i actually said was that i hadn't deliberately captured a photo from both the left and right hand side views of the screen, as i had no real reason to do so or to believe they would show any difference. When i capture the photos from an angle on a black screen in a dark room, i always take them from the left hand side, out of habit and to also keep consistency between reviews. I had no reason to take one from the right, but was more than happy to go back and do so after your experiences and observations.
To confirm, there IS a difference on my F and G samples between the level of glow and colour of that glow when viewing dark content from the left hand side (lower than most IPS ultrawide screens i've tested) and the right hand side (more comparable, perhaps a little worse than some other IPS ultrawide screens i've tested).
However, in normal day to day use, in typical day time ambient lighting conditions and with general uses i cannot see anything like the same level of glow that krzychowiec has reported and captured in photos like this:
(krzychowiec's picture, NOT one of mine)
There is noticeable glow if you're viewing dark content from an angle, particularly from the right hand side of the screen. This will be accentuated if you are using the screen in darker room conditions, or if you're running the backlight at higher brightness settings. From a head on viewing position and normal day to day usage i cannot see any major glow like that being reported. I've been using the screen for several weeks and would have of course commented on it in the review had i seen something like that and felt it was a major problem.
At the end of the day, the level of glow on this UW5 panel is pretty comparable over all to most IPS screens out there. Some will be better, some will be worse. I've not tested the UC98 but that looks like it's a lower glow IPS panel.
Whether or not this viewing angle related glow is going to bother you i think really depends on the type of content you're going to be viewing. If it's a lot of dark content, in dark room conditions and especially from any off-centre angle for whatever reason then IPS in general could present you some problems. A VA panel may be better in those circumstances. The new UW5 panel doesn't seem to bring any major changes or improvements over other IPS ultrawide screens on the most part in terms of this glow and viewing angles. If you're viewing the screen from head on, in normal lighting conditions, using more general content (less dark content) and at normal brightness levels i don't think you will see any major problems. If it's something you're sensitive too or have found annoying in the past then i don't think you should expect any magic from the 950 models in this area. There will be plenty of IPS users and those who aren't as sensitive to it who will be perfectly happy with the screen, just like they would on other IPS screens.
One final note is that due to the size and very large horizontal format, you might see a little more glow in the corners and on the edges if you are sat centrally and glance towards the edges of the screen. Again this is only really going to be noticeable on darker content, but because you have a wider angle of view from the centre position, there is more chance of seeing it than on a small, narrower IPS screen. This will be impacted by your viewing position and distance as well, but that is the point i referenced in the review about glow being perhaps a little more problematic on an ultrawide like this. The curve helps reduce this a bit compared with a flat ultrawide though by reducing that angle of view.
The G sample i have was manufactured Feb 2018, while the F model was manuf April 2018 for those asking.
After looking at my very old 30" IPS screen the same way (side angles) I also see the weird glow as reported here. It is my conclusion that the glow is normal IPS glow and not backlight bleed. Backlight bleed would be mainly visible straight from the front, but in the images and video it is not.
OMG, so your G unit is 4 months older than the retail one of krzychowiec.
IPS glow aside, they have been manufacturing these from at least February? And they are still not in shops yet? I must really over estimate how quickly i thought they coukd put these together and ship them out.
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Was just going to say the same thing, probably part of the production risk trial.
But the krzychowiec unit is from June 2018. It's also 4 months since he bought it. Is this normal? I was expecting at least August.
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Sweden can sometimes be behind with availability from what I heard. I remember one Swedish guy contemplating for over a month on whether he should order his UC98 from UK because it was easily available in countries like UK, Germany or Poland, but was nowhere to be found in Sweden
Day time ambient lighting is not an environment to test anything because it is hiding almost all flaws. For example 3000:1-5000:1 VA TVs that still have very poor dark room performance are looking like if they had almost a perfect black when placed in a bright living room.
I would agree with this argument if we were talking about productivity/work oriented display that is often used in bright environment and is not displaying any dark or picture quality critical content (by this I mean a need for contrast, black uniformity and etc), basically working with programs on bright backgrounds like excel or web browsing, the only thing you need there is a natural picture comfortable for the eyes and sharp fonts, so any IPS in the world really. But here we are talking about the display that is meant exactly for picture quality critical tasks, gaming or watching movies, which are often used in dark or at least darkened environment and simply need much better all around performance from the display.
Day time performance argument generally sounds like something that a poor manufacturer or retailer would use to avoid accepting an RMA or a return. Imagine telling them that you are experiencing very significant glow in dark environment, and they would reply that they don't see any glow when placing a display on a beach in the middle of sunny day. "I don't see a flaw after intentionally manipulating the environment to hide it". This is how much value the daytime argument has.
It is normal. For example I got my UC98 in March 2016 and it has December 2015 manufacture date. And it is not worse than younger UC98s, like some people really want to believe with 950G.
A lot of people hope that my retail unit is somehow drastically worse than what they will get because it supposedly has early manufacture date, but it looks like it turns out to be quite the opposite. If the actually early units, like the ones you got for review, were in fact manufactured before mass production started, and they were manufactured for internal use, show and review purposes then you can suspect that they were manufactured much more carefully, and if not then they most certainly got through way more QC and selection. All of this before starting to cut corners with mass production.
So if you ask yourself a question what is more representative of what you get from actual market, pre-production units manufactured early before mass production and specifically for the purpose of internal use, shows and reviews, or actual retail unit manufactured during mass production, the answer doesn't seem very hard.
Thats of course only a speculation, based on no actual data or information, so it may just be a bs.
Again, ignoring the direct comparisons I have posted. The glow for IPS is normal, but this amount of glow is certainly not normal. It is in line with the worst glow panels.
Also the pictures are not taken from any extreme angle or anything like this. I am just sitting a bit further away than normally to put the camera at my normal viewing distance, putting camera before my eyes and just looking left or right. What you see on the pictures is what you see during gaming from normal viewing position. There are also pictures for front viewing posted, and also a picture from 1.5 meters away to check the bleed which is small on unit. So what you are seeing on the pictures is mostl certainly glow and this is how it really looks, I have an LG V30 which has a good camera a quite a lot adjustments in manual mode so I took my time to make sure it is showing actual state of things and not some major overexposition. I am repeating myself like 5th time but what can you do...
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the viewing angle behaviour is exactly the same between the F and G models as in the glow is less from the left hand side than the right hand side. I still personally don't feel that it creates any problems in normal usage but some people may find the IPS glow problematic and might be better with a VA panel or perhaps a model which has a general lower level of glow (there are a few IPS screens with lower glow panels out there)
950G review now completed and online: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/lg_34gk950g.htm
Nice, thanks
thats G-sync modules for youLag is so much better here