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LG 38GL950G - 3840x1600/G-Sync/144Hz

Discussion in 'Monitors' started by Legend, Dec 19, 2018.

  1. Baddass

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    You know the PG35VQ and X35 use AU Optronics panels right? :)
     
  2. ToxicTaZ

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    LG OLED has the best colors because of True Black and each pixel self controlled. Where VA/QLED and TN IPS are all using old backlit technology which gives a bit of a glow, IPS has the worst glowing blacks....IPS colours are not as good as VA panels ....

    Go look at the ROG SWIFT PG35VQ colour quality VS UltraGear 38GL950G-B. . . Are the best between the two displays technology's in this 21:9 format. Not saying LG Nano IPS is bad, definitely Nano IPS the best that IPS technology gets at the moment...MicroLED will replace VA IPS TN very soon and a direct competition to OLED tech.
     
  3. Baddass

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    MicroLED is a backlighting technology and will still be paired with traditional LCD panel technologies like IPS and VA so the fundamental panel performance characteristics will remain similar. It’s a long long way off though, we have barely had any FALD backlights so far and are just starting to see the first MiniLED backlights now
     
  4. ToxicTaZ

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    Not really
    MicroLED is different. ..
    "Using extremely small LEDs, three MicroLEDs are put together to create each pixel, with each subpixel emitting a different color from the usual red, blue, and green selection. As each LED emits light, there is no need for a backlight as used in TFT screens."

    No FALD required for MicroLED or OLED technology is my understanding?

    Having more Zones on FALD displays gives a better brightness but on a monitor your mouse cursor area glows bad. You would need 4096 Zones to fix that glow.... Right now PC Gaming monitors are 512 Zones.
     
  5. spoffle

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    All those large format displays you see at the cinema and airport lobbies are using primitive MicroLED technology, and they're definitely not using any LCD technology in them. They are all using self emissive pixels. That's the whole gist of the technology, to leapfrog OLED.
     
  6. Baddass

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    Sorry yes you’re quite right, I’m getting my micros and my minis muddled up on a Saturday evening :) still, they are a long long way off being used in desktop monitors, like I said mini LED is still very new. That’s the one I meant was paired with current LCD panel spec
     
  7. SQHQ

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    any news about this panel LM375QW2 without g-sync cause acer one is the same and i don't plan to pay that 500$ premium and i like the size and aspect ratio on this.
     
  8. ToxicTaZ

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    You mean the LG UltraGear 27GL850-B

    It's cut down udder garbage!
     
  9. SQHQ

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    LM375QW2 is the panel used for lg 38gl950g and acer x38p , im just asking if there are any rumors of any freesync ones coming up.
     
  10. spoffle

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    You're milking it a bit there.
     
  11. muSashisf

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    Yes, it will be out, sometime during 2020 according to LGs represent on this forum.
     
  12. ToxicTaZ

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    The other two problems with the LG UltraGear 38GL950G-B monitor are ..

    Negative
    3840x1600 is 4:2:2 (8-bit + FRC)

    8-bit + FRC is fake HDR

    8-bit + FRC can simulate HDR10 content

    Real HDR is 10-bit and future 12-bit HDR

    38GL950G-B can only run 4:4:4 @120Hz @negative 3840x1600 resolutions. ..

    Technically Real HDR is entry level HDR 500 and not HDR 400 as there's confusion about 8-bit + FRC
     
  13. Greebo

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    Lol in maybe 10-20 years time IF they can make the LED's small enough. The prototype large MircroLED screen they showed after 7 years development uses LEDs that are 1mm thick. They are currently struggling to get them small enough to make a 75" screen which will need LEDs that are only 0.15mm thick.

    In order to make a sensible desktop monitor of around 32" - 40" size they will need to make the microLEDs as small as 0.02mm thick. I am not saying that at some point in the future that we wont get LED's that small but its a hard ask and the chances are Microled will just become limited to large TVs/monitors only of around 65" maybe 55" max. Thats fine for people to have as TVs or big gaming screens in their lounge.
     
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  14. Greebo

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    No there will always be a specialised market for people who want or need to game at 240Hz. That is a very small market atm. They can have the IPS screens.

    120hz now and then hopefully 144Hz OLED screens would more than satisfy 99% of all monitor buyers.

    But my point was and I still stand by it, there should be a plethora of OLED 120Hz gaming monitors out by now and then a few manufacturers could concentrate on lessor res high frequency screens for the more serious fps gamer.
     
  15. SQHQ

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    Competitive gaming will always be around high refresh rate, low input lag and low motion blur monitors, its speed first image quality second. Main disadvantage is you need to have both cpu and gpu top notch where high res 3k+ gaming cpu matters less and your GPU bound.
     
  16. muSashisf

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    LG just revealed their setup for 2020!

    http://www.lgnewsroom.com/2019/12/lg-2020-ultra-monitors-ideal-for-professionals-and-gamers-alike/

    38WN95C will probably be the one that most people in this thread is interested in!

    Really nice it got Thunderbolt 3 connectivity, I really hope we will be able to get higher bandwith with the new upcoming Nvidia cards, than DP 1.4 that we are currently stuck with.

    Hopefully that is enough to run this beast of a monitor at 144 hz 10 bit color and HDR600.
     
  17. Legend

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    Lol, so before the 38GL950G is even available, they announce its successor... genius :rolleyes:. That said, it baffles me why they are announcing it now, when typical monitor delays dictate that it won't be available until 2022 anyway.
     
  18. WhiteSkyMage

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    SHAME. I expected at least a high-end monitor with true 10-bit 5120x2160p 144hz HDR1000 + G Sync Ulti, now that AMD can also use GSync Modules. Just crank up that quality to the max!
    Or is the cable bandwidth not enough? I would go and buy a FiberOptic DP1.4 connector! Is LG holding back on pushing HDR on ultrawides to the market? Guess I will be staying with my 3840x1600 75Hz for another year. Hopefully someone else goes ahead to makes a true HDR panel.
     
  19. Greebo

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    Disappointing especially if they are announced for 2020 probably means most of them you wont be able to buy until early 2021.

    I wish the time between them being announced and actually able to buy them was shorter.
     
  20. Baddass

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