I imagine you'd get bent over a barrel by publishers for even trying that.
Like trying to stock a block busters with retail tapes/disks.
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I imagine you'd get bent over a barrel by publishers for even trying that.
Like trying to stock a block busters with retail tapes/disks.
Indeed. Library books are very expensive. The replacement price if someone loses or nicks one is substantial.
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I'm sure some Saudi funded Muslim groups will buy all of our libraries and fill them with Korans.
Can I point out one thing.
Free internet access at a lot of libraries.
This is useful for children, study groups and of course perhaps the unemployed who could make use of the services. This obviously has a cost met by local government.
Can anyone tell me how that could be factored into a charity model?
Does anyone know the IT costs for a library by chance?
Free internet access at a lot of libraries.
This is useful for children, study groups and of course perhaps the unemployed who could make use of the services. This obviously has a cost met by local government.
Can anyone tell me how that could be factored into a charity model?
Does anyone know the IT costs for a library by chance?
I love libraries, always have. Love the ambiance of them. Love just being surrounded by books in them. Spent most of my childhood and teen years in them. Did my 'Work Experience' in one and even took a Saturday job in one.
My dream job right now would be as a Head Librarian.
Are they really necessary today? Not really.
My dream job right now would be as a Head Librarian.
Are they really necessary today? Not really.
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I do not want authoritarian socialism, and nobody does - pretty much for one reason: it doesn't exist. An authoritarian state can only ever be Socialism in name alone. It's also not your place to tell me what i want, what i want is a Socialist Democracy where the power lies in the hands of the people and not in a few individuals. Elected representatives very rarely represent the people, and never take the best option for the people.
'Stolen from the private sector'? That's simply progress, is it not?
Are you an Anarchist, Dolph?
Free internet access is also provided by McDonalds, Starbucks and various other corporations, as well as at least one scout group that I can think of.
It isn't impossible by any means.
You keep saying things like this, but it is you who is in denial. People cannot have freedom without a free economy.
No, not at all. It was a massive retrograde step, as shown by the consistent failure of nationalised industry to compete or succeed.
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Free wifi maybe, i've never seen anywhere else you can access the internet for free without having payed a considerable amount for the people in question.
That just suggests you haven't been looking hard enough.
Strangely, the scout group in question exists in a large village/small town (depending on who you ask) without a public library, perhaps that shows just how much the state stifles innovation.
There's a free internet place (including computers not just wifi access)for that kind of thing + for older people to learn on connected to the CAB here.
Bit of a ball ache if you don't have a wifi capable laptop though.
Starbucks may take issue with you setting up an old desktop in the corner and asking to plug in.
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Of course they can. I suggest you read up on 'surplus value'. Any 'free market economy' is going to destroy itself sooner or later, and exploit people to get more wealth in the hands of the few. That's not what i call freedom.
http://prahalathan.blogspot.com/2006/01/great-money-trick.html
I've linked you to that before and i'll do it again, as many times as is necessary for you to understand the implications of it.
Where has nationalized industry failed to succeed in providing a decent service for the people? The point isn't to compete, it's to get what's best for the consumer. The only 'consistent failure' is that of the private sector to act in the best interests of the people.
A lot of what you say is roughly along the same lines. You think the state is too authoritarian, you want freedom and a better quality of living for as many people as possible. You're simply misguided in how you think that's going to come about.
Although this is a good thread you get dolph arguing an inhuman amount of change to a pure capitalist world and super the same but socialist.
Both require humans to change the way they have acted radically and become pretty selfless so are ****ed from the get go.
Both require humans to change the way they have acted radically and become pretty selfless so are ****ed from the get go.
You can keep posting the same discredited crap, but it's still discredited crap. What you're doing is a fallacy called argumentum ad nauseum.
The NHS (check international figures), state schooling (Check international figures), British rail (just because our privatised railways are crap due to restrictions doesn't mean British rail wasn't crap), British Leyland, pretty much every 'service' most local councils provide when they can be arsed...
I'm a minarchist generally speaking, although with the proviso that I do think the state should provide a meaningful safety net in a fair manner, which is why I support NIT.
I'm not misguided in what I'm thinking, it is simply impossible to be free when you cannot have fiscal freedom.
See, the irony is, I've not actually argued that Libraries should be privatised. I've simply asked why they can only be run by the state, and no-one so far has been able to give an answer that isn't 'just because, ok??!!??'
There's also still the issue of this being the local councils making decisions they know will be politically unpopular to try and get a better settlement rather than making their general operations more efficient, being less irritating over pointless things or having endless non-jobs...
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To understand Socialism and why it's needed you first need to understand the flaws in the current system, if you're not even going to make an effort to do that then why should anybody take your opinion seriously?
International figures mean nothing as long as people can get treated when they need to, which has always been the case with every experience i've had or heard of. There's no way privatizing it would increase the quality of the service, because privatizing means selling, and selling means somebody buys it. This person would only buy it to make a profit from it, and the profit could only be achieved by providing a worse service. It's the same for almost every other service (although the education system does not do as it's name suggests, but that's a flaw in the system as a whole and not with the way it's managed), so i won't bother you with each.
Well the 'safety net' would be the people, would it not? Generally speaking, of course. If it were any other way then all you get is an endless spiral of corruption, 'who watches the watchers' etc.
But the concept of money is something which takes away freedom. Take away this restriction and then, and only then, can people even start to understand what 'freedom' even means.
I didn't ask that.
I'd also add I have never seen that in Scotland. I'm not talking mere access, I'm talking tables chairs PC's and internet with option of paying for printing.
McDonalds round here sells burgers and fries.
I would not want reduce children to learning in an environment likely to make the fat anyway.
Does anyone know the costs of these provisions?
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I've given plenty of reasons, and so have others. Just because you read them as something else doesn't mean they are anything but an answer to your question.
I never said you did.
But you've both gone of on your typical rants that require radical changes in human nature.
In both systems there is huge opening for exploitation you both seem to gloss over with "people will change" and leave it at that.
You never seemt o get that no competitio nwill not always lead to the lowest prices they'll end up price fixing on some level among others. (
super's was best illustrated in one thread where when someone asked about after putting the taxes up to massive levels "what do you do when they leave" and was responded by someone else with "stop them" (thus forgoing all attempts at even masquerade as free) supers one of if the whole world was the same yada yada yada.
But simply what i'm trying to say is in system so mind numbingly complex as the whole of human kind and their economies wants and needs no fully "designed" system will work, it's coming about the same way we did.
By slowly changing the best idea's thriving and carrying on till they fail and are replaced by newer ones as the goal posts move with time.
A designed system will be outdated by the time you start to implement it and instantly fail, the current "organic" approach is working nicely over time it will have ups and downs but not the brick walls you'd face.