Lids off when buying petrol

Flukester

Flukester

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Don't know if anyone else has noticed this, seems more and more garages won't turn on pump until you remove helmet. Been riding 21 years and it's only just started happening.

My local Tesco garage wouldn't serve me yesterday, with some spotty kid announcing over tannoy for me to remove lid. I proceeded to give him the bird and ride off... taking my business elsewhere.

Had another big argument with some fat balding attendant also, in the end after I had paid with card, he went to hand card back and wouldn't let go. After asking to speak to the manager he proudly said 'i am the manager' ...*&&^er!. A few mins later of arguing about helmets, I walked out telling him the only helmet in the shop was him, much to the amusement of the other customers who I could see visibly biting lips trying not to laugh lol

Apparently some of the big chains now have this as a rule, but it seems only newer employees are enforcing it.. I can understand the reasons, but I really think it's going to far...

I'm waiting for the day when they ask this and I have balaclava on underneath, I might even then run into the shop for no reason other than buy a mars bar, I bet he *&&%s himself

/rant
 
GeX said:
with theft of fuel on the up, it seems resonable to me really. I would also think its quite rude of someone to not take it off when going into a shop / paying for fuel.
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I pull up to pump to quickly fill up, walk in, pay and leave... I don't wanna faff about with lid, it's inconvenient.
 
james.miller said:
quite reasonable. if it tells you to remove the helmet on the pump then you should do so. you can go calling the manager a helmet if you like but you can bet they were laughing their asses off at you for acting like a plank in the first place.
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nah, I was LMAO

plus he lost a regular customer... his loss

I'm guessing those replying here are not bikers........
 
james.miller said:
i was a supervisor in a service station a few years ago and we had big problems with bikes driving off. if they didnt take their helmets off they didnt get fuel for that reason.

Its one of those funny things where you are provided a service yet you wont respect the rules and/or regulations when doing so. but apparently, its the attendants there who are the 'helmets'....thats ironic.

oh and they wouldnt care at all about losing a regular fuel customer, most of their revenue will be made from shop sales :)
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I guess it's todays chav culture where people post happily on the tube not paying for petrol, make things tougher for everyone.

Man I sound like a grumpy old man.. wait, I am :p
 
Tom|Nbk said:
Charming.

I always used to take mine off just out of politeness, especially when entering the kiosk.
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Don't agree, how is it not polite to have a helmet on ?

I once got refused petrol until I stepped off bike, with the tannoy announcing it was a fire hazard. The dude in shop then explained fuel could drip on hot engine.... :rolleyes:

edit: I've noticed with age I'm less and less tolerant to stuff like this, if things annoy me I make sure I let them know and just leave... if that means 'the bird' at some jobsworth, then so be it. Makes me feel better :)
 
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Tom|Nbk said:
It just isn't imo. You're dealing with someone who can't see your face. I don't think it's polite. Sometimes it can also intimidate people etc.
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Still don't get it, I'm the customer, I don't have to look 'respectable' and show my face to them to pay for some petrol and leave.. hell most these kids at garages can't even string more then 2 words together without losing interest.

If they are intimidated then they are paranoid
 
Lopéz said:
Unfortunately you do have to look "respectable" to a point. Try walking around a shop looking at the floor with a hood or hat pulled right over your face and see how long it takes for security guards to take an interest. If you are hiding your face there is a high chance you are trying to do so for a malicious reason as far as the average member of the public is concerned.
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totally different, I wear a lid coz I'm on a BIKE, and it's the law. hell the fact I pulled up on a bike, fuelled up and walked in to pay must indicate all is ok.

no 'robber' to be would fuel up then go in and rob them also :)

how can that be compared with some chav hoodie shoe gazing...think your going to far dude! :cool:
 
G J said:
Good riddence you left, nobody deserves to be insulted and abused because you can't be bothered to take your helmet off becuase its an "inconvience" to you.

tbh i find in a lot of these situations when the angry person leaves, the customers usually laugh/shocked at how its so pathetic that people get so upset/angry over something so not getting worked up over.
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to right I get angry, I just want some petrol, like the old days.. the whole world is going mad I tell ya :), if people laugh at me getting frustrated then good for them, I brightened up there day :)

most garages don't enforce these rules, just a few jobs worths...

if the whole thing in the winter took me less than 1 min I'd be happy, but I'm so done up in waterproofs and leathers it just one big PITA, and I feel sorry for those waiting behind.


ok, maybe I sound rude and a obnoxious *&^% here, but as I said, the older I get the less patience I have for this kind of rubbish.. just sick of the way society is going

no-one trusts anyone these days...if people cant show me some courtesy and give me a good customer experience, I'll let them know and leave.
 
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MrLOL said:
I honestly dont think you realise how much of a plank you come across. So far the only reason you've given for not removing your helmet is that its too much effort to put it back on again.

Therefore your reason is just that you're lazy, as for giving the V to the person who asked you to remove your helment, jesus get over yourself. You state in one breath you can understand the reason why, but then abuse the people that do so.
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You dont understand no...

FILLING UP WITH HELMET ON

- Take off gloves
- Fill up
- Pay
- Put Gloves on
- Leave

FILLING UP NO HELMET

- Get off bike (I dont usually do this while filling, as tank is at bad angle to fill it right up, and it just takes longer)
- Remove Gloves place on tank
- Undo D Link (with cold hands this is a right muddle)
- Take off lid and balance on a sloping seat
- Unzip waterproofs
- Unzip Leathers
- Take off Balaclava
- Fill up
- Walk in and pay
- Rince and repeat the above in reverse....

If you were waiting behind, or if it was you and you had better things to do with your life you would be annoyed as well.

Think I'm a plank if ya want, I'm venting my feelings here... could not give two hoots if you agree or not :)

Come to think of it not sure why I'm bothering fighting my corner here... but it's fun trying :)
 
Freefaller said:
Yeah it's a pain taking the lid off, but I do it when I go into the shop. I don't see why you should take it off to arm the pump though, that just seems stupid to me, though in the summer it's nice to get some fresh air around your ears!

It's a bit 50/50 for me I'm afraid mate! :o
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Yah 50/50, worth a debate though :)
 
MrLOL said:
and you dont get off the bike when you do have your helment on ?

your just adding extra steps to make it look worse than it is.
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I dont get off to fill up as bike is on sidestand and the wrong angle.. I can't fill it right up!

I have to get off as I cant reach the floor to put lid on tarmac (not that I'd want to do that on a forecourt)

I cant put lid anywhere except the seat, how can I do that sat on it (the tank has filler that needs to open you know, so cant be used to rest my lid)


You can say sorry if you want mate :) ;)
 
my old man has one of those lids with complete lift up front, police style, the day I wear one of those though is the day I stop biking
 
Janesy B said:
Then why didnt the OP state this case rather than ranting and losing his temper!
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I'm not ranting (well abit heh), but at same time I didn't expect to have to explain in the first post how to take my helmet off

It's a post about something that makes me angry, it's gonna of course come across that way :p

Instead a load of people who had not experienced this for themselves jumped to conclusions without knowing anything about it

I love the internet sometime :)


edit: 3 page thread about HELMETS, not bad going!, though not sure why I'm here on a friday night....
 
MrLOL said:
1) dont fill it right up then. Will you explode if you dont put a full tank in ?

2) you need 2 hands to hold a petrol pump ? gloves in helment, helmet in one hand, petrol pump in the other.

there we go, 2 perfectly reasonable solutions, Unlike you however
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1. I like to fill bike right up I only have 100mile range as it is..

2. It takes two hands to fill a sportsbike up... you try it, without two hands you'd spill it. Fool ;)
 
MrLOL said:
dont buy any of it for a second. Your just excuse making, my mate is a biker and always manages

does he posess some kind of super human powers, or is he just not lazy ? i know which id rather go with.
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I use two hands for most things m8 :p
 
MrLOL said:
you got ladys hands then or something ? :p
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lol :)

tbh, with a flat fuel tank with a race style filler, you can fill it with one hand, but if you drop the thing it would scratch your tank up.

also, you have to hold the nozzle right at entrance to tank or it just clicks off... it take abit more effort than one hand can easily do, and I don't fancy trying it holding a lid in other. It's a accident waiting to happen

if your m8 can do it then he's a better man than me...
 
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