Light Bulb Ban Fail

To be fair they have got soooooo much better recently. I used get them when I was a student back aroud 02 and they where too blue, made my flat look like a walk in freezer. The new ones are decent, and quick to come on. Never felt the need for a 100W bulb.
 
While i've replaced most of the bulbs in the house (if not all) with energy saving ones, the thing that most annoys me about this is the typical "right, we're banning this that and the other and you'll do as you're told" way of the government, forcing you to use specific products. As another post above said, it should be up to you if you want to change to energy savers or stay with standard bulbs and pay for the extra power. Same as with a lot of things.
 
100W bulbs all the way!
So what if I can save £200 odd pounds a year using Energy Saving bulbs. Its my money and my house so i can use whatever bulb i want!!!

Whats next? They going to ban cars that don't do atleast 50mpg?

**** off and leave me alone to make my own choices!
 
photoshop said:
100W bulbs all the way!
So what if I can save £200 odd pounds a year using Energy Saving bulbs. Its my money and my house so i can use whatever bulb i want!!!

Whats next? They going to ban cars that don't do atleast 50mpg?

**** off and leave me alone to make my own choices!
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Yeah because throwing money down the toilet and wasting power makes complete sense.
Based on the fact you're too blind to see the big picture you're too stupid to make your own decisions in my books.

Energy saving bulbs are the same thing but cheaper, why wouldn't you want that?
 
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To be honest I think the power saving with energy saving bulbs is negligible anyway if you've already gone and chucked your CRT tv's away and outfitted your house with plasma and lcd tv's (which is what a good percentage of the population of the planet has done anyway). LCD's aren't so bad (and in some cases use less than CRT's) but Plasmas are terrible power users. In fact I saw a newspaper article from a while ago online in Australia where they were threatening to put a ban on big power hungry plasmas! That's a debate for another thread though. ;)
 
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I get around said:
Yeah because throwing money down the toilet and wasting power makes complete sense.
Based on the fact you're too blind to see the big picture you're too stupid to make your own decisions in my books.

Energy saving bulbs are the same thing but cheaper, why wouldn't you want that?
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Its not throwing money down the drain. Its called living! And as for wasting power, well, isnt power there to be wasted? I pay my elec bills so what does it matter?

And what is the big picture? Save the world? Ye right. Its all good that i change the bulbs in my house to save the world whilst we keep droping bombs, mass pollution, food wastage, etc etc.

What a load of ****! Being green is the new black it seems and everyone wants in. Im bored to be honest!

Energy saving bulbs are not the same! a 60W does not output the same intensity as a traditional 100W bulb, nor does it come on as quick so please dont tell me they are the same as clearly they are not!

They are utter *****!

And i dont need to or want to save money.
 
I haven't bought any energy bulbs yet - then again the house mainly has spot lights anyway (halogen). Bedside lamps only need 40-60W anyway as that's bright enough to read with. My desk lamp is a halogen as well. So I don't really have a huge need for energy saving lamps.

Can't say I care much either way, though I don't get the whole CO2 rubbish. Then again I have a "I love my CO2" sticker anyway :p
 
photoshop said:
Its not throwing money down the drain. Its called living! And as for wasting power, well, isnt power there to be wasted? I pay my elec bills so what does it matter?

And what is the big picture? Save the world? Ye right. Its all good that i change the bulbs in my house to save the world whilst we keep droping bombs, mass pollution, food wastage, etc etc.

What a load of ****! Being green is the new black it seems and everyone wants in. Im bored to be honest!

Energy saving bulbs are not the same! a 60W does not output the same intensity as a traditional 100W bulb, nor does it come on as quick so please dont tell me they are the same as clearly they are not!

They are utter *****!

And i dont need to or want to save money.
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Angry today aren't we :)
 
Dr Who said:
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for the size of them they look more like the golf ball class. as for the 7w that's what they say is equivalent to about 35w.

Again saying this it is a 10 year bulb but it's not the best as it's rated B but out of the 7 Ratings (ABCDEFG) energy saving are classed as (ABCD) and non are (EFG).

But that system is flawed to as incandescent bulbs are E rated usually and as for D rated ones they are usually the eco 30's, C are eco 30's and A's and B's are the CFL bulbs but the reason why one's one and the other is the other is impossible to see.
 
POINT 1:

Green bulbs save electricity and result in cheaper bills, this the energy companies wont stand for, once the majority have been forced by this ban to use green bulbs, and the companies start to lose profits, watch the prices rise to defend there margins, or taxes rise as the governement feels we have more disposable cash to tax.

POINT 2:

At last survey (that I had reason to believe) humans contributed to less than 0.9% of global CO2. As a previous poster has already stated, the vast majority of CO2 on this planet is caused by the oceans and has always been this way.

It is an on-going cycle and will always be. They told us in the mid-late 70s that we needed to pump CO2 into the atmosphere to warm the planet up as temperatures were dropping...

Higher priced lightbulbs simply mean more tax being paid - plus they appear greener.

POINT 3:

This absurd move by the EU is just gesture politics, a sop to the 'global warming' industry. It won't have any effect on climate, but will deny millions of people the right to choose the most effective way of lighting their homes. It's a perfect example of why the majority in this country dislike the EU and its undemocratic edicts. As for the bulbs themselves, a recent study proved that they provide less light than is claimed; they're expensive and won't fit all existing fittings. Madness!
 
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photoshop said:
POINT 1:

Green bulbs save electricity and result in cheaper bills, this the energy companies wont stand for, once the majority have been forced by this ban to use green bulbs, and the companies start to lose profits, watch the prices rise to defend there margins, or taxes rise as the governement feels we have more disposable cash to tax.

POINT 2:

At last survey (that I had reason to believe) humans contributed to less than 0.9% of global CO2. As a previous poster has already stated, the vast majority of CO2 on this planet is caused by the oceans and has always been this way.

It is an on-going cycle and will always be. They told us in the mid-late 70s that we needed to pump CO2 into the atmosphere to warm the planet up as temperatures were dropping...

Higher priced lightbulbs simply mean more tax being paid - plus they appear greener.

POINT 3:

This absurd move by the EU is just gesture politics, a sop to the 'global warming' industry. It won't have any effect on climate, but will deny millions of people the right to choose the most effective way of lighting their homes. It's a perfect example of why the majority in this country dislike the EU and its undemocratic edicts. As for the bulbs themselves, a recent study proved that they provide less light than is claimed; they're expensive and won't fit all existing fittings. Madness!
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POINT1

Oh... So I need to get more 100W bulb, and put them in all my light sockets to save myself money... I get it :)

POINT2

Another armchair expert proclaims to know more than qualified scientists... :rolleyes:

POINT3

Agreed. People should have the choice, and should make it because it makes sense, not because they are forced.
 
mrk said:
Why would you get them anyway? Morrisons have 11watt (equiv to 60watt) Philips energy saving bulbs for 50P each at present!
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11W = 60W? That's stretching it! I expect that was 11x5=55 rounded up to 60W! I always would have 4x not 5x and have never been disappointed. You want to be using at least 15W CFL in place of a 60W.
 
Ross1234 said:
Denying it is sooo 5 years ago :p
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Unless you're American


The main issue should be focusing on fossil fuels. If the energy came from renewable resources then waste is wasteful but that's down to the user.

I'm quite green in what I do but unlike most I believe nuclear is the far forward lol

I understand that electric companies don't want people to change and when at best part most people are using Energy Saving bulbs the price for elctricity could go up, that means for the non-persuaded bulb users who could be losing £200 a year would infact be losing more

saying this, news just in BP found more oil. BRING ON THE ICE AGE!!!!
 
dr4g0nf1y said:
The main issue should be focusing on fossil fuels. If the energy came from renewable resources then waste is wasteful but that's down to the user.

I'm quite green in what I do but unlike most I believe nuclear is the far forward lol
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Little chance of that here. Our politicians are utterly inept and way too much credence is given to people whose only opinion is 'not in my back yard' for anything to change, be it hydro, wind or nuclear power.

All our government can do is tax and regulate people into submission, creating barriers without putting real investment into alternatives. Same goes for transport and housing.
 
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