List of Programs for which Quad Cores see REAL benifits

[NiCkNaMe]

I'm sitting at just over 3.3 with my Quad prime stable, in a very hot and humid bedroom... quite comfortably. Vcore @ 1.375 in the bios... Temps never exceed 65deg using CoreTemp. Haven't had the chance to push any higher because I prefer to give it a decent test at the speed before jumping the gun.

 

[easyrider]

Not everyone has/wants/can have watercooling. It would take my cats approx. 1 or 2 days to puncture one the hoses to the rad.

Also, with my luck, I would receive one that doesn't clock very high at all. Quite similar to my videocard.

But whatever, I'm happy with my purchase and that fact you disagree matters little to me.

what speed are you running your 6850 now?

people are clocking their quads at 3.2ghz on air with the new G0 stepping making the 6850 even more redundant imo.


But I'm glad you are pleased..I'm not knocking your choice but two extra cores for the same outlay is the way to go for most people as they know they can clock their quads too.

 

[raja]

Got a G0 Qx6800 here, they ES's are hitting around 3.5ghz with around 1.375 vcore, on air with C1E on for those loving cool systems and running this intelligently in the summer months.

In truth I'd expect the very best ES type silicon to go to the top end Retail Quads -QX6850's...

Kris has put up a great article today on actual performance tuning for those wanting decent performance without blind high mhz for bragging rights...

http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?p=667

regards
Raja

 

[Energize]

I think the x.264 encoder supports 4 threads.

 

[fish99]

Supreme Commander definitely benefits from 4 cores. Not massively but it does benefit-

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTMwNiw2LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

 

[Tripnologist]

what speed are you running your 6850 now?
people are clocking their quads at 3.2ghz on air with the new G0 stepping making the 6850 even more redundant imo.
But I'm glad you are pleased..I'm not knocking your choice but two extra cores for the same outlay is the way to go for most people as they know they can clock their quads too.

Currently running at 3.8. I'm going to try for 4 once I have some time.

I'm certainly not saying there is anything wrong with the quads. I more than likely would have been tempted to the point of buying one if the G0s were out when I built this system a couple weeks ago. As it was, I work from home and just couldn't wait any longer as my old system was interferring with my job.

 

[555BUK]

I think to sum things up.

*There is little CURRENT reason for a C2D (or fast AM2) owner to upgrade to a C2Q due to very few apps using 4 cores.
*If you are buying a new system, or upgrading from a P4/AthlonXP and your CPU budget is between 150-200quid a Quad is probably the better long term solution.

Also, evryone is comparing the Q6600 to the E6850. The E6850 does seem overpriced in comparisson, but I think a farer scenario would be quad vs Q6750. The Q6750 will likely clock further than a quad and offer real savings that could go towards a better Mobo, GC or Ram.

Personally, I'm now going to stick with my E6550 running 3.3GHz @ 1.2v. As much as I would like to play with a quad, I know I will just be wasting my money.

 

[Big.Wayne]

I would like to play with a quad

I'm sure most people would like one to test but then two weeks later the novelty wears off and its time for a new chip again!

I find it interesting how the price of Quad has bombed! Do you think they are having trouble selling them or what?

 

[Vertigo]

Supreme Commander definitely benefits from 4 cores. Not massively but it does benefit-

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTMwNiw2LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

I play a fair bit of SupCom and, since upgrading to my 3.6 C2D, I've yet to play a game online in which I've not had the fastest system. This has included some games where other people have quads although I've not queried what speeds they were running at. Although SupCom does make use of the extra cores, it's far from a linear scaling.

I think I might query more people I play with and try to judge exactly what speed quads they're using to get an idea of how my processor compares. Would be interesting to see.

 

[weescott]

Surely the advantages of quad are only noticed when paired with other high spec parts and high resolutions? The list of games and progs that people use and take advantage of quad for a noticable difference is small. There isn't that huge jump in performance we all seen going from single core to dual. Sure the price next to the 6850 is tempting, but are people not upgrading to quad for upgradings sake?

 

[easyrider]

Surely the advantages of quad are only noticed when paired with other high spec parts and high resolutions? The list of games and progs that people use and take advantage of quad for a noticable difference is small. There isn't that huge jump in performance we all seen going from single core to dual. Sure the price next to the 6850 is tempting, but are people not upgrading to quad for upgradings sake?

Not really,

People are upgrading cause they can get to 3 ghz + and be ready for future games for no extra cost.

The G0 revision of the quad looks even better.

 

[Big.Wayne]

I'm suprised no one has posted any screenshots or dual vs quad?

I bet the video encoding stuff must be really good with the quad but what advantage do they hold for gamers atm? is there a game or similar that really shows what quad can do?

 

[easyrider]

I'm suprised no one has posted any screenshots or dual vs quad?

I bet the video encoding stuff must be really good with the quad but what advantage do they hold for gamers atm? is there a game or similar that really shows what quad can do?

Not really for games at the moment.

But considering they are clocking to 3.6ghz + then one might aswell have one under the hood.

Even if you don't do video stuff to much.

You still dont lose in the games department and ones performance can only grow.

 

[Nelly]

Is their a list of games somewhere that are enhanced for Quad Core?

All I know of is Surpreme Commander. . . . . .

 

[Vertigo]

Butconsidering they are cloking to 3.6ghz + then one might aswell have one under the hood

Who says they're clocking to 3.6GHz? Some are but there aren't enough of them around yet to say what percentage will reach this. Even those that will are likely to require noisy air cooling or water and chuck out a shedload of heat.

By contrast, the E6850 produces far less heat and thus needs less expensive and/or noisy cooling and I'd wager a far higher percentage of them will reach 3.6+ Ghz than will the Q6600s.

Love the way the quad fanboys keep harping on about how you "might as well have a quad - exactly the same but with two extra cores" whilst conveniently ignoring the fact that the dual has its own advantages. If you need or want a quad then fair enough, that's your choice, just stop trying to rubbish anyone who chooses not to go quad right now - there are valid reasons for choosing this path.

 

[easyrider]

Who says they're clocking to 3.6GHz? Some are but there aren't enough of them around yet to say what percentage will reach this. Even those that will are likely to require noisy air cooling or water and chuck out a shedload of heat.

By contrast, the E6850 produces far less heat and thus needs less expensive and/or noisy cooling and I'd wager a far higher percentage of them will reach 3.6+ Ghz than will the Q6600s.

Love the way the quad fanboys keep harping on about how you "might as well have a quad - exactly the same but with two extra cores" whilst conveniently ignoring the fact that the dual has its own advantages. If you need or want a quad then fair enough, that's your choice, just stop trying to rubbish anyone who chooses not to go quad right now - there are valid reasons for choosing this path.

The new G0's seem to be doing fairly well.

Fact is anyone getting a 6850 when a quad can be had for the same money is either a fool IMO or clearly misinformed.

why choose a dual core path when quad can be had for the same money and clock to similar speeds?

Are you advocating that people waste their money?

I don't even have a quad yet although I did have a QX6700 for about a month.

Loved it but at 650 quid to pricey...Now they are 165 its a no brainer

I can't believeyou can't see that TBH.

 

[helmutcheese]

I'm a fool then, I got a E6850 today, ideally dont use/like Intel but faulty from new Crosshair fried and blew 2 AMD 6000+'s so got a Striker E and a E6850, its a fill gap same as other parts were.

I would rather have a fast GO Dual than non native hot Non Go Quad (GO'sw aint in stock here yet), this will be replaced by AMD hardware again whenever it comes out and clocks are 3GiG+ again on new CPU's.

So far I'm at 3.6GiG, both the above mobos have major volts droop so I need find a measuring point to see WTF actual volts I'm at, Asus are lamers at times but the new Blitz(s) have a circuit and bios setting for Anti Droop.

I got this so I can try for 4GiG on high end air and get most out my 8800Ultra for next few months.

 

[stickroad]

Its 4GHZ not 4Gig, a lot of people seem to do that and its rather anoying.

Yes the E6850 can clock to 4GHZ but give me some benchmarks where a E6850 is clocked to 4GHZ and then a Quad clock at 3.4GHZ i bet the diffrence wouldent be worth comparing.

 

[helmutcheese]

I dont really care you knew what I mean from now on its 4000 Megaherz so you do not get confused or angry .

MY CPU is currently at 3600 Megahertz

I cant give you as I do not have a Quad and when I do it will be a AMD, this is best I can buy now without going mad on cash for likes of a Q6850 thats I dont even want anyhow, again this is fill gap till next Gen but had enough of the Crosshair lark and couldnt saste more time or hardware trying another one.

I aint benched this apart from 20mins each stage of Orthos and Memtest For Windows, not got any other apps installed, its only hours old still messing about and trying to get bit of time to look at web etc.

 

[easyrider]

I dont really care you knew what I mean from now on its 4000 Megaherz so you do not get confused or angry .

MY CPU is currently at 3600 Megahertz

I cant give you as I do not have a Quad and when I do it will be a AMD, this is best I can buy now without going mad on cash for likes of a Q6850 thats I dont even want anyhow, again this is fill gap till next Gen but had enough of the Crosshair lark and couldnt saste more time or hardware trying another one.

I aint benched this apart from 20mins each stage of Orthos and Memtest For Windows, not got any other apps installed, its only hours old still messing about and trying to get bit of time to look at web etc.

You could have got a quad and clocked that to 3.6ghz for the same money