Llooll Aammaazzoonn!

It was an angry stressed out lady no matter what colour she was she'd still have a shrill voice and sound angry or scared because that's what the role called for if it was a nice friendly old lady who never hit tom it wouldn't be the same program! The only stereotype this seems to be promoting is all ladies are scared of mice and have a cat to try get rid of them when that doesn't work or causes even more ruckus they resort to animal cruelty blaming the cat and taking it out on him!
 
simisker said:
On the whole I agree, and I think a disclaimer like this is a better compromise than banning or editing.

The "It was wrong then and it's wrong now" rankles, however, as it smacks of revisionism. While the employment of black maids was being severely questioned by society at that time, it was clearly considered right *enough* to be an uncontroversial thing to depict in an all-audiences cartoon.
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Cartoons weren't 'all-audiences'. 1940s cartoon producers were producing cartoons with a white audience in mind. Black people definitely had a problem with how they were being portrayed in the media at the time, just as many do today.

The Dread Pirate said:
This whole thing is whay out of proportion I bet if it was a sterotypical white english butler instead of said black maid there would be no warning or problem.
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A stereotypical English butler is portrayed as smart, witty and well-dressed. They are often portrayed to be the intellectual superior to their master.

Can you see the difference?
 
The Dread Pirate said:
It was an angry stressed out lady no matter what colour she was she'd still have a shrill voice and sound angry or scared because that's what the role called for if it was a nice friendly old lady who never hit tom it wouldn't be the same program! The only stereotype this seems to be promoting is all ladies are scared of mice and have a cat to try get rid of them when that doesn't work or causes even more ruckus they resort to animal cruelty blaming the cat and taking it out on him!
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The problem is that you're seemingly unaware of the stereotype being depicted, which is why you're rejecting it as being one.

For reference; http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammy_archetype

I'm not saying it's racist or even wrong, just that I can understand why they felt the need to provide a disclaimer.
 
Tunney said:
A stereotypical English butler is portrayed as smart, witty and well-dressed. They are often portrayed to be the intellectual superior to their master.

Can you see the difference?
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The only stereotypical butler I remember seeing on television is in the Fresh Prince of Bel Air, and he was black.
 
Tunney said:
Cartoons weren't 'all-audiences'. 1940s cartoon producers were producing cartoons with a white audience in mind. Black people definitely had a problem with how they were being portrayed in the media at the time, just as many do today.
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I should have been clearer, sorry: I meant all ages, not all races. It didn't occur to me that "all-audience" could be taken another way, despite the topic :eek:
 
spoffle said:
The problem is that you're seemingly unaware of the stereotype being depicted, which is why you're rejecting it as being one.

For reference; http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammy_archetype

I'm not saying it's racist or even wrong, just that I can understand why they felt the need to provide a disclaimer.
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I am aware of that particular stero type however it's not a widley accepted sterotype any more and no one is going to assume it is that unless it's pointed out as the warning clearly does by adding this warning you are actually drawing attention to the steroetype which would have otherwise gone unnoticed in today's society!
 
Well you are now, I've just linked it to you...

You are seemingly making the assumption that no one will understand it unless it's pointed out. You have no idea on that at all.
 
spoffle said:
Well you are now, I've just linked it to you...

You are seemingly making the assumption that no one will understand it unless it's pointed out. You have no idea on that at all.
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Dude it's a kiddies program unless said kiddy has a good understanding of the racial stereotype in question they won't notice or perpetuate it by drawing attention to it and pointing it out to said kiddy you are perpetuating it and thus increasing the likeliness it would be used as an insult! The best thing to do as an adult showing your kiddy this would be to ignore it and not draw the kiddys attention to it therefore diminishing not perpetuating it! And yes I was already aware of the stereotype I just don't see how having a stressed owner going frantic with her pet for failing to do it's job or wrecking the spot is perpetuating it we could just as easily put a white woman in her place and the show wouldn't lose anything if they feel that strongly about it they can always edit the cartoon!
 
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TBH I'm more surprised this wasn't about the explosions in the cartoon promoting the image of Little black Sambo as that was a bit more in your face than the rather ambiguous mammy sterotype.
 
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