Logo Design

BaileyDesign · 12 Apr 2012 at 17:13

Craig R said:
Logos should be vector for scalability unless they are only ever going to have very limited usage.

I create the image one a fairly medium sized canvas ( 500 x 300 ) and once im happy with the final product i make paths of the logo and make it huge , around 6 times its original size

save it without a background as a png

bloodiedathame · 13 Apr 2012 at 01:35

BaileyDesign said:
I create the image one a fairly medium sized canvas ( 500 x 300 ) and once im happy with the final product i make paths of the logo and make it huge , around 6 times its original size save it without a background as a png

Why don't you just remake the logo in Illustrator, then you don't ever have to worry about scale? :confused:

Got any work you can show us?

BaileyDesign · 13 Apr 2012 at 01:44

Tbh i'm not great at all with illustrator. and here's a logo i made not long ago, not the best but was to the specification of the customer. http://gyazo.com/9d34ef36622df8eb7b42d1ff6f6aeff0

Limenote · 13 Apr 2012 at 03:00

BaileyDesign said:
professional

I don't think this means what you think it means.

BaileyDesign · 13 Apr 2012 at 03:28

Limenote said:
I don't think this means what you think it means.

I fully understand what it means, like i said , that logo imo is bad , but it was to the customers spec. I said to him that i could change it completely as i wasn't pleased with the result at all, but he insisted ?

BaileyDesign · 13 Apr 2012 at 03:36

Here's another logo for a customer, and if you see it as not professional, what could i do to improve the standard of my work ? just a few tips

http://gyazo.com/3265705e1da73cb2d7309c46cbfa5add

gord · 13 Apr 2012 at 09:40

BaileyDesign said:
Here's another logo for a customer, and if you see it as not professional, what could i do to improve the standard of my work ? just a few tips http://gyazo.com/3265705e1da73cb2d7309c46cbfa5add

I like the symbol, but it's way too big. If you put a box around that logo, how much of the box is wasted?

There doesn't need to be a shadow either, and your symbol's bottom right edge should be complementary to the italics, ie parallel.

Not keen on the font either, but that depends on what it is for.

bloodiedathame · 13 Apr 2012 at 12:26

I'm not going to judge or comment on your work BaileyDesign as logos are often a mishmash or your own style and what the client wants so if they're happy then you have done an OK job.

I'd seriously consider getting to grips with Illustrator, I wouldn't employ anyone who calls themselves a designer who didn't know how to use Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign (or similar).

And if you are pitching for work then you should have a portfolio website.

Just my two pence (not that you asked for it).

BaileyDesign · 13 Apr 2012 at 16:53

bloodiedathame said:
I'm not going to judge or comment on your work BaileyDesign as logos are often a mishmash or your own style and what the client wants so if they're happy then you have done an OK job.

I'd seriously consider getting to grips with Illustrator, I wouldn't employ anyone who calls themselves a designer who didn't know how to use Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign (or similar).

And if you are pitching for work then you should have a portfolio website.

Just my two pence (not that you asked for it).

Thanks for the feedback

i'll look into getting to grips with illustrator , atm photoshop and Cinema4D are the only programmes i use daily. And its funny you should mention a portfolio because im making one at this very moment.

BaileyDesign · 13 Apr 2012 at 16:55

gord said:
I like the symbol, but it's way too big. If you put a box around that logo, how much of the box is wasted?

There doesn't need to be a shadow either, and your symbol's bottom right edge should be complementary to the italics, ie parallel.

Not keen on the font either, but that depends on what it is for.

I instantly thought the logo was too big, so i scaled it down but the customer wasn't happy, he prefered it big. Nice work on modifying it though , looks great in red

simisker · 13 Apr 2012 at 18:01

BaileyDesign said:
I instantly thought the logo was too big, so i scaled it down but the customer wasn't happy, he prefered it big. [...]

But was he right? If not, why did you let him convince you, when it's a professional designer's responsibility to convince your client that the solution you're presenting is the best for them?

If you can't convince your client that your solution is the right one, then you lose authority and credibility. When you lose these, the client starts making design decisions despite being much less equipped to do so than you [or at least, much less equipped than you ought to be].

At that point, you're not a professional designer. You're a computer operator. An Adobe monkey. And probably a poorly-paid one at that.

stufflol · 13 Apr 2012 at 18:08

If your not using illustrator to create logos then you can not even begin to use the word proffesional as vector is a requirement.

TheBiznes · 13 Apr 2012 at 19:54

Had ours done by this guy an American graphic designer cost around £250. I was very pleased with the results

Gregg Poserina Y3K Designs

http://www.y3kdesigns.net/

BaileyDesign · 14 Apr 2012 at 05:40

simisker said:
But was he right? If not, why did you let him convince you, when it's a professional designer's responsibility to convince your client that the solution you're presenting is the best for them?

If you can't convince your client that your solution is the right one, then you lose authority and credibility. When you lose these, the client starts making design decisions despite being much less equipped to do so than you [or at least, much less equipped than you ought to be].

At that point, you're not a professional designer. You're a computer operator. An Adobe monkey. And probably a poorly-paid one at that.

I totally see where you're coming from, but on the other hand. Isn't it important that the customer is happy with their final product? I explained thoroughly to the customer that with the smaller logo it will be easier to use universally etc but he became a bit frustrated with my stalling. But i can definitely see your side of the argument.

Limenote · 14 Apr 2012 at 18:13

BaileyDesign said:
I fully understand what it means, like i said , that logo imo is bad

I'm not judging your designs i'm simply stating the title of professional should be reserved for individuals that are veterans in their industry, you have no authority to use this title. You don't use the correct fundamental tools as one example.

Its not personal I just have a problem with people defacing the word by using it to describe work not of this level. (I am NOT a professional and wouldn't dream of calling myself one)

stufflol said:
If your not using illustrator to create logos then you can not even begin to use the word proffesional as vector is a requirement.

exactly.

BaileyDesign · 15 Apr 2012 at 16:46

Limenote said:
I'm not judging your designs i'm simply stating the title of professional should be reserved for individuals that are veterans in their industry, you have no authority to use this title. You don't use the correct fundamental tools as one example.

Its not personal I just have a problem with people defacing the word by using it to describe work not of this level. (I am NOT a professional and wouldn't dream of calling myself one)

exactly.

I totally agree with you actually.

mattyg · 15 Apr 2012 at 16:50

BaileyDesign said:
Here's another logo for a customer, and if you see it as not professional, what could i do to improve the standard of my work ? just a few tips http://gyazo.com/3265705e1da73cb2d7309c46cbfa5add

I'd love to see that embroidered on a T-shirt.

mattyg · 15 Apr 2012 at 16:52

Limenote said:
I'm not judging your designs i'm simply stating the title of professional should be reserved for individuals that are veterans in their industry, you have no authority to use this title. You don't use the correct fundamental tools as one example.

Its not personal I just have a problem with people defacing the word by using it to describe work not of this level. (I am NOT a professional and wouldn't dream of calling myself one)

exactly.

The problem is If you do it for a living the apparently as its your profession your a professional.

BaileyDesign · 15 Apr 2012 at 19:41

mattyg said:
The problem is If you do it for a living the apparently as its your profession your a professional.

True, but reflecting on what's been said, I think the argument for work being "professional" is neverending and will always be disputed.

bloodiedathame · 16 Apr 2012 at 13:40

BaileyDesign said:
True, but reflecting on what's been said, I think the argument for work being "professional" is neverending and will always be disputed.

I disagree with that entirely. Whilst your work might be classed as "professional looking" your working practices coinciding with your rates definitely do not say professional.