London Bridge Incident

[fadetoblack]

Oh right, let's lockup lots of innocent people because a small percentage of nutters have killed some innocent people

Makes sense

Worked in ww2 in Britain

BBC - WW2 People's War - Timeline

Fact File : Civilian Internment
1939 - 1945



At the outbreak of war there were around 80,000 potential enemy aliens in Britain who, it was feared, could be spies, or willing to assist Britain's enemies in the event of an invasion. All Germans and Austrians over the age of 16 were called before special tribunals and were divided into one of three groups:

• 'A' - high security risks, numbering just under 600, who were immediately interned;
• 'B' - 'doubtful cases', numbering around 6,500, who were supervised and subject to restrictions;
• 'C' - 'no security risk', numbering around 64,000, who were left at liberty. More than 55,000 of category 'C' were recognised as refugees from Nazi oppression. The vast majority of these were Jewish.

 

[Tefal]

Because gang problems haven't done what Islamic extremists have done in the last years.

The gangs mainly kill each other.

But if a gang did what happened last night, just to go out with no other motive that to submit terror then I'd be exactly the same. However Islamic extremism is the main problem we face.

the last big attack by Islam was in 2007 man that's 10 years ago in that time far more innocents have been caught up as collateral damage like rhys jones

 

[Omaeka]

What about the innocent who were slaughtered last night and in Manchester a week before?

They don't matter according to the masses. As we can't fight back or get angry otherwise we are being racists, so just pop a candle, shed a tear and wait for the next one. The sad thing is, they are actually following the Quran. This is just a downscaled version of what Mohammed did. How anybody can be knowledgeable of Islam and actually follow it is nuts, the majority of that religion is based upon either killing the unfaithful to Allah, or conquering heathen populaces through mass migration. I know that there are good Muslims out there (who are simply not following the teachings of Mohammed) but their good is out scaled by the faithful at this point.

Anyway let me get some popcorn and wait for what the apologists have to say in response, watch them get angry at posts like this. Gotta avoid looking racist yeah? Even if it costs more lives. Are you aware that the 3 brave men on London bridge who carried out this attack cornered a woman who was frightened for her dying boyfriend and stabbed her over 20 times? Still, our barbarian peasant way of life needs more of this middle eastern culture, you're right. Silly me.

 

[Tefal]

Glad you agree. There are an estimated 23,000 jihadis in the UK right now, compare the cost of interning them with the cost of attacks like this one and the one in Manchester last week.

hang on hang on? wait theres 23,000 jihadis in the uk but the terror watch list is only 3500 people?

compare the cost of interning them with the cost of attacks like this one and the one in Manchester last week

vastly vastly vastly more to the point i dont even think its possible to calculate.

heck what is SA says in protest of us locking up 23k random muslims they will refuse to sell oil to the uk?

 

[The Running Man]

Think we need the Sunni mayor of London to do.mpre tbh

 

[Caged]

Worked in ww2 in Britain

How are you defining 'worked' here?

 

[Destination]

3 successful attacks and 5 foiled "credible" attempts in 3 months.

Does anyone in the government have the balls to do anything about this or are we simply going to hear empty platitudes and twitter hash tags over and over?

What should they do, specifically?

 

[Freakbro]

If you are on the list it isn't for no reason.

I think that's where a big disparity in our thoughts and proposed reactions come from.

One group seem to think the watch list is a targeted thing where anyone on it is guilty of something bad

The other group think the watch list is a wide drag net covering anyone with any connection to a known bad person

Personally, i'm in the second group, I could see for example you could be on the list because there are phone records linking you to a suspected terrorist. On investigation it turns out he phoned you a couple of times about something you sold on Gumtree.

But until they get round to checking into your very low level connection, you are on the list...

Do we actually know the criteria for being put on a watch list initially?

 

[Tefal]

Are you saying we shouldn't interrogate people on the list because it would inconvenience some of them should they be innocent? If they are innocent then they'll be found so in due time.

Anyone spreading the extreme ideology online or in mosques should be locked up - you would imagine this would be welcomed in the Muslim community if they don't want to be permanently associated with Islamic terrorism yet you can see in this thread the opposition to it. Strange.

probably should interrogate them as it will let them know they're on the list and being monitored thus giving upo vital information gathering abilities.

but just to be clear you are saying you'd be ok being one of the people locked up and delt with in due time?

 

[Freakbro]

They shouldn't be detained either

 

[Freakbro]

Only God thinks that's a crime, so carry on as you are

 

[McstylisT]

What about the cyclist murdered in Battersea or the father stabbed to death in Enfield, in April? What about the gangs of moped riders out to mug people who will respond with knifes if they are challenged? Islamic extremism is undoubtedly a problem, but it's far from the main issue in cities like London.

But again, we are in a treat talking about the attack at hand.

It's just a drip fed liberal view to defend and make it all problems so people don't say the truth ,, and that's Islamic extremists are responsible and the Muslim community now needs full indoctrination and full and unlimited access to the mosque life and visitors. Good qualitys muslims shouldn't have an issue with that.

 

[dowie]

Yup the token apology/virtue signalling from muslim groups is quite common these days...yet this organisation was happy to invite a speaker who called Jews 'pigs and monkeys' and another who called for troops to come home from Iraq in coffins if they didn't convert to Islam.

They've called for 'Holocaust Memorial Day' to be replaced with 'Genocide Memorial Day' because, well, they don't like 'the Jews' much. They don't accept Ahmadiyya Muslim's and one of their affiliates believes they 'deserve to die'. They warn muslim parents about school activities like mixed swimming lessons or having to shake hands with the opposite sex in prize giving ceremonies.

They're pretty much reflective of the wider problem of Islam within the UK - which isn't just confined to the few members of the Islamic community who carry out terror attacks but the wider backwards beliefs and isolationism practiced by many.

So it is great that they're able to issue a condemnation but really actions would speak much louder than words.

 

[fadetoblack]

How are you defining 'worked' here?

Clues in the title

 

[Puzzled]

The witness description of the woman being stabbed multiple times has really stuck with me, the thought of someone's mother, daughter, sister, friend etc just walking down the street and being stabbed again and again, screaming for help and no-one can do anything.....

How can someone become so sick in the head to want to do that, its all so pointless.

 

[Felon]

Think we need the Sunni mayor of London to do.mpre tbh

Well to be fair to him, he's mayor of a city which is now a huge terror target, the chickens have come home to roost - and he's left with a decrepit police force - a police force that was decimated by Theresa May as Home Secretary.

 

[Destination]

I agree, actions speak louder than words.

Where are you getting your 35000 figure scorza?

 

[McstylisT]

They don't matter according to the masses. As we can't fight back or get angry otherwise we are being racists, so just pop a candle, shed a tear and wait for the next one. The sad thing is, they are actually following the Quran. This is just a downscaled version of what Mohammed did. How anybody can be knowledgeable of Islam and actually follow it is nuts, the majority of that religion is based upon either killing the unfaithful to Allah, or conquering heathen populaces through mass migration. I know that there are good Muslims out there (who are simply not following the teachings of Mohammed) but their good is out scaled by the faithful at this point.

Anyway let me get some popcorn and wait for what the apologists have to say in response, watch them get angry at posts like this. Gotta avoid looking racist yeah? Even if it costs more lives. Are you aware that the 3 brave men on London bridge who carried out this attack cornered a woman who was frightened for her dying boyfriend and stabbed her over 20 times? Still, our barbarian peasant way of life needs more of this middle eastern culture, you're right. Silly me.

Exactly. Enough is enough. We need to stop pulling punches and dig deep to reveal more abou this.

 

[Caged]

But again, we are in a treat talking about the attack at hand.

It's just a drip fed liberal view to defend and make it all problems so people don't say the truth ,, and that's Islamic extremists are responsible and the Muslim community now needs full indoctrination and full and unlimited access to the mosque life and visitors. Good qualitys muslims shouldn't have an issue with that.

Well it was you who called it the main issue, I don't agree. It's certainly an issue, but nobody really knows where to begin solving it. Lots of angry thumb-people like to claim that now is the time for action, but can't really decide what that action should be, other than making sure people know that they aren't liberal and don't agree with people saying "well hang on now you can't just put everybody in a camp".

 

[stulid]

Meh, was going to type something but someone somewhere will probably be offended and I don't want to be called a racist now do I.

Time to change my FB pic as that will surely help.