Poll: Lotus Emira Discussion

Who is going to buy one?

  • Yes V6 FE Manual - 5k paid

    Votes: 11 28.9%
  • Yes V6 FE Auto - 5k paid

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yes i4 DCT FE - 2k paid

    Votes: 2 5.3%
  • Still thinking about and NO deposit paid

    Votes: 19 50.0%
  • 2k Deposit paid but making no decisions yet, holding out.

    Votes: 6 15.8%

  • Total voters
    38
It is a shame the V6 seems a bit held back in the Emira, I mean a sports car with a hard rev cut at 6.7k when things are just getting good, what's that all about, but the thing with the Emira for me is it just looks so much better than many rival sports cars, I mean the Cayman or Alpine are nice enough in isolation, but they don't have the same supercar wow factor the Emira gives off, of course how things drive are important for a sports car but it's hardly a bad drive, you just feel it has not yet hit its potential.

Agreed which is why if it had been a convertible option it might not as been as pure technically but a lot more wow. And seeing as its not a wow currently then...mehr

But they are also super expensive here compared to the price you guys get I think. You get a lot of metal even now for 100-120k or the step up isn't much more.
 
It is a shame the V6 seems a bit held back in the Emira, I mean a sports car with a hard rev cut at 6.7k when things are just getting good, what's that all about, but the thing with the Emira for me is it just looks so much better than many rival sports cars, I mean the Cayman or Alpine are nice enough in isolation, but they don't have the same supercar wow factor the Emira gives off, of course how things drive are important for a sports car but it's hardly a bad drive, you just feel it has not yet hit its potential.

Lotus designs are always above the price of them I think. All they way from the Esprit they look great from every angle.
 
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To be fair, in the 2k I drove in it, I didn't really notice any interior build quality issues at all. It was a nice place to be and seemed well put together. The power steering whined at full lock which they told me "they all do"- not really an explanation but it's hardly end of the world.

What I did notice was software issues. Apple play sometimes not working. The wiper issue of not being able to go full speed. I had the dash just disappear totally (car still ran fine). And then obviously their "fix" to all this, completely borked the car!
Just been reading this thread. Any updates on your car @SeatIbiza ?
 
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Everyday driver love it, but they own a Couple of Lotus so may be tolerant, they just did a nice little vid


Used Emiras now sit in my budget window for next car, but it'd be my main car, needs to be reliable, reading forums etc, does seem patchy in places which wouldn't bother me too much, dealer is down the road from my office, but slow repair times would.
 
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Standard British car build quality really, things fall off and are flimsy.

But luckily a Toyota engine+gearbox (in the V6 at least). I think Lotus stopped using Lucas electrical parts ages ago too, so that's also a good move :D
 
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Thing is that any Lotus owner will tell you that the "usually serious" thing hasn't been relevant for about 25 years. Sure, maybe in the old Esprit days in the 80's, but the Elise/Evora/Exige while I'll agree on the build quality, many of the issue are niggles and the likelyhood of an issue that leaves you stranded or with a massive bill are very few and far between, far less than most manufacturers.

Source: owned 4 of them, never been left stranded but had plenty of unusal niggles.
 
Thing is that any Lotus owner will tell you that the "usually serious" thing hasn't been relevant for about 25 years. Sure, maybe in the old Esprit days in the 80's, but the Elise/Evora/Exige while I'll agree on the build quality, many of the issue are niggles and the likelyhood of an issue that leaves you stranded or with a massive bill are very few and far between, far less than most manufacturers.

Source: owned 4 of them, never been left stranded but had plenty of unusal niggles.

As a Lotus owner this is correct. Servicing is even really reasonable, especially against some big German brands.

The V6 is a well-proven engine and with the right exhaust sounds great too. If I had to choose one car the Emira would be up there.
 
The older Elises with Rover engines had some issues, but most have been fixed/upgraded now. The Toyota ones rarely have problems. The worst thing I've had with mine is a bad throttle body (German made part lol) but it was a 10 minute job to swap it.

Even most of the Esprits are ok tbh. But Lotus made their own engines for it so finding parts and expertise can be difficult. The twin turbo V8s are the ones which need a real supercar budget.
 
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Everyday driver love it, but they own a Couple of Lotus so may be tolerant, they just did a nice little vid


Used Emiras now sit in my budget window for next car, but it'd be my main car, needs to be reliable, reading forums etc, does seem patchy in places which wouldn't bother me too much, dealer is down the road from my office, but slow repair times would.


As an only / daily car the Emira is a great option but buy one used that is 2-3yr old with around 10,000 miles plus, then with any luck any issues will be ironed out, not sure if they offer extended warranties but if not too expensive probably worth having.

Main reason I cancelled my order was that as a fun weekend car it did not tick the boxes, I was a little somewhat disappointed, it felt really slow compared to my Exige 410 and even slower than the car I drove to the test drive my 987.2 Boxster Spyder, in fact the Porsche beat it on every driving dynamic, handling, brakes, performance and gear change, which I did not expect, where the Lotus was lovely is of course the looks, the interior is a game changer to Lotus of old and modern technology, but I love driving and I like driving fast and for me the Emira was a disappointment. It just felt heavy and slow to me. :(

Still as a car to use every day it is certainly a great choice. :)

All I would say anyone who has 60-70k to drop an Emira be sure to drive its main rivals:

- Porsche Cayman / Boxster, GT4 now also in budget (987.2 / 981 / 718) - More storage than an Emira, better extended warranties (tried & tested) and a Cayman GT4 has hit bottom, a 981 GT4 would be a great place to put 60-65k now, cannot see them ever been under 50k whereas if Lotus keeps pumping out Emiras they will potentially be 30-40k cars in a few years....

- Lotus Elise / Exige - give it a try yes very raw and not ideal as a daily but such an event - too raw as a daily but maybe you like a challenge

- Alpine A110 or A110S - A110 better ride, more comfort and more Lotus than an Emira with far superior gearbox (7sp DCT), A110S similar to sport suspension and quite a bit faster than Emira, very cheap to run, just buy well as they depreciate very hard, 35-40k for A110 and 45-55k on A110S is good used price, extend the warranty but no major issues reported.

- Audi R8 V8/V10 Manual - Gen1 cars are timeless classics now and absolute bargains, but don't go buying a budget nasty high mile sub 30k car it will cost you more in long run unless its had everything done. V8 not crazy fast, but they feel mega quick to drive (if healthy), which I believe is most important if your getting the frills and feel like your flying but looking down and still at double digit speeds your not heading to jail (NSL roads). The V10 only feels a little quicker but is a whole lot quicker, the V10's really pile on speed and you could easily end up in trouble. The V8 and V10 cost similar to own and run, though check insurance but V10 is no more thirsty than V8 but I prefer the V8 as you can drive it so hard and enjoy all the power without fearing for your license now of course it can still go 100+ easy but you truly have to try, whereas a V10 does 100 without trying. I'd personally stick gen1 for the better looks and either go V8 at around 35-40k for a really low mileage car in ideally a unique spec to help residuals or an equally low mile strong spec V10 but that will cost you 45-60k, keep around 10k aside as though R8's are generally reliable they can throw big bills if you want to keep it Audi OE, magnetic dampers failing is costly to replace with OE, around 5-6k, can be rebuilt for less or even less to replace with passive. Oil lines can leak and need replacing, bushes need to be good as expensive to replace but on a car with under 40k miles should be well and on V8's make sure the AC blows ice cold and you always run with it on as an AC compressor is an engine out job....Other than that I've had mine coming on a year now, put around 4000 miles on it and its cost me £350 for a service with no issues found. I'd not bother with warranty just self insure (cash in bank) and if it breaks see Ricky at RE Performance. Gen2 are bonkers quick, V10 only and based on the Huracan, gen1 is Gallardo I personally find the gen2 a bit boring to drive, all too easy and need big numbers on the speedo to enjoy.

For me if I was dropping 60k on a daily car the plus points for each would be as follows:

Emira: Supercar looks, sounds decent, nicer place to sit, Touring is comfy though can be jiggly at times, Sport is harsher but more me, still comfier than an M2. I feel in another year they will be 50k, so be prepared to lose a further 10-20k on one if owning for a couple of years.

Porsche Cayman GT4: You could also go Boxster Spyder but roof is a faff, the 981 GT4 is quite comfy car, engine is great, chassis is class leading, its only real downfall is though amazing the manual is the gearing is so long it makes the car hard to enjoy and also blunts the performance, for example its quicker than my R8 but it feels slower. Reliable and Porsche extended warranty is about 1k a year which covers entire car pretty much.

Lotus Elise / Exige - Hardcore, probably not ideal.

Alpine A110: Go MY22 or later, this included CarPlay/Android auto, the fastest sub 300HP car you will ever drive bar a Caterham/Atom, amazing road manners/comfort once the alignment is sorted (£100), good storage, mega cheap to run, 30mpg possible on daily commute, upto 50mpg on a run, little less with A110S, just go drive one is all I can as its far more Lotus than an Emira and shockingly good. People like to say how a GR Yaris can keep up with supercars on a B road, well the Alpine does the same but unlike the GR it has supercar handling dynamics been a mid-engine lightweight RWD car, it has really impressed me just how good it is at everything.

R8: All about the engine, V8 for the sound and instant hit anywhere in the rev range been such a high compression NA engine, 8250rpm redline, grumpy gargling V8 down low which turns into a screaming exotic high up the range, V10 if performance numbers matter to you, all year round amazing traction (quattro) but has a RWD bias feeling, you can still skid it as its 85% RWD. Great comfort, rides better than Emira, GT4 and A110S, only regular A110 trumps them all, infact the regular A110 pretty much trumps any car in ride quality.


It is a buyers market again and 60k gets you some incredible metal, so do test drive stuff otherwise I'd had ended up in an Emira and not been happy as have to say for me the R8 and A110 really do have the Emira beat, but I get it some people dislike A110 looks, but do see one in person I too felt they were ugly until seeing one in flesh and of course R8's are ten a penny as are Porsches but hey if you cannot beat them, join them and I buy a car soley for myself and how I enjoy the drive, not to please or impress anyone else. :)
 
They claimed the Emira is quicker than the Exige, but I don't see how. The Exige is much lighter with more power. On still an amazing chassis.
 
They claimed the Emira is quicker than the Exige, but I don't see how. The Exige is much lighter with more power. On still an amazing chassis.

Having owned one and driven both, just FYI I drove Emira in track mode at full chat, hence finding disappointment that the car is now also rev limited to 6750rpm even in track mode, that aside the Emira is nowhere near as quick as Exige, Lotus claimed many things, like a brand new automated factory to ensure panel fitment, paint quality would be perfect yet the cars have bad panel alignment and paint issues already, they claimed QC would be amazing and there would be little to no issues, yet the cars are plagued with silly issues, water leaking into cabin, electrical gremlins, I love Lotus but the Emira was claimed to be many things, which it is not.

Go drive one, anyone after driving an Exige 410 and an Emira V6 FE who does not come away thinking the Exige must have at least 100 more horses I'd be shocked.

I was on a drive out yesterday with an Emira and under full throttle acceleration I had to keep backing off in the A110S to prevent driving through it, to me the Emira felt nowhere near 400HP which is no doubt simply because of the added weight, not sure what they claim it weighs but to me it felt like a 1500kg car which I am also confused how that is even possible but it does seem the case with a lot of modern cars nowadays that they weigh more than they look.

All I would say is an Emira for the average driver is probably a lot easier to drive fast, as an Exige takes some skill to pedal and bravery, having no PAS and been such a hardcore car to many it can be intimidating especially on cup 2 tyres on the road which have no place on the Exige as they are very hard to get heat into fronts, still the Exige took my breath away on a 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear pull whereas the Emira runs out of revs to soon and never really pinned me in the seat the engine just felt so blunted by the extra weight its pulling and missing that extra 500rpm at the top-end I really noticed as my Exige screamed to its 7200rpm limiter, which is for me another huge negative as why the Emira only revs to 6750-6800rpm in track mode when the engine is capable of more unless Lotus were somewhat worried or had a concern over the engine in a heavier car maybe....

GT4 is 8000rpm or there about, R8 is 8000rpm plus and though the Alpine is around 6700rpm its gearing is so short and the DCT box so snappy the Alpine actually feels like a 400HP car and will easily keep up with far more powerful cars on straights, as I say yesterday was out on a drive out and at full throttle it was quite a bit quicker than Emira and just as quick as a V12S Aston, you don't need power if you got a 500+ kilo weight advantage. :)

I still hope Lotus will release a road going Emira GT4 with the V6 pumping out 430HP and a higher redline with at least 150kg removed from it but suspect they'd want bonkers money which drops you into a true exotic with far greater performance.

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Don't want to take away from the fact that the Emira is a very good car and the owner does love it, but at the same time it is not where my 60k would go but I totally understand why people buy them and they are a great all round car.
 
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I wonder if they changed the running gear as well. The Elise and Exige had very light flywheels etc so they felt more lively and rev up very quickly. But that means more vibrations.
 
Thanks for the feedback @Gibbo yes I have pretty much driven everything petrol and electric in budget. Nothing has gone yup this is it yet.

Ideal car would be an Emira with GT4 engine, I'm used to running out the engine to just under 9k :D so the 6700 of the Emira feels like my shopping Car. Still I didn't mind i0t, just a little disappointing everything else suits me.

The obvious contenders like the Porsche etc, are great but a bit dull, dont find them cars that are desirable, great for many reasons like unlikely to loose a ton of dough when my body finally says I've had enough (I'm a fat boy with poor mobility, they are all bad for me :D)

An exige would totally suit me for what I like in a car, I love the look and the setup, it's the getting in and out of it everyday, nope.
 
The Evora is still worth a look as well and a lot cheaper than an Emira. Older ones should cold their values now too. Get a white one and LARP as Roger Moore.

It's odd the high spec Evoras have the same engine as the Emira, but more power.
 
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