Love Britain ? - Vote UKIP.

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While I concede there is a difference between multiculturalism and xenophobia, the UKIP policies are not directly against multiculturalism and are just omniphobic against minorities that don't fit their ideal, be that gay or foreign.



Again you fail. Ukip[ have said anyone can come here as long as they pay their way for the first few years.
Put in to the pot before taking out. simples really even for you ;)
 
Again you fail. Ukip[ have said anyone can come here as long as they pay their way for the first few years.
Put in to the pot before taking out. simples really even for you ;)

So are you saying that they have to secure a job before they come to England? Immigrants tend to come her for work (to the horror of most "stealing our jobs etc").

About what? it's hard work in here today. Is it school holidays already?

You have an agenda, but the only way in which you are arguing is by asking people to provide citations, yet have provided nothing in the way of evidence yourself.

With regards to the latter, since they let you out of school I'm guessing it is the holidays?!
 
So are you saying that they have to secure a job before they come to England? Immigrants tend to come her for work (to the horror of most "stealing our jobs etc").



Are you blind or just *****? I posted

Originally Posted by deuse View Post
Again you fail. Ukip[ have said anyone can come here as long as they pay their way for the first few years.
Put in to the pot before taking out. simples really even for you

Oh I see.... the old "put something in their mouth" routine.
 
You have an agenda, but the only way in which you are arguing is by asking people to provide citations, yet have provided nothing in the way of evidence yourself.

With regards to the latter, since they let you out of school I'm guessing it is the holidays?!


1- Your ninja editing skills need work.
2-"agenda" you're trying make up things because you love to argue.
3-When\If I ever say things about numbers I will post a link.


Aren't you the guy that wanted to hit a guy on a train because he was bald? just asking
 
didnt the OP say he was a UKIP candidate?

If thats true than the election is going to be a total fail train for UKIP if thats a demonstration of their intelligence and debate

one issue party's rarely get anywhere, they might poll well but when it comes to voting, people wont vote, they may get a protest vote but thats it, my protest vote is green or spoil. I imagine the EU elections and in 2015 we will see the lowest ever turnout as faith is totally lacking from the public in politicians of all partys
 
Are you blind or just *****? I posted

No need to be a dick.

My point, although perhaps to subtle for you, was that it must be difficult to immigrate here without either having organised a job in advance (which I think must be incredibly difficult) or having the intention of immediately seeking work, because you cannot immediately claim benefits upon entering the country - as you put it, putting into the pot before taking out.

In the Farage vs Clegg debate, it was noted that 96% of those in social housing in this country are British.
 
Again you fail. Ukip[ have said anyone can come here as long as they pay their way for the first few years.
Put in to the pot before taking out. simples really even for you ;)

Except the UKIP manifesto is basically non-existent (the last time I checked they had nothing on education but had pages on discriminating against same sex couples) and their statements change faster than the weather to try to grab voters through tasty tit bits like you claimed.

The truth of the matter is quite different:
Nothing but xenophobic rants
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...Britain-unrecognisable-says-Nigel-Farage.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...own-partys-stance-on-immigration-9244746.html
 
1- Your ninja editing skills need work.
2-"agenda" you're trying make up things because you love to argue.
3-When\If I ever say things about numbers I will post a link.


Aren't you the guy that wanted to hit a guy on a train because he was bald? just asking

I shan't edit, then.

I do enjoy arguing. As do you, evidently. You have a point to put across, as do I. I was merely asking for evidence of the opposition to my argument, as you have asked me for.

I didn't say anything about numbers (until my previous post). For you to counter what I have said, whilst asking for evidence, requires you to produce evidence also.

I am the man who wanted to punch someone, but it wasn't because he was bald; it was because he was incredibly threatening towards myself and my girlfriend.
 
Before you go full retard I'd suggest you look up what 'multiculturalism' is. There is a common misconception that it means not being all white, it isn't.

Multiculturalism is not the same as multi-ethnicity, you can be against multiculturalism without being a xenophobe or a racist.

Multiculturalism is the idea that you can have lots of different cultures (i.e nothing to do with race or nationality) in the UK, and they can exist entirely separately of each other. In essence, multiculturalism is anti-integration.

That might explain why people can have such conflicting view then, I've always thought it meant having multuple cultures existing harmoniously in amongst eachother, rather than in segregated communities.
 
Except the UKIP manifesto is basically non-existent (the last time I checked they had nothing on education but had pages on discriminating against same sex couples) and their statements change faster than the weather to try to grab voters through tasty tit bits like you claimed.

The truth of the matter is quite different:
Nothing but xenophobic rants
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...Britain-unrecognisable-says-Nigel-Farage.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...own-partys-stance-on-immigration-9244746.html

It's a BIG FAIL day for you. http://www.ukip.org/issues
see how easy that was.
I've got to go for a bit now so I'm afraid I will have to put you on *** hole waiting ;)
 
What a crock of xenophobic excrement! :rolleyes:

People like you disgust me to the core. It is Neanderthals like you that are the issue, multiculturalism works fantastically for anyone with the cognitive capacity beyond and earth worm.

It is the likes of UKIP that causes the issues.

Here's the reason why it doesn't work, you can't even criticize its failings without hyperbolic faux outrage whilst not knowing what it means.

That might explain why people can have such conflicting view then, I've always thought it meant having multuple cultures existing harmoniously in amongst eachother, rather than in segregated communities.

Humans are a funny breed and segregation tends to happen naturally between people with a common ground, no matter how much some like to pretend it doesn't happen.

Playing devil's advocate, we need to remember that all the other cultures also suffer from close-minded neaderthals not wanting anything to do with other races and cultures, it's not just the white UK population that has bigots.

Which is why is doesn't work. Johnny English doesn't want to go for a pint with Pete Polish if they don't speak the same language and vice versa so they end up just resenting each others existence, because Pete Polish makes Johnny English have to wait longer at the bar and vice versa. (For want of a better analogy.)
 
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It's a BIG FAIL day for you. http://www.ukip.org/issues
see how easy that was.
I've got to go for a bit now so I'm afraid I will have to put you on *** hole waiting ;)

I'm afraid this is an epic fail for you, and I have not failed once today (It is a plain fact that countless populations have integrated successfully into Britain for thousands of years, there is even DNA evidence to collaborate that).


So where on this amazing manifesto does it talk about education? I certainly don't see anything, just more xenophobic drivel and anti-EU hogwash.

It is a complete joke of manifesto. It is is hard to fathom that is the best they can come up with if they want to be taken seriously.:rolleyes:
 
Here's the reason why it doesn't work, you can't even criticize its failings without hyperbolic faux outrage whilst not knowing what it means.



Humans are a funny breed and segregation tends to happen naturally between people with a common ground, no matter how much some like to pretend it doesn't happen.



Which is why is doesn't work.


People are free to debate the pros and cons intelligently with unbiased evidence based reasoning, not with blind irrational hatred.

Natural segregation is meaningless. As has been said many time, multiculturalism does not mean complete assimilation.
 
That might explain why people can have such conflicting view then, I've always thought it meant having multuple cultures existing harmoniously in amongst eachother, rather than in segregated communities.

You are correct. If separate communities exist with different cultures this is not multiculturalism.
 
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