You're the one making the absurd claim that the democractic process is fraudulent in all countries so you're the one who must provide the evidence.
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You're the one making the absurd claim that the democractic process is fraudulent in all countries so you're the one who must provide the evidence.
Soldato
Well my family's DNA is from Scotland(we had it done) where does your DNA say you come from?
I'm still waiting for the proof of the "successfully" integrated evidence.
Man of Honour
I'm sure I remember some form of war with Brits
Also, they're from a very similar wealth, class, religious and social background. Is there any wonder there is little contention with new integrators?
Agreed.
Culling immigration would seriously affect the technology industry, in telecommunications there are vast numbers of highly qualified engineers with very specialist skills, they don't grow on tress - they are very hard to get, many of them come from overseas.
If UKIP got in and "closed the doors" as Farage repeatedly goes on about doing, it would put a serious dent in our ability to build things like 4G mobile networks, and other cutting edge technologies.
It annoys me that UKIP keep trying to paint a picture that all immigrants are losers - they are not, we're lucky to have some serious world class guys who come to work here.
Caporegime
I would expect most people to be from Africa no?
Soldato
Con/UKIP coalition anyone? I could see it happening, that will be a fun ride for everyone...
Caporegime
Former colonies?
You also have to understand what the currwent policy is on benefits for immigrants. An immigrant will already have to be legally resident, be registered as a worker, prove that they are seeking employment, meet all the requirements that a UK citizen would have to. Currently, before they can claim JSA they must be been living in in the UK for the three months before making a claim. The current rules look set to be restricted further, e.g. up to 1 year wait http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...efits-for-up-to-a-year-vows-Iain-Duncan-Smith And to speak English
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...from-immigrants-who-cannot-speak-English.html
And that is for EU residents who are already effectively paying into the EU benefits system.
For non-EU immigrants things are already much harder. It is incredibly difficult to get a UK visa for non-EU nationals. having a job lined up is only just scratching the surface on the hoops that have to be jumped through to get here.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...from-immigrants-who-cannot-speak-English.html
And that is for EU residents who are already effectively paying into the EU benefits system.
For non-EU immigrants things are already much harder. It is incredibly difficult to get a UK visa for non-EU nationals. having a job lined up is only just scratching the surface on the hoops that have to be jumped through to get here.
Permabanned
What is absurd is participating in the democratic process and thinking it makes any difference. Pointing out the clear fixed/fraudulent nature of democracy is not absurd.
6 million government employees that is about 25% of the employed workforce work for the government. Do you realy think this 6 million people will allow a party to take control of the state that might reduce the size of the government? until UKIP change their policy as to want to expand the size of government and its debt, it is never going to get anywhere. You have election fraud, where they do special tricks with the votes to get the outcome they want. Then you have the mediaocracy which manipulates the population in to voting for a specific party, usually the party that the state media will support which is the one that maximises the size of the state.
You're the one throwing the word Xenophobe around whilst stamping your feet.
Just so you are aware, I am pro-immigration I think when it is done correctly it can benefit all of us and those coming here, indeed I used to run a car showroom in Bradford and most of my staff were from an ethic background and they are still friends today and they share the same thoughts as me on the subject.
A friend of mine was in the UK and she had come from Australia, she is well educated and a fully qualified pediatric nurse, she has the skills this country is desperately short of here in the UK and we are crying out for.
Her visa got refused for no reason other than the government is refusing visa applications like these as they have set an unrealistic net immigration target they can't possibly hit whilst we are getting flooded with skills we desperately do not need.
The current system means we have absolutely no control who we can let in and who we can't, we just have to accept whoever turns up from the EU and hope they can find a place in society and it puts pressure on us to not accept others from elsewhere.
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Man of Honour
Anyone can get a job.
I don't mind the current coalition tbh honest. We've had a reasonable mix of the more sensible Tory and Libdem policies without any of the extreme ones.
Labours opposition has been pathetic because its hard to argue against common sense and they have already admitted that they wouldn't change much if they got in.
Soldato
I'm sure I remember some form of war with Brits
Also, they're from a very similar wealth, class, religious and social background. Is there any wonder there is little contention with new integrators?
The brits and yanks are like chalk and cheese. I'm a brit come yank.
The yanks love us because we keep our head down, never moan about the USA and certainly don't protest in the streets
shouting "I want I want I want I want" like some minorities here.
It's all about fitting in, and if you don't like it then leave.
Caporegime
Similar to other right wing political parties, the entire UKIP 'manifesto' seems to be fixated around Europe and immigration.
Would it not be nice to have a political party promise to fix a broken Education system, Police service, Fire service and Heath care. Taxing companies properly, fixing the minimum wage, helping youth unemployment and looking at helping the poorest area's of the country.
Instead of appealing to the ring wing middle class, praying on the stupid and continually foaming at the mouth about 'foreigners'.
The single biggest problem in this country is that 'people' still think that England is an empire, times have changed.
Would it not be nice to have a political party promise to fix a broken Education system, Police service, Fire service and Heath care. Taxing companies properly, fixing the minimum wage, helping youth unemployment and looking at helping the poorest area's of the country.
Instead of appealing to the ring wing middle class, praying on the stupid and continually foaming at the mouth about 'foreigners'.
The single biggest problem in this country is that 'people' still think that England is an empire, times have changed.
Caporegime
I quite famously remember a minority protesting in the streets in American in the 60's, shouting something about wanting equal rights (that would be the American Civil Rights Movement)
.Scottish doesn't mean anything, you could be celtish, roman, pictish, viking, norman, anglo-saxan, germanic, etc.
As for successful integration, do you have some kind of learning difficulty? I provided a very informative link that proved a long history of successful integration into Britain.
The Romans and and the locals integrated nicely. The evidence for this is abundant Christianity came with the Romans for starters!
Caporegime
No it is not.
The World is not about fitting in, it's about evolution, it is about traveling from where you came from (physically and metaphorically) and moving forwards, taking new idea's and new thinking with you. You do not evolve by standing still. There is nothing so certain as change.
Ok so you want a smaller state because that will lead to what? More prosperity? More freedom? More equality?
That job may however be a zero hours job with inconsistent working hours. There are also over 2 million unemployed in this country without enough work for them all. And, as unemployment falls as these people move into work, our country becomes even more attractive to unskilled migrants who are desperate for work, and we're back to square one.
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