Love Britain ? - Vote UKIP.

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Tummy said:
I quite famously remember a minority protesting in the streets in American in the 60's, shouting something about wanting equal rights (that would be the American Civil Rights Movement) :o.
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I said Brits :confused:

D.P. said:
Scottish doesn't mean anything, you could be celtish, roman, pictish, viking, norman, anglo-saxan, germanic, etc.

As for successful integration, do you have some kind of learning difficulty? I provided a very informative link that proved a long history of successful integration into Britain.

The Romans and and the locals integrated nicely. The evidence for this is abundant Christianity came with the Romans for starters!
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Well that just shows what you know about Ethnicity & Genealogical DNA testing. Fail 3..going for four?
 
deuse said:
I said Brits :confused:



Well that just shows what you know about Ethnicity & Genealogical DNA testing. Fail 3..going for four?
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You really are special aren't you.
The exact kind of bigot the UKIP attracts in spadefuls.:rolleyes:


With that attitude your whole life is a failure for mankind.
 
Monkeynut said:
That job may however be a zero hours job with inconsistent working hours
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...and yet is still a job.

Monkeynut said:
There are also over 2 million unemployed in this country without enough work for them all
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...and yet any one of them could get a job

Monkeynut said:
And, as unemployment falls as these people move into work, our country becomes even more attractive to unskilled migrants who are desperate for work, and we're back to square one.
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What?
 
I would not both trying to educate certain people on these topics, they're so deep rooted in their ways it is pointless.

You can just hope that people have some sort of epiphany.
 
It amazes me how users here paint the UKIP as xenophobes. Yes there are lunatics in the UKIP, but in every party there are lunatics. I just have to laugh when I see so many people here being so UNinformed about their own national politics. Most thing the users claim is a misintepretation of UKIP.

Being against mass immigrations != xenophobia. Being against mass immigrations is common sense. Farage/UKIP isn't against immigrations, he is against MASS immigrations. Mass immigrations can be economically and socially devastating for a country. Deny all you want, but there is a reason(Well 2) extreme right wing politic groups are becoming more and more popular throughout Europe. With immigration you got to be careful and only select people you need and contribute to society, like Australia does. The welfare system cannot support mass immigrations without huge deficits or heavy taxation.

I also love how people ignore the UK dire economic situation. The UK is basically bankrupt(Along with most other European countries), yet you still vote for parties who keep increasing spending, bails out big cooperations and want a bigger EU. And please don't think the EU is great or has insured peace. USSR style economic restriction on trade outside the EU zone making goods more expensive and keep the poor people in poor countries, poorer. The micromanaging of the EU leads to all kinds of problems in industries, labor etc., besides ignoring democratic referendums.

The thing that kept peace and stimulated cooperation in Europe for so long was NATO and a common threat. And due the long peace period and cooperation we are now so economically connected it would be unlikely for a war to break out between France and Germany. The EU had nothing to do with it.

I am from the Netherlands myself and we are already a few stages further than Britain is. People are becoming more extreme because issues by the current parties is being ignored and not dealt with. Ignoring your current problems, calling every UKIP voter uninformed and racist will only make the situation WORSE. We already had this year some severe incidents and it is a matter of time before **** really hits the fan.

Please learn from our mistakes.
 
Gilly said:
...and yet is still a job.



...and yet any one of them could get a job



What?
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Living on zero hour contracts at minimum wage, even in the North, is an awful experience.

One of them could well get a job. But not all of them. What do we do with the rest?

The point was that as unemployment declines, other states whom we have open borders with may still have high unemployment. So it is never possible to bring unemployment to near zero, the better our economy looks relative to theirs the more will choose to come here. It places the bottom end of our workforce in a very difficult position.
 
deuse said:
Well my family's DNA is from Scotland(we had it done) where does your DNA say you come from?
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We are all 99.9% the same at the DNA level. On a DNA basis we should all just be called 'humans' and be allowed to live anywhere.

Gilly said:
I'm sure I remember some form of war with Brits :confused:
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One that took a few hundred years for the Americans to forgive us.

Tummy said:
I would expect most people to be from Africa no?
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Don't tell UKIP that! SEND US ALL BACK!!!
 
Devion said:
Geert Wilders was `ere
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You're wrong about the reason why the extreme right is on the rise in Europe (true cause = recession followed by stagnation). You're wrong about the impact of immigration (it has nothing to do with the problems in Europe or any other country for that matter). You're wrong about the 'dire' economic situation (the situation isn't great but it's not dire either, the economy isn't growing, that's the main issue). You're wrong to compare the EU with the USSR (you need a reality check and a history lesson). Micromanaging of the EU bla bla.. what?

The EU had a major beneficial impact for rich countries. Cars, tv sets and computers, designer clothes etc. etc. were all but inexistant in the Eastern Block. The developed nations made fortunes through investments as the poor countries in the East started to grow.

Pretty much everything you said is a mix of preconceived ideas and ignorance.

The main problem of the developed nations at the moment is that they haven't found a way to grow their economies at decent rates after the collapse of 2007-2008.

UKIP is on about immigration and the EU because that's what parties without a message and without ideas do, they prey on people's ignorance and insecurity and they make up enemies.
 
Rossi~ said:
I'm actually worried that UKIP might actually come out with a load of votes this time round.
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Sadly I think UKIP could do very well in the May EU elections. But come 2015 I think people will settle down and I do home UKIP gain some seats and decide to form a coalition with the Conservatives. Sadly I do think it will be unlikely for a conservative majority but fingers crossed.
 
krooton said:
That might explain why people can have such conflicting view then, I've always thought it meant having multuple cultures existing harmoniously in amongst eachother, rather than in segregated communities.
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That's way I interpret it too.

Whatever the interpretation, there's nothing nicer than walking through London for example, and seeing people with different backgrounds interacting and adding culture to the environment in which they live. How boring it would be to live in a place with all the same stuffy old people.

Besides there is no "race" - we are the human race. I believe there are only 9 ancestoral gene-types anyway, so we're all just a mish mash of those. As far as I'm concerned we're all the same - we all bleed red, we're all human beings.

UKIP doesn't do anything for me, and I'm too much of a socialist conservative (I know right?) - there are bits from both Labour and the Conservatives (and to a certain degree the Lib Dems) that I like.
 
Freefaller said:
That's way I interpret it too.

Whatever the interpretation, there's nothing nicer than walking through London for example, and seeing people with different backgrounds interacting and adding culture to the environment in which they live. How boring it would be to live in a place with all the same stuffy old people.

Besides there is no "race" - we are the human race. I believe there are only 9 ancestoral gene-types anyway, so we're all just a mish mash of those. As far as I'm concerned we're all the same - we all bleed red, we're all human beings.
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Pretty much how I see it.

Very well said.

Freefaller said:
UKIP doesn't do anything for me, and I'm too much of a socialist conservative (I know right?) - there are bits from both Labour and the Conservatives (and to a certain degree the Lib Dems) that I like.
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Interesting mix :p
 
kitch9 said:
People don't understand that you can be pro immigration whilst being completely against the mess of a system we have got.
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People don't understand that we aren't in that much of a mess now, immigration is controlled, and there are viable alternatives (e.g. conservative party) such that no one has to vote for a single issue extreme party.
 
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