Lulzsec!
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Aspergers/Autism should ONLY be allowed/used if the person has been diagnosed by a psychologist before this event occured.
Not enough people would care though so that will be why they won't. 
shouldnt be allowed regardless loads of people on the far end of the autism spectrum dont commit crimes or malcious acts just like most people on the other end of the spectrum are law abiding citizens.
blaming crimes on a mental illness such as autism or aspergers is just looking for a scape goat
surely the other way around.
If diagnosed before the person and his family knows of his condition and should be taking steps to limit it's effect.
if only diagnosed afterwards they never would have known there was something wrong.
I see the old ignorance regarding Asperger coming up again...
You do realise one of the defining aspects of how Asperger can present is the inability to correctly deal with right and wrong? and it can take months or even years of training to overcome and thats if the condition is recognised early on for what it is and dealt with correctly - those on the extreme end of the spectrum usually get the help and understanding they need to prevent them doing anything too bad or aren't in a position to do anything too bad but some always slip through the cracks.
Of course it could just be used as a scape goat in this specific case as it can be hard to diagnose the extent of the condition and easy to hide behind.
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Not always easy tho, i.e. a guy I went to school with who has severe Aspergers got worked up by all sorts on facebook but his parents/carers being technically illiterate had no idea what was going on - one that would work him up would be hair styles if someone posted a picture on facebook with a style he didn't like he'd badger them constantly to take the picture off - it was only dealt with when he started posting dozens of letters to celebs when he'd see them on TV with a style he didn't like, he literally couldn't let it go.
EDIT: One thing I would say tho - for someone to suffer from it severely enough for it to be useable as a defence in a case like this - there would normally be plenty of evidence of the condition - usually its recognised at school, co-workers would notice erratic/OCD behavior, in a large number of cases they demonstratably present with a gift for something specific i.e. one guy I know can instantly tell you which day of the week i.e. a monday you were born on just from your date of birth, another can draw anything from memory in incredible detail having only seen it once and so on.
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Indeed.
no aspergers effects brain chemisty related to whats considered socially normal, people with aspergers find it hard to read emotions and facial exprections etc and can end up confused.
they know what is right from wrong concerning the law because they are taught exactly the same way as a normal person.
one of my wifes friends has an autistic teenage son , he will hug people without thinking wether they want to be hugged or not he doesnt realise it might be the wrong thing to do.
also i was recently diagnosed with autism
i did a lot of research about the autism spectrum whilst waiting for diagnosis i am far from ignorant when it comes to the autism spectrum.
you sound very ignorant as aspergers and the rest of the autism spectrum can not be treated , there is no cure it is how ones brain is hard wired maybe you are confusing the autism spectrum with something else.
http://www.autism.org.uk/about-auti...tion/what-are-the-causes-is-there-a-cure.aspx
http://www.paains.org.uk/related/faq.htm
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All these new fancied excuses make me laugh he got caught being nAughty and that's it
That commonly how it presents but the exact nature depends person to person, often they will know right from wrong concerning the law but still have a hard time doing the right thing because thats the way they are wired.
No they can't be treated/cured directly, but a good many people with Aspergers - especially if its recognised early on - can learn to recognise over time the thought patterns, etc. and become somewhat more self aware and better in control.
I'm suprised at your early view point now considering your apparent awareness in the later post. I'm not an expert on the subject and might get some aspects wrong but have had more exposure to it than is common.
I think your focusing too much on the Autism part of the spectrum where its more common to not even be aware of what might and might not be acceptable whereas Aspergers is a little different in that regard.
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well it is not something i have experienced, i have always known whats right or wrong regarding the law , since finding out i have autism i have not came across any information which has suggested people on the austic spectrum may have any issues with whats moraly wrong concerning the law.
i know about the whole "its not my fault" thing its been pointed out to me on more than a few occasions although i still swear its not my fault but generally i dont believe it was
i would never try to blame my autism for any crime i have commited and as far as i believe its just brought up as an excuse more inline with an abusive husband who blames the alchohol rather than himself.
maybe its viewed differently by people who dont actually have any autistic issues themself or just assumed that because of social confusion associated with autistic disorders that we also become confused with the law.
i dont kow how many other people on these forums have been diagnosed with beeing on the austic spectrum but i bet theres more than a few seeing as computers seems to be often one of the "routines/hobbies/obessions" we get into, maybe it would be worth trying to find out what some other autistic forum members believe regarding knowing wether or not doing something is against the law
i know about the whole "its not my fault" thing its been pointed out to me on more than a few occasions although i still swear its not my fault but generally i dont believe it was
i would never try to blame my autism for any crime i have commited and as far as i believe its just brought up as an excuse more inline with an abusive husband who blames the alchohol rather than himself.
maybe its viewed differently by people who dont actually have any autistic issues themself or just assumed that because of social confusion associated with autistic disorders that we also become confused with the law.
i dont kow how many other people on these forums have been diagnosed with beeing on the austic spectrum but i bet theres more than a few seeing as computers seems to be often one of the "routines/hobbies/obessions" we get into, maybe it would be worth trying to find out what some other autistic forum members believe regarding knowing wether or not doing something is against the law
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My mother used to work with children with Autism for years and the symptoms can be eased with the right therapy.
There are many highly-functioning individuals with autism but I can definitely see a person with Autism/Asperger's having difficulties in recognising the act of "hacking", or rather organising an unlawful event such as DDoS attack, as being evil in any sense of this word.
For all we know that guy was a major computer enthusiast and his wrong doings could be easily influenced by the Internet community.
There are many highly-functioning individuals with autism but I can definitely see a person with Autism/Asperger's having difficulties in recognising the act of "hacking", or rather organising an unlawful event such as DDoS attack, as being evil in any sense of this word.
For all we know that guy was a major computer enthusiast and his wrong doings could be easily influenced by the Internet community.
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"Planned 50 days", sure. Did that include going to ground for the final 7 at least?
Running scared.