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Its interesting there is some dispute if the cause of most car fires is electrical wiring faults or fuel system faults
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I don't think that is true.
While it's less likely, there are still hot engines, high pressure fuel delivery etc involved, so it's possible.
Soldato
It was a diesel RR Evoque. There are pictures and videos of it. So what significant implications are talking about that need to be applied to the types of vehicles that have caused this fire and the many other huge recent fires like the one in Liverpool and Norway?If it does indeed turn out that it was an EV that combusted, destroyed a car park along with over 1000 other cars, caused planes to be diverted and disrupted an airports operations then the knock on implications would be enormous.
Concerns would be raised (quite rightly) regards the safety of parking EV's in all multi story car parks around the country, including all other airports, ferry travel, channel tunnel, below ground parking in apartment complexes and on and on it would go.
Hence it will be declared that it was an old diesel with a leaky tank/loose wire/dodgy MOT and all the above implications will go away
Agreed. The recent fire of an EV Vauxhall van in Liverpool was not to do with the battery but dodgy Vauxhall wiring that had also been seen in fires of Zafira's.
There are known recalls for Evoque's, some based around fire risks.
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Caporegime
I've seen plenty of turbodiesels with runaway engines on fire that suggest otherwise. EVs and Petrol cars don't runaway like diesels.
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I mentioned Vauxhalls earlier. IIRC correctly there was a wiring issue behind the glove box / heater area that over time created a very clear fire risk.
I thought it was generally accepted that wiring faults (hence its mainly older cars that catch fire) were the main source of fires, but that seems in dispute now.
Suspect (although I have no specific source) its connected to what Chris mentioned earlier with the very high pressure systems in many vehicles now.
Evoque fire risk persists despite recall
Evoque fire risk persists despite recall
www.evoqueownersclub.co.uk
I honestly don't get what this tribal bickering is all about, the way people attack and defend stuff that is of absolutely zero consequence to them makes no sense, you'd think there's some kind of award or something for it.
Or people are really bored, like I was this afternoon
Evoque fire risk persists despite recall
Evoque fire risk persists despite recall
Oh this is gonna get interesting if true.
Caporegime
No I am telling you that the cause of the fire cannot be the diesel itself.
Exactly a battery cannot be the cause of the fire. The EV Vauxhall van would have gone up in flames if it was petrol or diesel regardless.
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Man of Honour
No one's arguing that, but that's not what you've said.
You said "a diesel car can never be the cause of a fire". Yes it can because it's not just made of diesel is it? And does indeed contain things that could ignite the diesel.
No one said it was.
A battery absolutely can and has been the cause of many fires. Internal shorts absolutely happen and have caused fires. Ask note 7 owners or those who owed a number of scooters and bike that subsequently burnt down their house.
Edit it’s literally the premise behind the whole EVs catch fire FUD that’s represented in this very thread.
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Caporegime
The diesel hasn't caused the engine to runaway has it. The runaway has been caused by a leaky turbo or something along those lines.
Caporegime
Again the battery hasn't been the cause of the fire. A design fault has lead to the chemical becoming combustible.
A fuel source cannot catch fire on its own. It needs other factors to happen to achieve a fire.
Caporegime
No it cannot by the definition of what you are saying. The fuel a car posseses is irrelevant. The source of heat and ignition is what causes the fire.
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Soldato
Range Rover lol.
Maybe they have AI in the ECUs and when they become self aware, and realise how poor made they are, they can't handle it and set themselves on fire.
Maybe they have AI in the ECUs and when they become self aware, and realise how poor made they are, they can't handle it and set themselves on fire.
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Surely Brexit, Elon Musk, Donald Trump, Rishi whatsisname, the Chinese virus and climate change have had some detrimental input to this disaster, it can't all be down to the technological weaknesses of vehicle fuel systems? 
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Surely Brexit, Elon Musk, Donald Trump, Rishi whatsisname, the Chinese virus and climate change have had some detrimental input to this disaster, it can't all be down to the technological weaknesses of vehicle fuel systems?
Check the DE and DM tomorrow
It will probably be due to Rubber boats, too many immigrants, the French, the Germans, bendy bananas, 1966 world cup, Maradona, princess Di, EU corruption, and fuel prices having risen because of Ukraines failure to capitulate
Edit oh sorry I forgot, and some new wonder pill that reduces aging
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Soldato
It's definitely immigrants.
Soldato
Would have been way funnier if someone tried blaming an EV based on a LiFePO4 spontaneously catching on fire. It is also hysterical reading some of the comments with people getting seriously defensive over the way a car is powered, using a highly combustible substance, possibly being a major factor. Next we'll be getting told smoking cigarettes doesn't cause cancer, its just the chemicals they put in them. 