Soldato
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People under 21 should be limited to 1.2 litre engines and not allowed to drive after 10pm or with more than one passenger. Those over 80 should not be allowed to drive full stop.
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Lol, OK Grandad. Sorry I spoke up about your generation.
In all seriousness though the age group you've pinpointed are stung by insurance companies due to inexperience with driving, yet old people get cheaper insurance which doesn't take into account any of the ailments like reduced reaction time etc but gives them credit because of the years of experience they have on the roads.
Well when those people passed their tests I'd argue (hell some probably like my Grandad {God rest his soul} got his licence in Cairo during the war), cars were slower, roads were quieter and not as congested as they are today, yet these people get to carry on driving, something is not quite right there.
#NotAllUnder25s & #NotallOver80s before you start.
To be fair when i get old(er) i think i wouldnt want to voluntarily give up my licence and would be stubborn about it.
Seems to be a spate of it happening..
Today here in Peterborough
http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/...on-collision-on-a47-in-peterborough-1-7008580
Today here in Peterborough
http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/...on-collision-on-a47-in-peterborough-1-7008580
Poorly signed split dual carriageways can be a nightmare.
There are several places on the A1 where, in the dark, the carriageways are split and it looks like a normal cross road not dual carriageway when coming in from a side road. We had to ring someone a few years ago when their car turned into the North bound carriageway going south (we had almost done so moments before before realising)...
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I don't understand, you now want to use insurance pricing to determine who should be on the road? If you get expensive insurance you should be allowed to drive despite being a higher risk group than the old codgers who get away with cheap insurance? What utter guff. You're either safe or not.
I'm younger than you, but nice try at trolling.
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Judging by the video which was released yesterday of the 2 stupid 20~ year old males driving round my town at speeds of up to 90mph in a 30mph zone, I think it's pretty harsh to generalise against old people. Luckily it was only their deaths on their hands, but the video is a pretty horrible watch. The scene was terrible, right at the end of my road.
There are **** drivers across all spectrums, maybe young drivers do need limited cars though...
There are **** drivers across all spectrums, maybe young drivers do need limited cars though...
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I don't think there should be a retest, as most drivers would fail a full test through bad habits. A simple competency test would be a good idea though IMO.
Generalising, but I imagine a lot of young drivers are killed through inexperience and speed and a lot of elderly drivers are involved in higher number of low speed crashes, parking shunts etc or cause accidents by driving too slowly (causing other drivers to lose patience/overtake etc) and pulling into/out of junctions into oncoming cars.
I used to encounter an old lady on my commute who drove down a farm track at about 5 mph and pulled straight out into the NSL A road without stopping or looking, then continued at about 20mph. I'd imagine if someone had to swerve to avoid her an crashed, she'd merrily trundle along oblivious to the devestation she'd caused.
Generalising, but I imagine a lot of young drivers are killed through inexperience and speed and a lot of elderly drivers are involved in higher number of low speed crashes, parking shunts etc or cause accidents by driving too slowly (causing other drivers to lose patience/overtake etc) and pulling into/out of junctions into oncoming cars.
I used to encounter an old lady on my commute who drove down a farm track at about 5 mph and pulled straight out into the NSL A road without stopping or looking, then continued at about 20mph. I'd imagine if someone had to swerve to avoid her an crashed, she'd merrily trundle along oblivious to the devestation she'd caused.
why motorways motorways are the safest rounds in the country. (only 3% off accidents happen there)
except it wouldn't "vastly" reduce anything as your restrictions do not restrict any of the areas that young drivers have accidents in.
Dude I wasn't trolling I was making light of your comment. Maybe a smilie would've helped.
I was just using insurance as a point of reference as to how unfair it is senior citizens get a free pass almost when they're older despite not probably being capable of driving.
So bhp limiting and a curfew and passenger restrictions wouldn't help? What kind of accidents do youngsters have ?
Even a low powered car can go quick enough to cause a fatal accident.
Exactly.
Why ban them from motorways when they can hoon around single track country lanes littered with blind bends? I know where the crashes are likely to happen...
A new crappy 1.2 corsa can hit 90mph. Could speed restrict them though but I'm sure these are option already available for cheaper insurance.
I have driven a few of these new 1.2 cars now (hire and what not.) If you're not expecting how bad they really are then getting away at a busy junction can be interesting, in fact the 1.6 qashqai (such a bad car anyway) is scary slow.
Sometimes there are situations where a reasonable amount of power can really get you out of the ****, whoever's fault it is in the first place. I have found 200bhp to be a nice spot (for me anyway), you don't need it 90% of the time but can be handy.
Problem seems to be with training, I'm sure I wouldn't have received a chainsaw license if I could just barely use it but its relatively easy to get a driving license if you can just barely pass a test on a good day, no consistency required. Maybe forward every under 25 (or other arbitrary number) a video of a corpse being cut out of a car with every new insurance policy. I'm sure this is what old people are already imagining while on the road.
And on the old people note, the world isn't the same as it was 50 years ago. I think its perfectly reasonable to retest to make sure people have/can kept/keep up. But also removing public services doesn't help.
Utterly pointless waste of life.
I don't think they are fair comparisons. Those young men had the ability to drive without endangering others, they were just incredibly foolish, whereas a lot of elderly drivers are just frail and lack the cognitive function to drive safely.
I don't think they are fair comparisons. Those young men had the ability to drive without endangering others, they were just incredibly foolish, whereas a lot of elderly drivers are just frail and lack the cognitive function to drive safely.
No because they aren't crashing super high bhp cars in the middle of the night on motorways.
They're crashing their crapy 1 liters in normal 30 or national roads in broad day light.