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Gwyn

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Hi guys
I am currently running a Corsair Force MP510 and it performance has been disappointing. Write speeds have always been under 600 mb/s. Its my OS drive and I think its time to change.

Are the more expensive drives like the Samsung 980pro worth the extra cost over something like a Crucial P2? Also looking at the WD black.

Im looking for a 1tb drive for just gaming.

Thanks
Gwyn
 
Depending on the size of your MP510, you should be hitting significantly higher sequential writes than 600MB/s! Even if this is the 240GB version, then sequential writes should be around 1k. I'm assuming we are talking synthetic tests here?
Though how full the SSD is could impact this (also how heavily its been used) I suppose

My 1TB MP510 drive does 3k sequential writes and some 3.5k sequential reads. But as an OS drive, I would have thought the random read/write speeds were far more important to you.

To be totally honest, I doubt if you will notice much (any!?) difference between any of the top tier SSD's in normal day to day use.
 
Thanks for your reply. Its the 480 version I have. Its around 50% full.
I am using Samsung magician to bench it and here are the results:
Read 3460
Write 581
Random read 198486
Random Write 135498
 
My 1TB drive is around 50% full (used regularly as one of my games Libraries), bought 2nd July 2019.

Just run the latest version of Samsung Magician myself and get:

Read 3453 MB/s
Write 3041 MB/s
Random read 205566 IOPS
Random Write 149902 IOPS

The above are still spot on.

So your sequential writes still look low to me! Though your other results are in line with what I would expect.

Can't remember if the MP510 gets it's own dedicate storage controller. Mine appears to be just the stock Windows driver.
Might be worthwhile checking Device Manager.
 
yeah thats not right
the 480gb should be about 2,000MBs write
got 2 x 960gb mp510 and they've been great
usually its standard nvme express driver
and surface nvme driver gets installed
check if write caching is enabled
and as ssd benchmark shows the driver conveniently for you

edit
as ssd shows stornvme ok on mine
in green writing
vaguely remember if it doesnt find the driver you
get red writing
you could also manually run trim/optimise
though doubt a loss of that much
will be down to trim
 
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As Mcnumpty2323 points out... sequential writes on your drive should be around the 2k mark.

Also agree that the 960GB drives are great. Mines been running solid for over 2 years now.
 
That's hard to say
Corsair SSD toolbox isn't great
But look in it for test option I can't remember
If it's got one and can't check right now
Can also check for firmware update as
I know mine definitely had one
Do you have a second m2 slot you can double check it in?
Or another pc?
 
Unluckily the Corsair toolbox does not have any sort of performance benchmark.

Problem for the OP is that this drive appears to contain his O/S.

Might be worthwhile trying one of the other many Performance Bench marking tools like AS SSD, ATTO or Crystal Diskmark.
And see if this backs up Samsung Magician. Then take it from there.

Might be worth downloading the trial version of SSD Life and see if this throws up anything out of the ordinary. No harm trying.
I'd be interested to see things like "hours on", "data written" etc.

Before considering any RMA. If it was me, I would:
1) Back the drive up.
2) Replace it with another drive and re-image it from your backup. I use Acronis True Image, which makes this very easy to do.
3) Add your MP510 as a data drive and use the Corsair Toolbox to Secure Wipe it.
4) Finally run the Magician Performance Benchmark again.

This would definitely lock down if there is an issue with the drive.
Nothing worse than RMA'ing something, for it to get thrown back at you as "no fault found".

Unless anyone else has any suggestions.

Good luck.

PS. Probably just a coincidence... but 600MB/s is basically SATA3 speeds!

The drive could be overheating and throttling I suppose, but not this badly I would have thought!

PPS. Had a quick GOOGLE and only issue like this I can find, is due to heat issues.
What's the air flow round your M.2 slot like?
You could run Crystal Disk Info while running the Magician Performance test. That way you could check the drive temp/s.
 
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Sorry I wasn't clear there about Corsair toolbox
By test I meant health/smart test
But yeah obviously OS drive you should always have image backup
I like macrium for that
Yeah I always try to double check something if possible
Or as said it gets sent back to you
And you still have the issue you started with
 
mikeo said:
Unluckily the Corsair toolbox does not have any sort of performance benchmark.

Problem for the OP is that this drive appears to contain his O/S.

Might be worthwhile trying one of the other many Performance Bench marking tools like AS SSD, ATTO or Crystal Diskmark.
And see if this backs up Samsung Magician. Then take it from there.

Might be worth downloading the trial version of SSD Life and see if this throws up anything out of the ordinary. No harm trying.
I'd be interested to see things like "hours on", "data written" etc.

Before considering any RMA. If it was me, I would:
1) Back the drive up.
2) Replace it with another drive and re-image it from your backup. I use Acronis True Image, which makes this very easy to do.
3) Add your MP510 as a data drive and use the Corsair Toolbox to Secure Wipe it.
4) Finally run the Magician Performance Benchmark again.

This would definitely lock down if there is an issue with the drive.
Nothing worse than RMA'ing something, for it to get thrown back at you as "no fault found".

Unless anyone else has any suggestions.

Good luck.

PS. Probably just a coincidence... but 600MB/s is basically SATA3 speeds!

The drive could be overheating and throttling I suppose, but not this badly I would have thought!

PPS. Had a quick GOOGLE and only issue like this I can find, is due to heat issues.
What's the air flow round your M.2 slot like?
You could run Crystal Disk Info while running the Magician Performance test. That way you could check the drive temp/s.
Click to expand...

Defiantly sounds like a plan. I googled the hell out of this issue and like you say, heat seems to be the main issue. I will try some different software and also post some of the drive info.
 
It shouldn't immediately throttle/overheat
So if it's immediately 600MBs not any higher
I would kind of think it's not overheating
If it's the board in your signature then looks like you do
Have 2 X m2 slots
So I would try it in the other slot
Along with stuff Mikeo suggested
 
Same company as crystal diskmark
They do crystal diskinfo
Which shows temperature and health status etc
My mp510 sit at 44c as a rough guide
Just tested by writing 200GB of image files to it
It maxed at 68c and no sign of throttling
Again just a rough guide as your temperatures may vary
Depending on airflow etc
But 200gb write is a reasonable test to look for throttling I think
 
Crystal Disk Info gives you the Transfer mode and that looks OK.

So at least your results are consistent.

And the firmware looks to be the latest (same version as me).

So.................

PS. I believe some of the older drives are stuck on the earlier firmware (different components I've been lead to believe). But mine runs just fine on ECFM12.3
 
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