Mac users' elitism

dirtydog said:
Other things Macs don't have... the option to change themes without 3rd party commercial software. The option to turn off mouse acceleration without 3rd party commercial software.

You can change the colours etc through appearance in system preferences, there really isn't anything to change the "theme" on.

As for mouse acceleration, you can adjust that in system preferences.

You seem to be really nitpicking here however ;)
 
dirtydog said:
Other things Macs don't have... the option to change themes without 3rd party commercial software.
Graphite or Blue, take your pick. ShapeShifter does a pretty good job at $20 (much as there are commercial third party themeing applications for Windows), but there isn't a whole lot to change about the OS X theme as it is, and it looks gorgeous out of the box.

dirtydog said:
The option to turn off mouse acceleration without 3rd party commercial software. (Even Windows 95 had that built in - on Mac you have to pay extra)
That's a pain, I agree. You do get used to it, though, and there are a few people who have thrown together command line scripts to ease the pain

dirtydog said:
If you want an icon to show network activity you have to install a 3rd party app like menumeters, another basic piece of functionality not available out of the box. I could go on :o
Activity Monitor, Right Click (:eek: ) -> Dock Icon -> Shown Network Usage
 
Mr_White said:
That's what the slow setting is for.
No, it isn't the same :) Are you not aware of this issue? Apparently not.

For those who haven't tried OS X, you should know that the mouse pointer behaves differently to how it does in Windows, or for that matter in Linux. Many people, even Mac users, hate it so have to pay out for a 3rd party app to fix it.
 
dirtydog said:
No, it isn't the same :) Are you not aware of this issue? Apparently not.

For those who haven't tried OS X, you should know that the mouse pointer behaves differently to how it does in Windows, or in that matter in Linux. Many people, even Mac users, hate it so have to pay out for a 3rd party app to fix it.

The cursor moves so painfully slow on the slow setting I'm not sure how you could call it accelerated in the slightest.

I haven't noticed it at all compared to using a PC with a mouse or trackpad either, just extreme nit-picking again by the looks of it

Having to pay out for a third party app to fix it is a laugh though.
 
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=osx+mouse+acceleration&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

Many of us find the OS X mouse acceleration behavior to be a problem. When you move the mouse slowly the pointer moves ultra-slow and when you move it fast, the pointer jumps uncontrollably across the screen. I've used about 10 operating systems that are mouse-driven, and I've never had any trouble mousing. As soon as I booted OS X, though, I found myself overshooting and undershooting all the time. Shame on Apple for not allowing us to even turn acceleration off!
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2003123020043477
 
dirtydog said:
Other things Macs don't have... the option to change themes without 3rd party commercial software. The option to turn off mouse acceleration without 3rd party commercial software. (Even Windows 95 had that built in - on Mac you have to pay extra) If you want an icon to show network activity you have to install a 3rd party app like menumeters, another basic piece of functionality not available out of the box. I could go on :o

I got used to mouse acceleration, it will always seem strange when changing. I prefer it now.

XP has what 3 themes? lol Olive, Silver and Blue. Otherwise you have to install software or a patch. Not great really.

Fair enough about the network stuff but most normal users won't require that I wouldn't think and the alternatives are all free. And Windows may show activity but it doesn't show amount downloaded and uploaded does it? And that's what you would need.

Does windows have a way of checking the meaning/spelling of any word in any native app by pressing a keyboard shortcut?
 
dirtydog said:
Many of us find the OS X mouse acceleration behavior to be a problem. When you move the mouse slowly the pointer moves ultra-slow and when you move it fast, the pointer jumps uncontrollably across the screen. I've used about 10 operating systems that are mouse-driven, and I've never had any trouble mousing. As soon as I booted OS X, though, I found myself overshooting and undershooting all the time. Shame on Apple for not allowing us to even turn acceleration off!

That problem is non existant for me and it behaves just like any other mouse cursor

It seems like a non issue, more nit-picking.

Plus that article is from ******* 2004.
 
Angus-Higgins said:
Another thing is the support, for instance, if I want software for my Windows XP machine, all I have to do is a Google search, and then either download (if it is freeware/shareware), or buy online, as most software is designed for the Windows environment. If I owned an Apple Mac, I would have to search harder for things, and be limited to less software.

Its easy find software via websites such as Version Tracker and recommendations, the only programs that have limited availability are certain pro apps
 
Having used both a lot at work I prefer Vista for my main desktop computer, but OS X & Macbooks are super sexy, and I am very tempted to get one, though the other Apple machines are mostly pretty horrible.

If software was released on both Windows and OS X for most products it would be a different matter, but I don't like OS X's alternatives. Toast != Nero, OpenOffice/MS Office:Mac != MS Office, plus the lack of games that run natively not to mention the fact you can't upgrade the hardware easily like you can on a PC. Of course you can dual boot or run Parallels, but if your going to do that you might as well use a PC.

Oh and yes, I have noticed that a higher number of Mac owners are arrogant/elitist.
 
Mr_White said:
That problem is non existant for me and it behaves just like any other mouse cursor

It seems like a non issue, more nit-picking.

Plus that article is from ******* 2004.
It is a big issue for a lot of people. And so what the article is from 2004, it still hasn't been addressed :) With Steve Jobs you do it his way or the highway. With Windows you get a choice :)
 
dirtydog said:
It is a big issue for a lot of people. And so what the article is from 2004, it still hasn't been addressed :) With Steve Jobs you do it his way or the highway. With Windows you get a choice :)

No it's not, since it's non existant for me, so how can it be an issue.

With windows you get a choice, not from bill, no, but third party applications.

Guess what, OS X has a modding scene and third party applications as well.

PS: I actually hate you.
 
Mr_White said:
No it's not, since it's non existant for me, so how can it be an issue.
rofl :D That is probably the attitude Steve Jobs takes.

If you doubt it is an issue then search google, or Mac forums, and see for yourself. The first time I used OSX I noticed it immediately. I of course went to the mouse settings to fix it... and realised it couldn't be fixed. I searched the net and found I was in good company.
 
dirtydog said:
rofl :D That is probably the attitude Steve Jobs takes.

If you doubt it is an issue then search google, or Mac forums, and see for yourself. The first time I used OSX I noticed it immediately. I of course went to the mouse settings to fix it... and realised it couldn't be fixed. I searched the net and found I was in good company.


People say you move the cursor really quickly and it jumps erratically, I did that as fast as humanly possible up and down in a straight line.

It went up and down in a straight line, that to me says anyone suffering this problem has muscle spasms and can't control their finger.

I'm a frequent member of the biggest mac forum on the internet and have never come across anyone posting this issue, which to me suggests it's been fixed or improved and all of your sources are out of date.
 
Vai said:
If software was released on both Windows and OS X for most products it would be a different matter, but I don't like OS X's alternatives. Toast != Nero, OpenOffice/MS Office:Mac != MS Office, plus the lack of games that run natively not to mention the fact you can't upgrade the hardware easily like you can on a PC. Of course you can dual boot or run Parallels, but if your going to do that you might as well use a PC.
I think MS Office for Mac is vastly superior to MS Office XP (2003), but then thats just personal preference. I find it runs a bit slow through Rosetta, but if it were universal binary I am sure I would love it long time with no reservations whatosever.

Games... a problem, yes. Not necessarily a fault on Apple's part, as far as my (limited, I'll admit) understanding of the issue stretches. But a MacBook isn't exactly going to be a hardcore gaming machine anyway, is it? The same goes for upgradeability. With a MacBook you can upgrade the RAM and hard drive, and that is pretty much all you will be able to upgrade yourself on any other laptop out there. I think the MacBook is definitely the star of the Apple mac line-up in that respect :)
 
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