[MAFIA] The Thirteen Doctors

Ok I think an important thing to discuss is the extension that was offered to the town yesterday by Jedi. Four votes would have given us an extra 24 hours to hunt for the scum. Here were the players reactions:

Pudney - Actively opposed it and was evasive when questioned
Leprechaun - Actively opposed it then did not vote
Pookie Bear - Did not comment on it and did not vote
Shamikebab - Wanted extension but voted for Psymonkee after town refused extension
Chriscubed - Wanted extension but voted for Psymonkee after town refused extension.

Frankly the first 3 people on that list have a lot of explaining to do imo. I cannot see how opposing extra time for the town is anything but scum behaviour. The rushed time led to us making a mistake last night and losing a lot of townies, that could have been avoided. Pookie's complete absence needs explaining too.

I answered you in post 910, but to expand as well:

1) we were bickering and I didn't see that ending and it wasn't useful
2) mathematically we were unlikely to find a mafioso
3) I have a useful ability which will really help in the endgame.
 
Firstly, apologies for the lack of contact - at first it was due to my stag do and the consequences of that, then dealing with a knacked back has kind of left me a little less than capable over the last 48 hours - and restricted my participation (until you've had a bad back, don't underestimate the effect it has on you!).

Anyway, just for reference, anyone pointing their finger at me needs their head checked. Look at my final votes: two mafia lynched and one vote in self-defence. I should be judged based on my actions (apart from my injury-based recent absence, of course).

As for opposing the extension being scum behaviour, I'd point out that Egon, a townie also opposed it. Personally, by the time I was even aware of it all, I was lying flat on my back reading it on my phone, trying not to move very much.

Here's my current take:
Pudney: Fairly confident he is town. I think Pudney is town, based on his opposition to K1LLSW1TCH early on in the game - it was the kind of argument that could lead to a lynch-mob forming, so I don't think it was made up - and it made me think one of them was mafia - which was proved accurate when I voted for K1LLSW1TCH.
Leprechaun321: Unsure, possible bad guy. At first I felt a kinship with him - based on the fact we were both on the receiving end of shorttricky's niggles. That niggle was completely wrong with me, but I can't just assume it was wrong both times - his defence of me was unexpected and felt like deflection to draw the attention away from himself and get people talking about me? Unsure.
Chriscubed: Unsure, leaning towards town. The fact he was going for me so much on day one is suspicious (seeing as I know I'm town), but he has been very quiet since. I have since indicated that I felt his heartfelt defence of himself was indicative of being a townie. Look at both of the mafia lynchings - at a certain point the target just kind of ..... gave up defending themselves. I noticed this in previous games too. Finally, our argument was quite heated - I think he would have waited a night or two then off'ed me.
Shamikebab: Unsure, possible bad guy. I leapt to Shamikebab's defence repeatedly on day one and even initiated a vote against iviv on the basis of his attacks as I felt they were contrived. Since then, he's taken over the role of trying to control the process - which is what he railed against to start with - effectively becoming the pushy person he didn't like on day one.

Finally, I have no special abilities - and it feels like I'm the only one here!
 
Pudney if you have a useful ability you should probably share it, saying you have one will surely just make you a mafia target :p

Pookie, if I am a possible bad guy explain why I voted early on for both Brabbinho and Killswitch? I was loud yesterday because frankly most of you seem to have given up for various reasons, silence means we lose it's as simple as that.
 
Pudney if you have a useful ability you should probably share it, saying you have one will surely just make you a mafia target :p

Pookie, if I am a possible bad guy explain why I voted early on for both Brabbinho and Killswitch? I was loud yesterday because frankly most of you seem to have given up for various reasons, silence means we lose it's as simple as that.

It's actually more of a benefit if I don't share it. It's pretty useless if it gets shared.
 
Ok, we'll have to take your word for it and hope the mafia don't kill you. I'm not sure why you've just said that if you weren't going to share it though, that's just painting a target on your head surely :confused:
 
Pookie, if I am a possible bad guy explain why I voted early on for both Brabbinho and Killswitch? I was loud yesterday because frankly most of you seem to have given up for various reasons, silence means we lose it's as simple as that.
I don't think voting early is a big difference to voting at any other time, in fact - especially bearing in mind that, especially at the start of the week, having three votes against you was quite common! It's your sudden u-turn in attitude as much as anything else that has brought you forward in my attention - you're doing exactly what you accused chriscubed and iviv of doing. Over-bearing and claiming those who don't do what you think they should is being anti-town.

That said, based on my 2v2 suspicions (2 townies and 2 potential baddies on my radar), if I had to choose someone to string up right now, it would be you, Leprechaun321.
 
The reason I asked that question yesterday is that I'm not sure if say Chris is mafia but Killswitch messages the nightkill in, does it say Chris went anywhere in the night? Honestly I don't know and without that information it makes the results pretty useless.

I've also asked this question before when Psymonkee revealed his role. Is this something you can clarify Jedit? If you are reading this of course?
 
Chris has been pretty quiet too, going from one of the most active members in day 1/2 to very, very quiet in the last few days.

Sorry I haven't been very active over the last few days, was my son's 1st birthday yesterday and his party the day before that. Also I had stepped back a little to allow other discussion to flourish.

The reason I asked that question yesterday is that I'm not sure if say Chris is mafia but Killswitch messages the nightkill in, does it say Chris went anywhere in the night? Honestly I don't know and without that information it makes the results pretty useless.

I've also asked this question before when Psymonkee revealed his role. Is this something you can clarify Jedit? If you are reading this of course?

I don't think this helps my cause, but my understanding is that one scum is sent to do the kill. I'm guessing they wouldn't have sent K1LLSW1TCH to do the kill though as he was more important with the roleblocker role as well.

At the risk of "omgwiki" - http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Night-kill Would be good to get confirmation from Jedi though.

Wiki said:
Once during each Night, A MEMBER of the faction (Mafia, Werewolves, or Serial Killer, usually) may be dispatched to kill a player.
 
OK. As a confirmed townie with no hidden agenda or special ability I'll give you my take on things.

Shami - I agree with some of the comments that have been made by Pookie as the same thoughts had crossed my mind about his style of play, in fact I believe I mentioned this in my analysis yesterday before my untimely demise. However if he is scum he is playing it very well as the majority of his actions have been pro town. Probable Town

Chris - He's stated his reasons for being quieter however his game style has changed a lot since the beginning. Since the 'execution' (I like that word :p) of Brabbinho... taking it a bit easier since then? A low profile? He is also the only remaining player who did not vote for both of the confirmed mafioso! He is probably the most 'obvious' target based on this evidence. Possible Scum

Leprechaun - Has been a bit all over the place and comes across as the guiltiest player in the most unintentional way, unless however that is the genius of it all. Possible scum

Pudney - Started pointing the fingers last night at the two players (imo) who were the most active in hunting scum when there were clearly more obvious targets, but was just as willing to jump on the Psymonkee bandwagon. Can't really decide his allegiance though. Netural

Pookie - I have the less information on Pookie than anyone else and I wasn't sure why that was, after a quick check of the post counts he has contributed far less than any other of the remaining players. Not exactly pro-town, but then we've been down that road before without much success. Therefore he is neutral

The two I believe to be the most likely scum candidates are Chris and Leprechaun.
 
Chris - He's stated his reasons for being quieter however his game style has changed a lot since the beginning. Since the 'execution' (I like that word :p) of Brabbinho... taking it a bit easier since then? A low profile? He is also the only remaining player who did not vote for both of the confirmed mafioso! He is probably the most 'obvious' target based on this evidence. Possible Scum

The two I believe to be the most likely scum candidates are Chris and Leprechaun.

I've previously explained why I didn't vote for Brab. I was out, but reading the forum with the intention to vote when I got home, then 2 votes were cast within 5 minutes of each other. In fact, looking back at it, Pookie brought down the hammer when Psy had just posted he would think about it for a few minutes. Might be worth looking at again, post number 704.

I have since been involved in K1LLSW1TCH's demise and vote, I didn't just hop on the bandwagon.
 
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