Make cannabis a Class A Drug, say Conservative Police Commissioners...

[imtoooldforthis]

Causes mental illness though

In a small amount of cases of people who smoke it heavily

No weed is gateway drug. People think its okay then they cash converters pawning the telly for crack

You’ve never actually taken drugs before have you ? Yet you seem to be an expert on their effects lol.

Millions of people smoke weed, barely any of them turn into crackheads.

I would call you a boomer but even boomers aren’t this out of touch.

 

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The increase in drug problem(s) in the US is much more centered around Meth and Fentanyl than weed. The US has a serious problem with opiod's.

Yes, most of the US's drug problems are centred around the pharmaceutical companies that set out to deliberately get people addicted to opioid painkillers.

 

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In a small amount of cases of people who smoke it heavily



You’ve never actually taken drugs before have you ? Yet you seem to be an expert on their effects lol.

Millions of people smoke weed, barely any of them turn into crackheads.

I would call you a boomer but even boomers aren’t this out of touch.

Boomers are too busy killing themselves with alcohol, seen enough of that first hand. It's ****ing grim seeing someone die from alcohol addiction.

Had a close family member/friend lose someone to alcohol in each of the past two years. Both were a horrendous burden on the NHS for the years running up to finally expiring due to their entirely self-inflicted poor health.

Our **** mental health services partly to blame for sure, but alcohol is a scourge.

 

[Deleted member 77746]

Alcohols got some serious consequences long term but people will be people.

 

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Alcohols got some serious consequences long term but people will be people.

If you take the 'people will be people' line, and accept that people will use psychoactive substances, logically you should legalise and tax the drugs that are least addictive, and do the least harm. Particularly psychedelics like MDMA, Psilocybin which are increasingly proving to be a benefit to people's health now that the sixties moral panic over them has subsided and research is resuming.

All prohibition of these substances does is criminalise people unnecessarily, feed organised crime and cause preventible deaths.

 

[Deleted member 77746]

If you take the 'people will be people' line, and accept that people will use psychoactive substances, logically you should legalise and tax the drugs that are least addictive, and do the least harm. Particularly psychedelics like MDMA, Psilocybin which are increasingly proving to be a benefit to people's health now that the sixties moral panic over them has subsided and research is resuming.

All prohibition of these substances does is criminalise people unnecessarily, feed organised crime and cause preventible deaths.

Agreed.

 

[Tuppy_Glossop]

Ben Elton's "High Society" is a great analysis of the whole discussion in story format. Definitely worth a read.

e: missing space

 

[[Death]]

No to legalisation from me.After being in vegas and then New York over the summer, where it is now fully legal . Everywhere absolutely stinks. Hard to get away from the stench.

 

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Is the UK sleepwalking into a lethal US-style opioid drugs crisis?

Warning that drugs so potent a ‘grain of sand’ dosage can be fatal could spark a US-style drug deaths crisis

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Surely this can be addressed by making it class A… Oh. Maybe not.

Time for a new category of self-righteous moral indignation to placate those who want to brush this under the carpet?

Class A+ ?

 

[Wizzkidy]

No to legalisation from me.After being in vegas and then New York over the summer, where it is now fully legal . Everywhere absolutely stinks. Hard to get away from the stench.

You seriously don't want it legalised due to a smell? Can you not deal with a bit of a smell? Does it harm you to smell it? Does it cause you any pain what so ever to smell a bit of weed? Jesus some people, Of course there is extreme circumstances like if someone is chuffing outside your house window, this makes sense but even then, its a bloody smell it's not going to kill you.

 

[[Death]]

a bit? go take a trip to vegas or nyc......you have no idea unless you have been there lol. It stinks, Not slightly, and its everywhere , You cant escape the smell. It would end up the same in the uk........., How about people just stay off the stuff.

 

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a bit? go take a trip to vegas or nyc......you have no idea unless you have been there lol. It stinks, Not slightly, and its everywhere , You cant escape the smell. It would end up the same in the uk........., How about people just stay off the stuff.

So what?

I’ve been to those places, and others where it is legal. And many where it’s not, including the UK, where it also “stinks”. I don’t smoke. It’s not a problem.

 

[[Death]]

awesome, lets support the brain dead potheads!

 

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awesome, lets support the brain dead potheads!

Let’s

No one is suggesting people who smoke weed should be “supported”.

 

[Hotwired]

There's already a stink of weed down streets of higher density residential accommodation.

I can't honestly say I look forward to a greater occurrence of this lingering stench or the excuses that it's a worthy price to pay.

Couldn't care less about its legality, someone who is employed to be accountable for a risk assessment can decide that.

 

[Devilman]

awesome, lets support the brain dead potheads!

So it's not really about the smell at all is it?

It's about your pre-judging people who smoke weed as "brain dead potheads".

Sounds like a YOU problem.

Also for reference, I was in Vegas a couple months ago and it did not even remotely "stink" of weed, you're exaggerating.

 

[uksoldierboy]

Cannabis smokers like the smell.
Non smokers hate the smell..shocker.

I'm in the latter camp, I'm yet to met a Cannabis user that doesn't smell like a skip fire.
Even on a good day it's a putrid stench of Cannabis, Joop and a little Lynx Africa.

What you take/smoke in your own home is up to you of course, but I'd rather not have to smell it constantly outside when I'm out in the park with my children or walking through the village etc.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Cannabis smokers like the smell.
Non smokers hate the smell..shocker.

Funnily enough, just like smokers when they give up, when Cannabis users stop smoking it they seem to hate the smell more than non smokers
That's my experience.

 

[sidimmu]

Cannabis smokers like the smell.
Non smokers hate the smell..shocker.

I'm in the latter camp, I'm yet to met a Cannabis user that doesn't smell like a skip fire.
Even on a good day it's a putrid stench of Cannabis, Joop and a little Lynx Africa.

What you take/smoke in your own home is up to you of course, but I'd rather not have to smell it constantly outside when I'm out in the park with my children or walking through the village etc.

Would you prefer if they smoked it indoors with their children?

Funnily enough, just like smokers when they give up, when Cannabis users stop smoking it they seem to hate the smell more than non smokers
That's my experience.

Depends on type of people, ive met others who have given up but love the smell still and others that dont smoke but love the smell.
Most people since they give up force themselves to have a negative reaction to anything to do with it to maintain their sobriety.

 

[uksoldierboy]

Funnily enough, just like smokers when they give up, when Cannabis users stop smoking it they seem to hate the smell more than non smokers
That's my experience.

Exactly that.

Would you prefer if they smoked it indoors with their children?

Not sure how to answer this.. I'd imagine if a parent's thought process was "well I can't smoke this outside anymore, so I'll have to smoke it indoors with my kids" they have bigger issues at hand, like being an utterly **** parent.

I'd rather they grow a spine, and not smoke it at all.