Make your own Aurora.

While some people did get a little out of hand in places (though not everyone), they did have a point.
Mayhems should've been a little more professional and diplomatic with his posts and this could've been avoided.
 
DataVampire said:
People got there posts deleted becuase they was openly attacking mayhjems. and rightly so. if people want to make nasty comments delete there accounts, these forums are all about helping each other, not acting like 5 year olds and starting flame wars, and most of the comments people only made to jump on the band wagon.

Just my opinion
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Openly attacking? "Nasty" comments? My exact words were "oh dear Mayhems, poor form." and it got deleted.

I have nothing against him/them at all and have bought stuff from their site in the past, but to put it simply his response in this thread was unacceptable and I won't be buying from him/them again.
 
Uh oh I missed this... So OP has revealed how Mayhems Aurora works, Mayhems rep is trying to scare people into buying the proper fluid by saying that the OPs method is a bad idea without proper justification for that opinion, then people picked up on this, he then got defensive but still didn't explain (re-enforcing the opinion that it is indeed how it works), then some fights broke out, then the mods came in and cleaned it all up? :p

Fab.
 
Acme said:
Uh oh I missed this... So OP has revealed how Mayhems Aurora works, Mayhems rep is trying to scare people into buying the proper fluid by saying that the OPs method is a bad idea without proper justification for that opinion, then people picked up on this, he then got defensive but still didn't explain (re-enforcing the opinion that it is indeed how it works), then some fights broke out, then the mods came in and cleaned it all up? :p

Fab.
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Pretty much, and a few bans were handed out (including myself) I may of overly aggressively worded it, but I was just expressing an opinion, but oh well, its done, and just 1 angry little guy dosen't represent Mayhems as a company.
 
Nope he never showed how it works or is made. What he's done is as some ones put, used make-up or i called it a alternative product to put in your system and yes there is Youtube vids doing it so its nothing new.

Damage wise it screws up your pumps big time and will imbalance impellers as the partials are way to big and off set pump heads (sorry no scare tactics involved just pure fact), it will also clog your blocks because the particles are to big.

If op would like to see how Aurora is really made he can come up to darlo where ill show him, Nothing is as simple as it look some times.
 
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Mayhems said:
Nope he never showed how it works or is made. What he's done is as some ones put, used make-up or i called it a alternative product to put in your system and yes there is Youtube vids doing it so its nothing new.

Damage wise it screws up your pumps big time and will imbalance impellers as the partials are way to big and off set pump heads (sorry no scare tactics involved just pure fact), it will also clog your blocks because the particles are to big.

If op would like to see how Aurora is really made he can come up to darlo where ill show him, Nothing is as simple as it look some times.
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If you'd just said that in the first place :p
 
yup could have ! just didn't have the time (my ignorance at the end of the day). If the op puts a microscope on and looks at the impeller before testing and after testing he will see the damaged caused. We've seen this happen. If you think about it, water is used as part of a cutting agent so when you add stuff to water you need to reduce or even eliminate the cutting effect via various methods.
 
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Damage wise it screws up your pumps big time and will imbalance impellers as the partials are way to big and off set pump heads (sorry no scare tactics involved just pure fact), it will also clog your blocks because the particles are to big.
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Interesting, thanks :)
 
Mayhems said:
Nope he never showed how it works or is made. What he's done is as some ones put, used make-up or i called it a alternative product to put in your system and yes there is Youtube vids doing it so its nothing new.

Damage wise it screws up your pumps big time and will imbalance impellers as the partials are way to big and off set pump heads (sorry no scare tactics involved just pure fact), it will also clog your blocks because the particles are to big.

If op would like to see how Aurora is really made he can come up to darlo where ill show him, Nothing is as simple as it look some times.
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I'll take you up on that as soon as its convenient :)
 
I work in a large production factory building glass fused to steel tanks. I'm currently in charge of milling the glass and it's preparation. We use di water as part of the milling process and it is indeed used as part of a cutting agent when milling. We also add various chemicals and minerals in different procedures...I can tell you from a professional stand point that whilst the Mayhems rep maybe was a little tough in his first postings he is right in his posts regarding the dangers of using such mixtures with your very finely tuned pumps and blocks.

It is indeed a very technical process of making a suitable fluid suitable for a loop. I have made such a fluid myself using certain compounds from the lab and with the help of r and d. However I won't disclose any of it purely on the basis that I don't have enough technical knowledge on it.

Whilst it is great that someone wishes to share their experiments and experience with us, I feel he should have had some obligation to not mislead others wanting to try this by saying it is as safe or as good as aurora. How could it be? You simply don't have the technical experience knowledge or laboratory to test this properly.

Sorry for my long post...just my two cents :/
 
I would imagine that if you looked at Aurora under a microscope and looked at the mica particles, the Mica would be much larger in size.

fro my not too limited physics and chemistry experience I would further imagine that using Titanium dioxide coated mica would be akin to using very fine liquid sandpaper on the inside of your loop; so while initially it wouldn't look like any damage had been done; over time you'll get pock marks in your impeller blades from the eddies in the liquid.
 
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I would imagine that if you looked at Aurora under a microscope and looked at the mica particles, the Mica would be much larger in size.

For my not too limited physics and chemistry experience I would further imagine that using Titanium dioxide coated mica would be akin to using very fine liquid sandpaper on the inside of your loop; so while initially it wouldn't look like any damage had been done; over time you'll get pock marks in your impeller blades from the eddies in the liquid.
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You are not wrong in your assumption, Yes i may have been a bit brash in my statement at the beginning how ever ive got 25 years experience in liquid cooling and 6 years in formulating nano fluids and we know and have seen the real damage it does and its long term effect. Those who diss and try and come up with potty ideas that were worried about sales are so out of touch its quite funny as Aurora sales account for less than 0.1% of sales and literally we could drop the range tomorrow and it still would not impact on us, but that is not really of importance what is, is knowledge and real understanding.

Peace out, have fun and relax :). You now have your real answer and OP has a golden ticket to the chocolate factory.
 
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You are not wrong in your assumption, Yes i may have been a bit brash in my statement at the beginning how ever ive got 25 years experience in liquid cooling and 6 years in formulating nano fluids and we know and have seen the real damage it does and its long term effect. Those who diss and try and come up with potty ideas that were worried about sales are so out of touch its quite funny as Aurora sales account for less than 0.1% of sales and literally we could drop the range tomorrow and it still would not impact on us, but that is not really of importance what is, is knowledge and real understanding.

Peace out, have fun and relax :). You now have your real answer and OP has a golden ticket to the chocolate factory.
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Nice, I'm pleased that 14 years on from school I don't appear to have lost all of my knowledge.

I'm not surprised that Aurora makes up such a small part of your sales; since it's such a specialist liquid. It's amazing it's even financially viable to produce it!

I wish I could come look around; it sounds like an awesome experience!
 
Deathjester said:
I would imagine that if you looked at Aurora under a microscope and looked at the mica particles, the Mica would be much larger in size.
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Everything looks bigger under a microscope, doesn't it? :p
Sorry, couldn't let that one go!

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OP has a golden ticket to the chocolate factory.
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But will bad things happen to him when he falls into the Aurora river, or demands to sample the Chameleon? Will there also be lots of Oompa-Loompa musical numbers... and will it be posted on YouTube? :D
 
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haha none of the above. i think the magic is just in our minds.
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as we have your attention here...

can i use the aurora additives in none aurora fluid?

I have gigabyte orange pastel fluid can i add the silver and gold to the fluid?
Also how long can you run this stuff for and it be safe/not block up rads and blocks?
 
You can use it in most fluids how ever the use of it still follows under our simple guide lines.

1) Use pump at full speed if possible.
2) Do not use with Bay res.
3) NEVER not use it in a all "in one system" AIO.
4) Use with a tube res for best effect.
5) Try to keep the system as simple as possible e.g 1 pump, res, rad, block.
6) Do not use with an exit port (particles will gather in it).
7) It will last a long time in a system if your system built around aroura not the other away around.
8) Some times things go wrong, expect that to happen and you wont be disappointed. Using Aurora is a fickle game and we will always recommend it as a show liquid only no matter how good we make it or how some ones makes it.

Aurora and any silvery type liquid is for looks and looks only. Treat it as such.
 
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In fairness, thought, why not, I have a nice bresser microscope, so got the 2 samples and put them onto slides.

Heres what I saw, sorry unfortunately the capture from the microscope isnt as good as the live view. But, feel free to guess which is which, and maybe a reason as to why?

Both are at 100x magnification.


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