McLaren and the other teams should know the rules, so not harsh at all. McLaren and Hamilton are doing my head in this year and I was a fanboy. lAst years mistakes I could understand. This year just shows a total lack of the rule book and incompetence.
Malaysian GP 2009 - Race 2/17
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McLaren and the other teams should know the rules, so not harsh at all. McLaren and Hamilton are doing my head in this year and I was a fanboy. lAst years mistakes I could understand. This year just shows a total lack of the rule book and incompetence.
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do you even like f1? the idea is super fast cars, i think you should start watching rally
I still think its come down from what it was on Aus, so i think it'll close a little bit more in China, and again for Bahrain (although cant see anyones improvments being enough to overhaul the BGP cars). So as much as i think Button will storm this years championship, Spain is going to be the key - if they can take the car there and still hold an advantage then ill be very happy.
I'll be surprised if they storm this year. Just look at previous years. A lo of teams that control the first half of the season. Struggle in teh 2nd half and as such finish bunched up.
But then again, they say they have new aero on it's way, so they might just storm it.
Super fast cars?
Really?
Last I checked the safety car was faster in the wet ...
AND the F1 cars are not as fast as they could be
Remove some of the "slow-down" measures, but also make them try to make cars more derivable in the wet.
But why would teams bother making such catastrophic changes to their cars to cater for such conditions every 2/3 years, that just doesnt make sense.
Not to sound harsh, but are you for real?
Hardly any sports car would be able to go round sensibly in those conditions, let alone an F1 car. Even today the safety car was apparently struggling. And forget about handling, what could you implement that would totally eliminate spray, which is another issue completely?
Deluges as bad as today hardly ever happen, and there wouldn't of been a problem if the race organisers had listened to the locals and not bowed to international TV times.
The fact that in past seasons races at Fuji and the Nurburgring could carry on (albeit under safety car) shows just how bad it was.
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So should Race Control
they had lap 32 order displayed for over an hour before changing it 30 seconds before podium...Though I must agree that it does seem that someone at McLaren should think about sitting down and learning the rulebook
.Look at the history of F1, we have had such different and crazy cars in the sport historically ... where different designers and engineers took completely different approaches to the cars, designed them with many different things in mind.
Some teams and designers will feel that the car being able to run in any weather will be important, other's will make a car that is good in the dry, but fails in the wet, other's will make cars that are amazing in the warm, other's in the cold..
Now say the races were designed to test all of the above throughout the season, say we had the British GP in April (when it might rain), moved a few other races around ... what would happen? well either you run a compromise car that can do it all (though the car can of course be tuned to specific conditions present during a GP weekend), or you run a car that is only good at some events ... you pick what is the best way to get to the championship.
Right now the biggest fundamental difference between the F1 cars is the diffuser on 3 teams (and the suspension on the Red Bull - but even that is possibly being changed) - yes I know every car is different, but we not have anything totally out of there like some of the things that were around in the past.
Right, firstly I never said that today falls under any of the conditions I mentioned, however Fuji certainly does. If the safety car can go round the track (while not being specifically designed to be an all out racer), then an F1 car (since it is the "pinnacle of motorsport") should be able to go round the same track ... and if it can go round that track, well then we don't need the SC and can go racing.
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and so they should, as the race might of carried on. Although some one should have thought about working it out, as it was a large possibility it wouldn't carry on and inform the teams/press.So should Race Control
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They might be the fastest motorsport car, but they are not the pinnacle as they could be even faster. Much like today's rally cars, they could all be a lot faster (Group B anyone?)
So you want F1 cars to have the same ride height as a road car?
And on your points about 'pinnacles', are you not forgetting the reason things were reigned in with both F1, Rallying etc. was safety?
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The flaw in your argument is that F1 cars can currently run in most conditions, apart from extreme wet situations that happen once a year or once every 2 years. (British rain is nothing compared to such a monsoon, F1 cars are fine in such weather) My point is why would they bother catering for the 95th percentile, answer they dont and wont. Your argument is moot.
I want F1 cars to have fewer restrictions placed on them and have the season throw all sorts of curve balls with respect to race conditions so that different teams take different approaches to their cars.
As for safety, why limit power, why not instead go down the route of "car must survive impact at xxx speed against a concrete wall" .. then leave the teams to work it out .. if the car can survive the impact it does not matter if it has 1000bhp and is doing 150mph or has 300bhp and is doing 150mph.
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He doesn't understand and is probably even trolling.
Although I agree f1 cars should be faster. The rules need relaxing by about 10 belt bucle notches. he rules are so tight all i takes is money and time to get the aero. The rules should be so relaxed new driver aids and engines can be designed, Including things like fuel cells and body work and size rules so relaxed, that cars look ultra different and you will get vastly different designs,
Think you need to watch Wacky Races for that, or at least F1 re-runs from the 70's/80's.
I seriously doubt F1 will ever see such openness to car design. The fact that it used to happen and doesn't anymore should be telling.
The restrictions are in place for safety and passing reasons, weather conditions are irrelevant or (minimal) to the regulations. Im really not sure you want F1 to be F1, just watch rally! I agree, Id like less regulations personally but your weather argument is ridiculous.