Malaysian Grand Prix 2014, Kuala Lumpur - Race 2/19

Great early lap, as said all along, Rosberg can be faster all through practice, in Q1/q2, but Q3 is where Hamilton steps up. For 5 years Hamilton will push one sector but ease off in others, then put together the entire lap 9 out of 10 times in Q3 when he needs to. Alonso does similar. Vettel is fast but he has a habit of going all out in every session.

Rosberg can be very fast but he's no where near as consistent at Hamilton. button/Mclaren, kind of stupidity that caused Hamilton to leave. Fact is if the track did speed up and warrant a inter, they had time to bank a lap on wet tyres and then come in. Why on earth would you do the whole session on inters with the hope that in 8 minutes the track might be faster on inters... insane and stupid tactical decision there.
 
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General opinion from the ex drivers seems to agree now that Alonso left a huge freaking door open and Alonso just wasn't expecting anyone to be there. I'd be disappointed if Kvyat got a penalty for that and I think it seemed a bit lazy from Alonso. If you take a weird line and go slow you can expect someone to think you're letting them pass you. In these conditions where you can't see people behind you doing it is even more stupid, then taking a wide line then cutting the corner crazy tight for no reason compounded the issue. If he'd continued around the corner wide there probably wouldn't be a problem.


Also agree with them on Bottas's supposed blocking. It may have been an outlap but it was the very end of one and went into a hot lap. He was full speed into and out of the final corner to start the hotlap as fast as possible. it can't possibly be Bottas's fault that his car has poor traction in the final corner and Riccy can't expect someone to pull over in that part of the track leading in to a hotlap. Down the straight or anywhere before that, sure, but into/out of the final corner, not a chance.
 
WTF are you smoking DM?

Alonso's mistake wasn't in leaving the door open, but in closing the door. It was an outlap. You're not racing. Kyvat went so hot into the corner that it wouldn't have made much difference if Alonso had just sailed around the outside (as the cars ahead of him did). Kyvat still would have hit him. It is nearly always the responsibility of the driver behind to avoid a collision - even more so when you're just on a warm-up lap.

Bottas balked another driver's lap. Ricciardo had to come out of the final corner tight and it compromised his time. Fact. The only mitigating circumstance is the poor weather and that the teams were all chaotic. It should be a nailed on penalty.
 
Warm up lap is for a race, you have no reason to fight for track position because you start from the same spot, you're also not allowed to. An outlap is NOT a warm up lap nor anything close to it. People fight for track position all the time. Vettel being slow into the final corner let Rosberg take him in the corner and get another lap in while Vettel missed out, Vettel didn't complain about being blocked.

Alonso went extra wide which is often taken as an indication that you are letting someone through. Kvyat wasn't that hot into the corner, he was making it and Alonso could have slowed till he was passed.

The simple fact is that with low visibility and when people absolutely do play for track position, taking an odd line and going overly slow is an invitation for someone to pass.

As for bottas, again you're talking nonsense, it's NOT about if he blocked him or not, it's about if Bottas had the right to. If two guys are on an outlap the guy in front even if slower has absolutely zero reason to let the faster guy pass, nor do the rules/laws of the sport suggest he should. A "fast lap" isn't really a fast lap, if you don't take the last corner at race pace, you won't be fast down the straight. A fast lap therefore effectively starts at the end of the previous straight. From that point on if Bottas is gearing up for a fast lap he doesn't and shouldn't have to pull out of the way. It's bad luck not actual blocking.

If Bottas didn't get out of the way on the second last corner, which would have hurt Riccy's lap but would have in no way effected Bottas's fast lap then it would be blocking, as Bottas starts his fast lap it's bad luck, nothing more or less.
 
If I was Kivyat I'd definitely thought Alonso was leaving the door open for me to come past on the inside.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Alonso went extra wide which is often taken as an indication that you are letting someone through. Kvyat wasn't that hot into the corner, he was making it and Alonso could have slowed till he was passed.
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He went as wide as everyone else ahead of him. It's all down to Kvyat's inexperience.


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As for bottas, again you're talking nonsense, it's NOT about if he blocked him or not, it's about if Bottas had the right to. If two guys are on an outlap the guy in front even if slower has absolutely zero reason to let the faster guy pass, nor do the rules/laws of the sport suggest he should. A "fast lap" isn't really a fast lap, if you don't take the last corner at race pace, you won't be fast down the straight. A fast lap therefore effectively starts at the end of the previous straight. From that point on if Bottas is gearing up for a fast lap he doesn't and shouldn't have to pull out of the way. It's bad luck not actual blocking.

If Bottas didn't get out of the way on the second last corner, which would have hurt Riccy's lap but would have in no way effected Bottas's fast lap then it would be blocking, as Bottas starts his fast lap it's bad luck, nothing more or less.
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I never once said he blocked him. Ricciardo was coming to the end of a fast lap, Bottas on a slow lap about to start a flying lap. You only have to look at the pictures - had Ricciardo taken the optimum line, he would have collided with Bottas. That he couldn't shows as clear as day could possibly be that his lap was compromised.
 
Lopéz said:
BBC commentary is really poor. Edwards doesn't even look like he's watching the timings.
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Poor? It's ******* diabolical. Thankfully I shall be driving back from my gran's place tomorrow morning so I'll be listening to the race on R5L and won't be subjected to the unmitigated disaster of BBC1's 'coverage' of the race.
 
I dont think it was ever in doubt that the RBR was quick. It was unreliable. I imagine Mercedes were planning on racking up a chunk of points before RBR sorted it out, so yes, i expect they are looking over their shoulders nervously.
 
RBR have been lucky with the weather though surely if it was the usual high temps I would expect them to be suffering a bit more than they currently are!

Shame the williams seems to lack the downforce for the wet, hope they can have a good race tomorrow from their middle order locations!
 
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