Poll: Malaysian Grand Prix 2016, Kuala Lumpur - Race 16/21

Rate the 2016 Malaysian Grand Prix out of ten


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Maybe he forgot to turn it back down from 11 while he was trying to make the pit stop gap? I can't remember where i heard or saw it but when they are turned up to qualifying mode they can only use it so long before over heating issues occur... 3 laps rings a bell??
 
Can't imagine that would be the sort of thing you can forget. You can probably feel the extra performance. Simply used it too long on the hottest race of the year more like I would say. Took a risk and it didn't pay off.
 
Can't imagine that would be the sort of thing you can forget. You can probably feel the extra performance. Simply used it too long on the hottest race of the year more like I would say. Took a risk and it didn't pay off.

That's what i thought and it would definitely be something the team would monitor i guess. Lewis just strikes me more of a jump in and go and not care about settings too much rather than a Vettel that understands every button and mode and plays his steering wheel like a piano during the race to eek everything out of the car. :D
 
That's what i thought and it would definitely be something the team would monitor i guess. Lewis just strikes me more of a jump in and go and not care about settings too much rather than a Vettel that understands every button and mode and plays his steering wheel like a piano during the race to eek everything out of the car. :D

Maybe Lewis should ask Nico how he operates the modes :D
 
There is no doubt that driving the Merc does make it easier when starting down the grid or having to recover but what has that really got to do with it? You can balance out Hamilton starting at the back at Spa and lucking in to the SC and Rosberg being punted at this race and lucking in to it being a track with massive straights to easily move back up through the pack. Yet Hamilton has had numerous more problems over Rosberg yet is, all things considered, only a small number of points behind. So yes, I consider it a testament to Hamilton that in the 'normal' races he has quite comprehensively beaten Rosberg in identical machinery and thus keeping him in with a chance of the WDC.

the amount of times hamilton has started at the back is more irrelevant because of how weak the field is currently in comparison.

This race is an example of why (in one sense) Hamilton should be thankful - the more times he gets to start at the back (and make his way through the field "at his leisure" with fresh parts ) far less likely for him to lose points from an errant Ferrari as Rosberg did this race.

Any other year (excluding the last two I guess, as Merc was as strong then) and he would be MUCH further behind in the championship because of starting at the back of the grid so many times

Anyway... has anyone mentioned that this was JB's 300th GP?

Just a real pity he has been in a **** car for so long (or rather a well engineered car but with a carp engine) otherwise it would REALLY be a milestone to remember/celebrate
 
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What a milestone for Jenson in reaching 300 GPs. Now there is a guy that has seen some amount of changes in the crazy world of F1. I personally will miss the guy, he is a breath of fresh air compared to some of the cardboard cut outs. Hope he does some TV work in F1. He would be a natural.

Watching and listening to JB since the 'sabbatical / 3rd driver' announcement has been brilliant. The pressure's clearly off and he's really enjoying himself far more. The team radio exchanges are very expressive, and the banter with the TV presenters has now been turned up to 11. I'm sure he'll be ay many races next year in some sort of sponsor capacity, but I too really hope he finds the time to do some TV work. He's excellent at it.
 
the amount of times hamilton has started at the back is more irrelevant because of how weak the field is currently in comparison.

This race is an example of why (in one sense) Hamilton should be thankful - the more times he gets to start at the back (and make his way through the field "at his leisure" with fresh parts ) far less likely for him to lose points from an errant Ferrari as Rosberg did this race.

Any other year (excluding the last two I guess, as Merc was as strong then) and he would be MUCH further behind in the championship because of starting at the back of the grid so many times

What a completely daft thing to say, it's irrelevant, because by the time he gets near the front Rosberg has a 30 second lead over Hamilton in the same car and there is zero chance for him to get back at him? But it's irrelevant because he could get say 4th instead of 10th if the field was more competitive?

If he started from the front he has a massively better chance of winning and beating Rosberg means closing the points gap or extending his lead. Starting from the back is like a 98% chance of Rosberg extending his lead or closing the gap on Hamilton.

You also missed out something, if the field was more competitive so Hamilton had less chance of finishing say top 5... then Rosberg would also be far less likely to win when Hamilton starts at the back.

So now, Ham starts at the back, rosberg has pole, Rosberg wins, Hamilton gets 4th. Or the field is more competitive, Hamilton starts at the back and gets 9th, but Rosberg starts 3rd and ends up 5th.

In any give race if one driver starts at the front and the other starts at the back, that is a near certain decent points gain for the guy at the front. When Hamilton is starting at the back through exactly no fault of his own, calling it irrelevant is amongst the stupidest things you've said on these forums and there have been some absolute corkers from you.
 
the amount of times hamilton has started at the back is more irrelevant because of how weak the field is currently in comparison.

This race is an example of why (in one sense) Hamilton should be thankful - the more times he gets to start at the back (and make his way through the field "at his leisure" with fresh parts ) far less likely for him to lose points from an errant Ferrari as Rosberg did this race.

Any other year (excluding the last two I guess, as Merc was as strong then) and he would be MUCH further behind in the championship because of starting at the back of the grid so many times.

I don't get what the rest of the field has to do with anything? Even being as dominant as the Merc is, starting from the back is a case of damage limitation. As long as Rosberg finishes, realistically Hamilton could come second so potentially Hamilton would have lost 7 points. In practice this season though neither have recovered to second so you're looking more at a potential 10+ points lost.

All my original point was, is that Hamilton has kept in self in the running for the WDC by beating Rosberg when he gets the chance or having good recovery drives when needed. If the roles were reversed I think Rosberg would be far more than 23 points behind Hamilton.
 
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Originally Posted by FrankJH View Post
the amount of times hamilton has started at the back is more irrelevant because of how weak the field is currently in comparison.

This race is an example of why (in one sense) Hamilton should be thankful - the more times he gets to start at the back (and make his way through the field "at his leisure" with fresh parts ) far less likely for him to lose points from an errant Ferrari as Rosberg did this race.

Any other year (excluding the last two I guess, as Merc was as strong then) and he would be MUCH further behind in the championship because of starting at the back of the grid so many times.

Wasnt someone saying how racing through hot air is no good for the engines? Starting from the back of the grid is not idea because of that.

Hamiltons engine will explode more so then if he had started in pole in cold air
 
Wasnt someone saying how racing through hot air is no good for the engines? Starting from the back of the grid is not idea because of that.

Hamiltons engine will explode more so then if he had started in pole in cold air

While this is true, surely only to exacperate an existing problem, not actually to cause the issue itself as it were?

Also I would wager that given how quickly a Merc can cut through the field (from the back) they would be more spread out by the time he gets to 4-5 place so the issue you are talking about is less of an issue anyway (he wont be going striaght back into hot air right after over taking someone)

As with anyone - if any driver cant overtake x car after a certain amount of laps they drop back a few seconds to rest the tyres and rest the engine from the hot air, thats been known for years.

I believe the surprise on Sunday was it happened so quickly after LH caught up (to a back marker?) in which case I would be very surprised if there wasnt a warning before that
 
Ive got a theory

Maybe Hamilton is ghost rider (would explain the flames) last year he did as he was told and returned banished souls to hell, this year he got cocky cause of the win last year hasnt been doing his duty and so the devils now blowing his engines up
 
Did chuckle at this

"The team said on Thursday that Hamilton's engine suffered a big-end failure without warning, preceded by a loss of oil pressure at the last corner of the previous lap."

Surely the loss of oil pressure on the previous lap was a warning?? Im pretty positive a loss of oil pressure has caused F1 engines to ignite for years (admittedly it may have not been long before it happened, but they certainly got a warning)
 
Did chuckle at this

"The team said on Thursday that Hamilton's engine suffered a big-end failure without warning, preceded by a loss of oil pressure at the last corner of the previous lap."

Surely the loss of oil pressure on the previous lap was a warning?? Im pretty positive a loss of oil pressure has caused F1 engines to ignite for years (admittedly it may have not been long before it happened, but they certainly got a warning)

I would hardly call 300 yards a warning.
 
Ive got a theory

Maybe Hamilton is ghost rider (would explain the flames) last year he did as he was told and returned banished souls to hell, this year he got cocky cause of the win last year hasnt been doing his duty and so the devils now blowing his engines up

This is entirely more plausible than some of the other conspiracy theories being circulated!
 
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