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MANY MANY AMD RX 580 & VEGA 64 NOW IN STOCK!

beany_bot said:
Yup, it's a rough time to be PC gaming. I've had money set aside for months and months now for an upgrade. But I'm just not paying these prices. It's just not worth it for me. I'll keep waiting into 2018, but if it's still the same "VRM price hikes" "miners putting up prices" "GPU shortage at launch" etc etc, one thing after another. Basically if the industry can't sort itself out then I'm gone.
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Now they've all had a taste of these prices I highly doubt they'll ever return to sensible levels.
 
Gibbo said:
No, because the prices of memory on VGA rose substancially a couple of months back adding typically $30 price adder to the cost of buying 8G cards trade, so irrelevant of mining they simply now cost more as memory production lines are maxed due to manufacturing more NAND rather than VRAM for smart/mobile devices.
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The 290x is a 4... damn, I forget the exact number 438mm^2 sounds familiar, it's around that anyway. Polaris 10 is ~230mm^2, it should cost 30-40% less to produce a card, adding 30% of ONLY the memory part of that cost should still lead to a substantially cheaper card than a previous gen core that was around twice the size. Power componentry, heatsink cost, die size, much smaller bus, less layers on the PCB it's much cheaper all around. Just because the memory, which might cost £25-30 increases 30%, you're talking about the memory for the card now costing £40 rather than £30, not a card that should be ~£200 should be around ~300 still.

One of the reasons the memory price has gone up is due to the demand for cards due to mining themselves. Remove all cards sold for mining and you have more than enough memory and no increase in memory prices. The costs increasing high is entirely to do with mining combined with the consumer being too dumb to refuse to buy above rrp. Because regardless of supply, if everyone chooses to not buy above rrp, cards prices stay at rrp.
 
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beany_bot said:
they will when loads of people give up on pc gaming. pcs are in huge decline anyway. our work just switched entirely to tablets and i know other businesses doing it.
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you would be surprised, a lot of the new people to pc gaming like the MOBA/twitch crowd just pay anything for the hardware without thinking

it will harm the industry when all the enthusiasts leave though. when those people move on from pc gaming or mining crashes all the enthusiasts will be long gone and just play occasionally on a console
 
Boot_Loop said:
Gibbo when are you getting a new shipment of 8GB Nitro 580s or Pulses? I've got the money sitting there in my account ready to go.
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No idea, you'd be far better of buying the Devil card or the Nitro+ Limited card though the Nitro is down to 30 cards left, so those could be sold out today.
 
Gibbo said:
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Even better news the deal on the Powercolor Devil RX 580 has no additional mining tax as you like to call it, they are at their regular price which is marginally higher than sold at months ago due to memory price increases from a couple of months back
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What memory price increase are you referring to ?
I was looking all over the place, but only found that VRAM prices of GDDR5 and such went up in august ( source http://www.anandtech.com/show/11724/samsung-sk-hynix-graphics-memory-prices-increase-over-30-percent ) which should not hit market yet.
Might be that lack of supply already pushed those to market - does that mean the manufacturers are already able to deliver august production ? Or am i missing something ?
 
FoxEye said:
If it wasn't for mining you might reasonably expect these cards would be £200 by now.

Let's not forget the 290X was available for £240 for ages before the 480 was released.

This kind of performance should be no more than £200, if you look at past trends before mining became a thing.

I know it's not OcUK's fault. But I'm just saying these prices need to fall a lot more before they become "good deals".
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Agreed 100%. Sad times when £300 now only gets you the same performance as £300 4 years ago.

580/1060 performance should be £200 tops by now.

You could pick up AIB 480 8GB's for £200 only 6 months ago...
 
HeX said:
Agreed 100%. Sad times when £300 now only gets you the same performance as £300 4 years ago.

580/1060 performance should be £200 tops by now.

You could pick up AIB 480 8GB's for £200 only 6 months ago...
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Its so bad i was wondering how much my 7970 Ghz will sell now 5+ years old...

It gets 10-13 at mining ethereum... VEGA 64 30-34
I got it 400 euros with tax back then :(
 
PeegeeTips said:
Who cares?

Vega is good value at £450. It would be a big seller.
Vega is tolerable value at £500.

Vega is an absurd joke at £550 plus. Buy a 1080 instead.
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Emm I care. Typically AMD undercuts Nvidia. Well that hasn't happened this time and therefore prices remain high. Case in point, Nvidia haven't had to drop prices in response to Vega.

So yeah. I care. The GPU market is still a total rip off.
 
beany_bot said:
Emm I care. Typically AMD undercuts Nvidia. Well that hasn't happened this time and therefore prices remain high. Case in point, Nvidia haven't had to drop prices in response to Vega.

So yeah. I care. The GPU market is still a total rip off.
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I don't think nVidia have anything to worry about in regard to VEGA. VEGA is probably the most hyped up, yet deflating product ever IMO.
 
PeegeeTips said:
Who cares?

Vega is good value at £450. It would be a big seller.
Vega is tolerable value at £500.

Vega is an absurd joke at £550 plus. Buy a 1080 instead.
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£500 for non-reference card. Otherwise if you want to game I would stick with consoles for time being. I would never pay that sort of money for mid tier gfx card.
 
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