Marines and Paras differences?

Not here to say one is better than the other but things to consider

57% of the SAS are made up of ex paras

Para 1.5 mile run time has to be below 9 minutes 30

RM's has to be below 10 minutes 30
 
I was always of the belief that SAS are Paras - i.e. the "best of the" Paras. And the SBS the "best of the" Marines. :)
 
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Not here to say one is better than the other but things to consider

57% of the SAS are made up of ex paras

Para 1.5 mile run time has to be below 9 minutes 30

RM's has to be below 10 minutes 30

That holds little value...

If you turn up at the RM training base and get a 1.5 mile run in over 10 minutes you're unlikely to pass the course.

Wonder what % of the SBS are Marines...
 
Not here to say one is better than the other but things to consider

57% of the SAS are made up of ex paras

Para 1.5 mile run time has to be below 9 minutes 30

RM's has to be below 10 minutes 30

Crikey there is hope for us all, i'm 38 and i reckon i can do 1.5 miles in 9:30. Young lads of 18 should not find it a problem.
 
Crikey there is hope for us all, i'm 38 and i reckon i can do 1.5 miles in 9:30. Young lads of 18 should not find it a problem.

For Marines it's a 3 miler.

You do a 1.5 mile run as a troop at a moderate pace, then best effort return 1.5 mile which is what counts. I don't know if it's the same for the Paras.

There are more demanding physical tests than a 3 miler on the courses.

It's all irrelevant really though as it doesn't tell us anything about the final products.
 
For Marines it's a 3 miler.

You do a 1.5 mile run as a troop at a moderate pace, then best effort return 1.5 mile which is what counts. I don't know if it's the same for the Paras.

There are more demanding physical tests than a 3 miler on the courses.

It's all irrelevant really though as it doesn't tell us anything about the final products.

No, i agree, i'm sure i could keep up with the young lads on the 3 miler but i'm surely not in any state to complete Marine training.
 
All entry times for every regiment are 1.5 mile squadded run by 1.5 mile best effort.

Your likely to be binned from paras if you do anything over 9 minutes anyway
 
Not here to say one is better than the other but things to consider

57% of the SAS are made up of ex paras

Para 1.5 mile run time has to be below 9 minutes 30

RM's has to be below 10 minutes 30

Of that 57%, around 15% are engineers, logistics and various other regiments who are jump qualified.....so the figures are a little misleading in that respect.

The preselection of both the SAS and the SBS is the same, the SBS training and qualifying criteria however is more strenuous and generally thought to be more difficult due in part to the extended operational criteria of the SBS. Pass rates are around 5% for SBS and 8-15% for SAS.

It is generally the pathway for Royal Marines to join the SBS rather than the SAS, however when compared there have been significantly more Royal Marines in the SAS than Paras in the SBS.

One statistic to consider is that around 40% of all UKSF are sourced from the Royal Marines so if you do the Maths and consider that there are significantly fewer Marines than there are Army, what does that tell you.....

Tbh, I wouldn't hold too much stock in statistics if I were you and just concentrate on passing what is put in front of you.....
 
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That holds little value...

If you turn up at the RM training base and get a 1.5 mile run in over 10 minutes you're unlikely to pass the course.

Wonder what % of the SBS are Marines...

Anything over about 9mins and you are likely to get booted and that is after doing 1.5 in under 12....as you will soon find out...:)

I know a bunch of RM who have breezed trough the PRAC, but quite a few Paras who struggle with the PRMC. :)

If you look at what the PRAC consists of, you would have a little smile on your face tbh......a bunch of sit ups, a bunch of push ups, a 5 mile run and a couple of circuits of a steeple chase.....compare that to the PRMC, EdGey and giggle......
 
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Until the OP attends a POC at both I'm not sure he has the luxury of having a choice in the first place and the thread is all a bit irrelevant.
 
All entry times for every regiment are 1.5 mile squadded run by 1.5 mile best effort.

Your likely to be binned from paras if you do anything over 9 minutes anyway

The PRAC consists of a 3m followed by a 1.5m....however the rest of the PRAC is nowhere near the same level physically as the PRMC.
 
Anything over about 9mins and you are likely to get booted and that is after doing 1.5 in under 12....as you will soon find out...:)

I know a bunch of RM who have breezed trough the PRAC, but quite a few Paras who struggle with the PRMC. :)

If you look at what the PRAC consists of, you would have a little smile on your face tbh......a bunch of sit ups, a bunch of dips and heaves.....a 5 mile run and a couple of circuits of a steeple chase.....compare that to the PRMC, EdGey and giggle.

lol what makes you think the prac is any less than the prmc

PRAC is also 3 days and entails more running than prmc does
 
Was told while growing up that Marines were the Thinking man's soldier "Scalpel"
and the Paras were the charge in and smash soldier "Sledgehammer"

Either way i think if you join one of these regiments and pass selection you'll be proud of what you've achieved. Plenty of option with each one once your in there.

My mate joined the Marines, went all over the world loved it and when he came out joined the Australian Police force. Going for their Tactical group now. Being a Marine set him up for life.

Good luck what ever you decide.
 
lol what makes you think the prac is any less than the prmc

PRAC is also 3 days and entails more running than prmc does

I have done both.

The running is immaterial as things like the steeplechase, the gym work and the 1.5 and 5 milers are done on different days..with assessments and presentations on various things like weapons and writing an essay about your life as a civvie in between....the 1.5m and the gym work is on day one, with the 5miler on day two and the steeplechase on day 3.....the rest of the time is taken up with other non physical stuff and presentations and walk rounds....

The PRMC Will have you doing the 3 miler and the gym tests and swimming tests one the first day.....assault, obstacle and death slide courses, along with the endurance course on day two.....with a run down and all the briefing etc on day three.

For comparisons, the PRAC needs 50/50 in 4mins for push/pull up, whereas the PRMC requires 60/80 in the same period....


your opinion mine differs :)

Not my opinion, but my experience. :)
 
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Interesting read.

The endurance course is the real tester from what I've heard.

A 5% pass rate for SBS, when the vast majority of the applicants are Marines. Outrageous.

I've dropped you a line or 7.
 
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Is the RM course still have the longest basic training in the world ?

Afaik it remains the longest and toughest basic training in any armed forces.

Arguably the French Foreign Legion training is a killer psychologically, but not having experienced it I don't know whether that is simply hyperbole.
 
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