Mattresses - I need knowledge

RedMogg said:
So with the few quid left over from the sale of the Puppies, we decided it was time to replace our 10 year old Sealy Posturpedic.

We spent the bank holiday weekend visiting bed showrooms and agreed beforehand that the first salesperson that didn't harass us, as I tried each one out, would get the sale.

Benson's chap almost lost out, but our two youngest diverted his attention by finding the £15k Tempur Profiling TV bed and playing "Bed Goes Up, Bed Goes Down, TV Goes Up, TV Gets Stuck" game.

It gave me the chance to get comfy on an iGel 3500 (Benson's own brand). I have serious spine issues (4 titanium vertebrae, 5 discectomies and a cervical replacement booked for September), so I'm very, very careful about how I sleep as the wrong pressure in the wrong place can paralyse me for days.

Mattress was fantastic - we'd also tried the top end Sealy Elevate (not enough hip support), a £5k Tempur (too swampy, plus I'd want to spend five figures on the adjustable bed) and a couple from John Lewis Natural range (ridiculous prices).

The iGel range topper was the 4400 - 40cm deep and even more plush and comfy than the 3500 - it was the first time I've laid flat on a mattress and not needed two pillows under my knees.

We went to place the order: £4½k, a bit over budget, but if it lasts as well as the Sealy and the 10 year warranty isn't a sham, then we could justify it...

Then the upselling started; despite clearly stating "just give me the one figure, not x plus y plus z plus vat" - he did exactly that and I got annoyed.

I have a service dog who helps me regulate (cPTSD & Autism) - but since we were bed-shopping, I'd left her at home. When I politely tried to excuse myself and asked that he discuss the price with "The Boss", he quipped "Oh, so you wear the trousers..."

I got the girls and said we'd meet my wife in the car.

15 minutes later, my wife joined us, equally cross.

Got home, had a cuppa and a snuggle with the dog on my sofa, Google-Fu'd the iGel 4400i Zip-Link SuperKing, found it brand new & sealed for £1075 delivered, ordered it for delivery today.

It arrived an hour ago and after a bit of swearing, managed to wrestle the mattresses onto our old bed frame (new one arriving next week) and I did my favourite meditation exercise of adding the new 800TC bedding (we also bought 45cm deep fitted sheets in the M&S sale)...





I think one side of my Bell's Palsied face says it all...
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How are you getting on with this mattress now? We've just been to Bensons and both liked the feel of the iGel 4000 but sceptical about buying from there after hearing/reading bad reviews/comments. Where did you manage to buy it from? My google-fu is pants at the moment!
 
Wizzfizz said:
You should rotate it though.

As for the 'none turn' thing, that's a load of marketing rubbish, and I would avoid buying any mattress that states this. The reason why you turn a mattress over every few weeks, is to make it last longer. A none turn mattress won't last as long as a double sided mattress.

None turn is basically the manufacturer lowering its production costs, meaning you get less for your money i.e. Quality, but still pay the premium.
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it depends tho, one of our mattresses is topped off with memory foam on 1 side so regardless of it it would benefit, we cant flip it.

touch wood ours is now over 5 years old and is still in good shape.
 
The_Arbiter said:
Most people say John Ryan, but as with everything, one size doesn't fit all so to speak.

I had to buy a foam topper as mine wasn't as comfy as everyone makes out, and it caused me shoulder issues.
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Which foam topper did you buy and is it working for you? Our John Ryan natural artisan mattress is only about 4 years old but both the wife and myself suffer from shoulder pain.
 
zom247 said:
Which foam topper did you buy and is it working for you? Our John Ryan natural artisan mattress is only about 4 years old but both the wife and myself suffer from shoulder pain.
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Emma Flip Topper. Despite all(?) current opinions with foam (and no mattress cover) i have found it slightly cooler than using just the mattress with a cotton bed sheet. I tend to be really warm sleeping, currently still using a 2.5 tog down duvet but now with throw in a old cold house.

It was a gamble between that or a new mattress. Whilst it has worked wonders i would now like to try a full foam mattress. Also if it helps, i am fully athletic and weigh nothing.

Hope that helps.
 
zom247 said:
How are you getting on with this mattress now? We've just been to Bensons and both liked the feel of the iGel 4000 but sceptical about buying from there after hearing/reading bad reviews/comments. Where did you manage to buy it from? My google-fu is pants at the moment!
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Hi,
Still loving the mattress - we bought a bamboo protector which did a great job throughout the summer, without feeling "sweaty" at any point.

It's settled nicely; no noticeable sag or dips forming.

We purchased from this seller on eBay (in fact, it's the exact same mattress he has currently in stock!): https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/39546319...EoLJLAgRXm&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

(We paid using our Amex, so we've got S.75 protection in case it's ever needed).

Happy to recommend - ours turned up well protected, but one corner of the thick polythene packaging had split and the mattress was ever so slightly grubby - it took seconds to freshen-up with a clean, damp cloth.

Be warned: it's bloody heavy!
 
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The_Arbiter said:
Emma Flip Topper. Despite all(?) current opinions with foam (and no mattress cover) i have found it slightly cooler than using just the mattress with a cotton bed sheet. I tend to be really warm sleeping, currently still using a 2.5 tog down duvet but now with throw in a old cold house.

It was a gamble between that or a new mattress. Whilst it has worked wonders i would now like to try a full foam mattress. Also if it helps, i am fully athletic and weigh nothing.

Hope that helps.
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Thanks for that. However, I think we're just going to look for a new mattress now, we bought a topper thing earlier this year and whilst it was initially ok it's just sticking a plaster on a gaping wound. Now onto the wonderful world of trying mattresses, finding something you like, reading reviews and then talking yourself out of it!
 
RedMogg said:
Hi,
Still loving the mattress - we bought a bamboo protector which did a great job throughout the summer, without feeling "sweaty" at any point.

It's settled nicely; no noticeable sag or dips forming.

We purchased from this seller on eBay (in fact, it's the exact same mattress he has currently in stock!): https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/39546319...EoLJLAgRXm&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

(We paid using our Amex, so we've got S.75 protection in case it's ever needed).

Happy to recommend - ours turned up well protected, but one corner of the thick polythene packaging had split and the mattress was ever so slightly grubby - it took seconds to freshen-up with a clean, damp cloth.

Be warned: it's bloody heavy!
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Thanks and glad you still like it. I'll take a look at the site later on.
 
After spending the day looking at beds in our area we went to 4 places and here's our favourites, in order, so far:

Sealy Elevate Blake
Hypnos Gower
iGel 4000i
iGel 3000i

Sadly, I can't seem to find too much online about the Sealy Blake mattress so not sure if it's new or EOL although it shows on the Sealy website. If anyone else can find it anywhere let me know. Wife wants to go some other places tomorrow but I'm losing the will to live, 10 mins lying on a mattress in a shop does nothing for me so the only way to truly find out if it's ok is to buy it and use it!
 
zom247 said:
10 mins lying on a mattress in a shop does nothing for me so the only way to truly find out if it's ok is to buy it and use it!
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Look at John Ryan and their knowledge hub - LINK!

Also when looking at a mattress the construction and fillings are what you want to be looking at. Here's review of the Hypnos Signature at £4k. https://johnryanbydesign.co.uk/unde...nature-mattress-review-is-it-worth-the-price/ gives you a good idea of how manufacturers avoid telling you the important facts about an expensive purchase.
 
Visited a local bed centre today and came away with another mattress we like, ice cloud 2200. It was really comfy and felt nicer than the sealy blake they had there. Can't seem to find any reviews on it though.
 
Me and the gf visited Dreams today, our favourite was the Flaxby Master's Guild 4450. I'm not sure about the pillow topper though and for similar money we could buy a John Ryan, it's just a bit worrying buying it blind.

We meant to continue at Bensons but got distracted looking at Wren kitchens for a kitchen we can't afford and aren't nearly ready to buy yet.
 
Nick1881 said:
Me and the gf visited Dreams today, our favourite was the Flaxby Master's Guild 4450. I'm not sure about the pillow topper though and for similar money we could buy a John Ryan, it's just a bit worrying buying it blind.

We meant to continue at Bensons but got distracted looking at Wren kitchens for a kitchen we can't afford and aren't nearly ready to buy yet.
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Don't JR give you a money back guarantee on mattresses if you don't get on with it?
 
We went to Bensons today, tried various beds. I actually wasn't that impressed with the Hypnos range, we preferred the iGel range, my worry is that they are still basically memory foam and my gf gets too hot in my current Tempur.

I'm still tempted to try a John Ryan, torn between the Artisan Naturals and the Tailored Pocket 2000, apparently the Naturals will be a bit softer and I think I would prefer softer.

I might pop into Furniture Village tomorrow and try some Vispring mattresses, if there is one I like I can ask John Ryan how it will compare.
 
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