Nice clean builds there guys, well done to both of ya!!! Very good airflow I like!!!!
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New Best In Maxx Mem for Hwbot DDR3 is tuned at 2933mhz GSkill TridentX.
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Thanks m8
If you want full control you will have to plug them into the non-CPU headers. I don't know why ASUS reserved BOTH CPU headers for PWM fans. It confused me for a while.standard fans - its a Noctua NH-12UP SE or whatever cooler - only come with 3 pin fans
comes with 2x120mm fans - one I have plugged into the CPU fan header, the other the CPU_OPT header
A bios update is gonna give better fan control guys. Shammy is on it now.
Hi all, i'm thinking of maybe going for this motherboard (with a i5-3570K processor), because it's smaller (mATX) so i could use a smaller case.
I have four questions :
1. is there a big temperature difference, between a small (micro-ATX) and a big (ATX) case ? How high do you manage to overclock in each type of case?
2. does the Noctua NH-C14 CPU cooler fit in a mATX case ?
edit : now i'm thinking of the Thermalright TS120, which would be a bit quieter (but a bit less efficient in terms of cooling)
edit again : but the NH-C14 might be less noisy with its Low Noise Adapter, and as it's supposed to be better quality, it might last longer in the future. I read that it's good to invest in a good CPU cooler, as it can last for several builds. So... i don't know
Anyway, would they fit in a m-ATX case ?
3. can i fit 16GB RAM, if i use the NH-C14?
3. Any other size-related problem i might bump into ?
I have four questions :
1. is there a big temperature difference, between a small (micro-ATX) and a big (ATX) case ? How high do you manage to overclock in each type of case?
2. does the Noctua NH-C14 CPU cooler fit in a mATX case ?
edit : now i'm thinking of the Thermalright TS120, which would be a bit quieter (but a bit less efficient in terms of cooling)
edit again : but the NH-C14 might be less noisy with its Low Noise Adapter, and as it's supposed to be better quality, it might last longer in the future. I read that it's good to invest in a good CPU cooler, as it can last for several builds. So... i don't know
Anyway, would they fit in a m-ATX case ?3. can i fit 16GB RAM, if i use the NH-C14?
3. Any other size-related problem i might bump into ?
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1) If the air flow is good I see no issue with this.
2) Not sure as I don't have that cooler the guys above may be able to answer this better.
3) Samsung Green is very low profile and clocks well I am sure this will fit.
4) I doubt it in a well designed case but again the guys above are better placed to answer as they own rigs in smaller cases.
Its a great board and would prove a good choice in terms of overclocking and stability.
Bigger cases usually run cooler but there are a number of factors involved. M-ATX can run very cool. My TJ08-E (which is tiny by M-ATX standards) runs almost as cool as my HAF-F Full ATX case becuase of good airflow and a very tidy layout. The 180mm intake fan on the TJ08-E is excellent at creating positive case pressure and blowing cool air directly onto the mobo and graphics. A good M-ATX case can beat an average F-ATX case by a fair margin.
I use a Noctua NH-D14 within my case and this is bigger than the C14. Juist check whatever case you get is wide enough to take the full height of the C14.2. does the Noctua NH-C14 CPU cooler fit in a mATX case ?
edit : now i'm thinking of the Thermalright TS120, which would be a bit quieter (but a bit less efficient in terms of cooling)
edit again : but the NH-C14 might be less noisy with its Low Noise Adapter, and as it's supposed to be better quality, it might last longer in the future. I read that it's good to invest in a good CPU cooler, as it can last for several builds. So... i don't know
Most definately yes. Just ensure you buy ram with standard sized heatspreaders, or low profile ram such as Samsung Green.
M-ATX cases tend to be a bit tight for multi GPU setups (not a problem for a single card). You have to be more precise with cable routing and the number of drive bays obviously reduces.
Thanks a lot for these rich answers 
For specific reasons, I might want to have up to 4 SSD disks (60GB OCZ Vertex 3 - 2.5"), so i guess this will be one of my main concerns for the case : i need 4 bays (2.5" or 3.5", as i can use 2.5" to 3.5" adaptators).
For the GPU, i MIGHT need two of them (for using 3 monitors), but they don't need to be any good, as i don't play games. Are there smaller (and cheap) "low speed" GPUs that could more easily fit on this board ?
For specific reasons, I might want to have up to 4 SSD disks (60GB OCZ Vertex 3 - 2.5"), so i guess this will be one of my main concerns for the case : i need 4 bays (2.5" or 3.5", as i can use 2.5" to 3.5" adaptators).
For the GPU, i MIGHT need two of them (for using 3 monitors), but they don't need to be any good, as i don't play games. Are there smaller (and cheap) "low speed" GPUs that could more easily fit on this board ?
2.5" disks can be squeezed into anywhere. It's amazing what a few strips Duct tape can do. I have fitted several 2.5"ers inside Micro-ITX cases (half the size of M-ATX) after all of the drive bays have been filled. 3.5" drives are the real blighters to hide. On the GPU side just get a single AMD 6xxx or 7xxx card. They can handle 3 simultaneous outputs without any problem. Just make sure the card you choose has the output types you want.Thanks a lot for these rich answers
For specific reasons, I might want to have up to 4 SSD disks (60GB OCZ Vertex 3 - 2.5"), so i guess this will be one of my main concerns for the case : i need 4 bays (2.5" or 3.5", as i can use 2.5" to 3.5" adaptators).
For the GPU, i MIGHT need two of them (for using 3 monitors), but they don't need to be any good, as i don't play games. Are there smaller (and cheap) "low speed" GPUs that could more easily fit on this board ?
Did some 2600mhz settings last night for a bit. So far done the Primary Timings as tight as possible. The others are not tuned and can come down. For MVG users the important settings to get high mhz out of this RAM stable are transmitter and receiver slew. For these dimms set transmitter slews to 3 and receiver slews to 4.
will update this as I sort secondary and third timings.
will update this as I sort secondary and third timings.
Thank you 555BUK
I found a few m-ATX cases which have 4 bays or more, i have to choose now. But it's good to know the SSDs will fit !
Fitting one graphic card which would have 3 analogue outputs would be perfect, that's a brilliant idea. But i'm not sure i can find a cheap (under £50) graphic card that would have three analogue outputs (HDMI, DVI or DisplayPort, but not VGA). I just looked a bit and didn't find any.
I don't play games so i don't need a good GPU. I think that a very cheap one with DVI and HDMI ports will do, if i also use the motherboard port.
I found a few m-ATX cases which have 4 bays or more, i have to choose now. But it's good to know the SSDs will fit !
Fitting one graphic card which would have 3 analogue outputs would be perfect, that's a brilliant idea. But i'm not sure i can find a cheap (under £50) graphic card that would have three analogue outputs (HDMI, DVI or DisplayPort, but not VGA). I just looked a bit and didn't find any.
I don't play games so i don't need a good GPU. I think that a very cheap one with DVI and HDMI ports will do, if i also use the motherboard port.
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Not sure if your on about my result here or not mate my VCCSA is 1.15 and VCCIO is 1.20 for DDR 2600 samsungs
Yeah its all about your results - really nice work on those ram modules & settings.
have you tried running them with lower VCCSA/IO or you use those values just for all of your results ? i guess you have got TridentX with Hynix ICs too ?
Thanks for sharing all the usefull info & screens which show the subs mate - i really appreciate that very much.
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I just use those settings yeah mate. I have had Ivy for a long while now and all teh Retail I have come across dont need massive VCCIO.
Yeah I have the Trident X yes. 11-13-12-25 1T at 2850all tuned for some serous Pi32mb times!!!!! Shaminos Trident X profile for around DDR 2650 with very high performance is also a great option for less good IMC CPU's. ie my 3770K which is poor in this area, Does 6ghz at low volts though but thats no good with poor IMC.
I have loads of Dimms here so any IC's you want some tuned settings for let me know.
Yeah I have the Trident X yes. 11-13-12-25 1T at 2850all tuned for some serous Pi32mb times!!!!! Shaminos Trident X profile for around DDR 2650 with very high performance is also a great option for less good IMC CPU's. ie my 3770K which is poor in this area, Does 6ghz at low volts though but thats no good with poor IMC.
I have loads of Dimms here so any IC's you want some tuned settings for let me know.
I'm not knocking your results but the "serous Pi32mb times" are pretty much down to your processor overclock.
The results you posted before showed only a small improvement with RAM above 2133MHz up to 2600MHz and virtually no improvement with anything above that.