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maxwell Titan 34% faster

Yep in fact these last couple of revisions are actually better than the previous ones in 34x family, which have been probably the least stable to date. To not throw them totally under the bus, they do eventually bounce back, but they need to do something in the next couple or months with the scaling issues as they've been present for a good number of months now.

The cards are great, but Nvidia are too focused on Tegra of late and it's starting to show through the cracks I think personally. Although it is a case of the lesser of two evils most of the time.

They're not interested in up-selling multi GPU what so ever.
 
Rroff said:
Aside from 344.75 I've had absolutely no problem with the recent drivers.
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I wouldn't expect every user to have been experiencing problems, depends also on the cards too obviously. But to add to the list Kepler performance has been suffering massively in new titles, so much so to the extent that one would be forgiven for calling it deliberate or at the least shear neglect. Also Nvidia's X99 drivers up until very recently were flagging behind the competition.

It's just somewhat small areas that influence fairly large ones if you care to spend the money to find out
 
LambChop said:
Maxwell really is a beast.
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+1,

Would love to see Nvidia approved unlocked voltage Titan to select vendors, these would be insane oc'ers, of that I have no doubt, enthusiasts would flock for them regardless the cost, as Maxwell performance/clocks/efficiency will truly come in to play.:)

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they have been awesome cards and at nearly 2 years old, they are still kicking the butt of many contenders. I would love to grab a couple of Maxwell Titans but I just can't justify it when the threee original Titans are more than enough.
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Don't believe you, no chance, you'll be watching the lads pulling the trigger @OcUK:eek: and cave in. :D:cool:
 
Silent_Scone said:
I wouldn't expect every user to have been experiencing problems, depends also on the cards too obviously. But to add to the list Kepler performance has been suffering massively in new titles, so much so to the extent that one would be forgiven for calling it deliberate or at the least shear neglect. Also Nvidia's X99 drivers up until very recently were flagging behind the competition.

It's just somewhat small areas that influence fairly large ones if you care to spend the money to find out
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You will change your tune quite fast when Big Max Titans appear and you realise that NV built their mid range 980 with a 256bit bus and only 4gb of VRAM for good reason, it is mid range and not aimed at high resolutions. Even Gibbo who has sold thousands of these cards will tell you that the 970/80 are not great at 4K.

You can blame drivers for everything but you are going to look really silly in 6 months time when things don't improve.

I have seen no statements or hints from NVidia saying we can look forward to a big improvement on the drivers front as they know the limitation is hardware and they have Big Max to address this with.

If the 970 and 980 work well with games at low resolutions but the performance drops badly when at very high resolution it is a hardware fault just like the old GTX 6xx series suffered from this for the same reason. Or should I blame the crap 4K performance I get with my GTX 690s on the drivers, nah it's a hardware limitation.:D

Also if you are curious I am very pleased with the performance of my GTX 980s but then I don't expect them to perform miracles they were never designed to do.:D
 
Gibbo saying they're not great at 4k is not definitive proof that Maxwell is memory limited. Maxwell drivers are still very much in their infancy. Nobody here has even mentioned higher resolutions, you are the one that keeps looking at paper specs and saying its hardware limited before even asking what problems people are experiencing.

You are preaching the same thing over and over without even really understanding it. Yes, there might well be a few instances where the 980 is memory starved, at least at stock above 1440p. That is not what I and others are saying. It's the same as you constantly saying X99 is 'crap'. Constant prophesies about absolutely nothing! We know you've got a 4k monitor now, welcome to the club.

Kaap, trust me. The only one making themselves look silly is you.

Constantly.


You don't even play enough games to realise there is an issue. You've said that yourself more than enough times in the past.

Oh and just for the sake of being pedantic, you can't have a 'mid range' flagship product.
 
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I have always said that the 9 series problems are at high resolution not at low resolutions where it works very well. This problem has nothing to do with drivers.

I have also criticized NVidia for not supporting games properly but this is a different issue to how the 9 series perform and has nothing to do with their poor performance @4K which is a hardware limitation.

As to X99 as a platform it is a huge disappointment for many reasons, there are plenty of people who agree with me on this too.

NVidia don't allow AIB partners to fit non ref coolers to their flagship products so 8 Pack tells me, which basically means that even NVidia are quietly saying the 980 is midrange.

Something I think you should take on board is just because you own a piece of hardware does not mean you are required to defend it's short comings blindly however bad they are.

Both the NV 9 series and X99 platform have something in common, they are both very good at some things and also bad at others, it is important to highlight both.
 
Silent_Scone said:
I'll humour you Kaap.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1528827/techspot-the-crew-benchmarked

I suppose this is a hardware limitation of Kepler then...
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I fail to see what this has to do with the hardware limitations of the 980 lol.:D

Meanwhile NV have listened to you and have put their best driver team on the case.

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:D:D:D:D
 
Kaapstad said:
I have always said that the 9 series problems are at high resolution not at low resolutions where it works very well. This problem has nothing to do with drivers.

I have also criticized NVidia for not supporting games properly but this is a different issue to how the 9 series perform and has nothing to do with their poor performance @4K which is a hardware limitation.

As to X99 as a platform it is a huge disappointment for many reasons, there are plenty of people who agree with me on this too.

NVidia don't allow AIB partners to fit non ref coolers to their flagship products so 8 Pack tells me, which basically means that even NVidia are quietly saying the 980 is midrange.

Something I think you should take on board is just because you own a piece of hardware does not mean you are required to defend it's short comings blindly however bad they are.

Both the NV 9 series and X99 platform have something in common, they are both very good at some things and also bad at others, it is important to highlight both.
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No-one is defending anything, I'm telling you the facts.

Just because something is due to be superseded in a short time frame doesn't make it a mid tier product. Being a flagship product makes it a flagship product.

In case you hadn't noticed I've owned 9 Titans in total, and 3 780Ti. All based on the same architecture, that is at the very least unnecessary (also wasteful), but what makes you think I'd want to defend anything?

I've given you an example clear as day of what I was originally talking about. Least of all skipping the fact that at 1600p the 980 is faster than Titan Black. So unless you've got something to say that isn't just you pointing at a piece of paper that says 256bit, I no longer want to hear it :D

I've heard potential rumour that Vince is working with a KPE at the moment, and I doubt it's based on GM200. So there's a little more life in the current crop than you care to believe I'm afraid
 
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Silent_Scone said:
No-one is defending anything, I'm telling you the facts.

Just because something is due to be superseded in a short time frame doesn't make it a mid tier product. Being a flagship product makes it a flagship product.

In case you hadn't noticed I've owned 9 Titans in total, and 3 780Ti. All based on the same architecture, that is at the very least unnecessary (also wasteful), but what makes you think I'd want to defend anything?

I've given you an example, clear as day of what I was originally talking about. Least of all skipping the fact that at 1600p the 980 is faster than Titan Black. So unless you've got something to say that isn't just you pointing at a piece of paper that says 256bit, I no longer want to hear it :D
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My argument has always been what the 980 does at high resolution and these days 1600p hardly falls into that category even my GTX 690s have run well at that resolution from day one.

If NVidia are prepared to let AIB partners fit non ref coolers to the 980s because they don't class it as the flagship that is good enough for me. I also fail to see why people get hung up about this either as the GTX 980 is what it is, it does it's designed for job very well and that is it.
 
It was high-er resolutions a minute ago.

Of course this still has absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about with the drivers. This is your fixation not mine. I've now grown tired of it.

Also, laugh out loud at you making the connection of letting board parters fit coolers a sign it's not a flagship. Just what are you on! Oh, Titan didn't have any so this makes it a flagship, and others not? Crumbs...
 
Silent_Scone said:
It was high-er resolutions a minute ago.

Of course this still has absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about with the drivers. This is your fixation not mine. I've now grown tired of it
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My argument has always been about high resolution performance end of.

Your argument has always been about anything you want it to be lol.
 
Silent_Scone said:
It was high-er resolutions a minute ago.

Also, laugh out loud at you making the connection of letting board parters fit coolers a sign it's not a flagship. Just what are you on! Oh, Titan didn't have any so this makes it a flagship, and others not? Crumbs...
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I think I will take 8 Packs word on this about NVidia's flagship policy.:D
 
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