MCU to "Refocus” and Disney sinking faster than the Titanic (Starwars is dead Marvel is dead)

Well done Disney you managed to make a half decent show but you really have killed the Starwars franchise. Shocking. These viewing numbers are also heavily in favour of Disney!

Star Wars needs put on a 5-10 year break. Sack your current writing teams and hire actual talent and not hacks and come out with a new trilogy not linked to OG movies.
 
Well done Disney you managed to make a half decent show but you really have killed the Starwars franchise. Shocking. These viewing numbers are also heavily in favour of Disney!

Star Wars needs put on a 5-10 year break. Sack your current writing teams and hire actual talent and not hacks and come out with a new trilogy not linked to OG movies.

I always remember the Game of Thrones.

Brilliant series totally ruined when "Holywood" took over the writing for two final (nonsensical) seasons. Goes to show that they are capable of messing stuff up even when handed to them on a plate, by believing that any old writer (or director) can do the job.
 
Well done Disney you managed to make a half decent show but you really have killed the Starwars franchise. Shocking. These viewing numbers are also heavily in favour of Disney!

Star Wars needs put on a 5-10 year break. Sack your current writing teams and hire actual talent and not hacks and come out with a new trilogy not linked to OG movies.
I haven't watched the show but the reviews suggest it's not bad. It's problem much like Andor is that it follows much noisier crap. Andor followed Kenobi which was utter turd but highly visible turd and didn't get the viewing figures it deserved. Skeleton Crew follow The Acolyte which was all over social media for the wrong reasons and was apparently poo. The only Star Wars series I'm looking forward to is Andor because I have confidence in the show runner.
 
Disney have certainly been blazing a trail in that policy. I'm shocked to discover that Moana is being considered a flop, and it's not looking good for thunderbolts, brave new world or snow white
In what World is Moana 2, the 4th highest grossing movie of the year "being considered a flop"?

It was originally a comissioned TV series that was repurposed as a movie (in record time) and has made a fortune.
 
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In what World is Moana 2, the 4th highest grossing movie of the year "being considered a flop"?

It was originally a comissioned TV series that was repurposed as a movie (in record time) and has made a fortune.
alleged production budget of around 250 to 300 million, marketing is easily in the 200 million. Theatre screening cut from tickets come to around 40%, and it's currently about to bow out at 720 million dollarydoos my friend. Inside out 2 closed on 1.7 billion, deadpool and wolverine closed on 1.3 billion. By what reasonable metric that Disney is concerned with would you not consider Moana 2 a failure?

And to boot because they've cannibalised the home media market they're not going to get any residuals from that, which means they're solely reliant on whatever money streaming brings in.
 
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Both above opinions could be true and it just shows cinema is dieing if production / marketing costs are getting too high then only best of best makes a decent profit and the rest break even approx.

They need to cut costs…..
 
alleged production budget of around 250 to 300 million, marketing is easily in the 200 million. Theatre screening cut from tickets come to around 40%, and it's currently about to bow out at 720 million dollarydoos my friend. Inside out 2 closed on 1.7 billion, deadpool and wolverine closed on 1.3 billion. By what reasonable metric that Disney is concerned with would you not consider Moana 2 a failure?
Tracking indicates it will hit $1 billion

There's no metrics where it's considered a flop
 
Speaking of flops. Mufasa isn’t looking to hot!!

I really don't know what they were thinking. Actually i reckon I do - most of this stuff the produce to serve Disney+, but given that Disney+ still isn't technically solvent.

Which actually is a shame because i would argue that from a value prospective in the UK (not so much in the states) access to Disney is brilliant value for the Star tab alone.
 
I haven't watched the show but the reviews suggest it's not bad. It's problem much like Andor is that it follows much noisier crap. Andor followed Kenobi which was utter turd but highly visible turd and didn't get the viewing figures it deserved. Skeleton Crew follow The Acolyte which was all over social media for the wrong reasons and was apparently poo. The only Star Wars series I'm looking forward to is Andor because I have confidence in the show runner.
You know it's not because it sits right where i feel star wars should; it's easy for me to feel protective of what I term my star wars[/i] and I feel rightfully so... But for something to endure you need new bums of seats and skeleton crew is actually probably good family viewing. My hope is that they learn from things like Andor and skeleton crew that it's ok to produce stories that service a more mature audience as well as a younger audience. In that spirit I'm looking forward to seeing Ahsoka season 2, to see if they retool things a little (I would like to see Rosario Dawson be a little more of her personality as opposed to the arm crossing, brooding Ahsoka) and how they address Baylon Skol. And i'm genuinely excited for Andor season 2.
 
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I really don't know what they were thinking. Actually i reckon I do - most of this stuff the produce to serve Disney+, but given that Disney+ still isn't technically solvent.

Which actually is a shame because i would argue that from a value prospective in the UK (not so much in the states) access to Disney is brilliant value for the Star tab alone.
The film actually receives good ratings from cinema goers. Disney just don’t understand the audience that are willing to part money to see their content. The budget was also insane.
 
The film actually receives good ratings from cinema goers. Disney just don’t understand the audience that are willing to part money to see their content. The budget was also insane.
Their budgets are an issue that I can't imagine their shareholders are happy with. There are rumours that snow white is approaching something like a half billion. a half billion!
 
Speaking of budgets this is completely bonkers. One of these least watched shows even though it was well received!!

That shocked me. I've seen a few people try to rationalise it, but I'd still be asking where the money is actually going.
 
That shocked me. I've seen a few people try to rationalise it, but I'd still be asking where the money is actually going.
Two of my favourite Disney StarWars shows is the least watched.

Will be interesting to see how Andor will finish since they are condescending the show into one final season.
 
Two of my favourite Disney StarWars shows is the least watched.

Will be interesting to see how Andor will finish since they are condescending the show into one final season.
i think i recall Tony Gilroy saying that andor seasons 1 & 2 is just the part of rogue one that was considered superfluous for the film production and dropped to the floor which they when proceeded to flesh out and turn into a series - which I'm completely ok with. The plan was always two seasons from what he was saying, but it's one of my favourites that disney has produced as well. see this is the thing - as bad as the star wars shows are, I can't honestly say the production quality is the big issue (although I'd be quite happy if they stopped using the volume quite so much in favour of practical locations which would actually probably be cheaper) - The acolyte and Kenobi (two shows that I take the biggest issues with) were just so iredeemably bad and had some terrible acting and storytelling in it that made it completely unwatchable.

Skeleton crew though? With the exception of Nick Frost, I love it. I really think that if there's a lesson that Disney needs to take into 2025, it's that quality matters and not quantity, and that it's ok to hire a few talented writers instead of opting for the nearest diversity fill.
 
I haven't watched the show but the reviews suggest it's not bad. It's problem much like Andor is that it follows much noisier crap. Andor followed Kenobi which was utter turd but highly visible turd and didn't get the viewing figures it deserved. Skeleton Crew follow The Acolyte which was all over social media for the wrong reasons and was apparently poo. The only Star Wars series I'm looking forward to is Andor because I have confidence in the show runner.

Skeleton crew is actually quite good, but squarely aimed at kids and tweens.

However I'm an adult and thoroughly enjoying it.

It's not Oscar worthy and is certainly not mandalorian or andor, I can't see it adding hugely to the star wars universe but it's only a few episodes in.

The above said though, I really liked Kenobi series and latterly Ashoka and even bobba fett, though the bobba fett one needed more grit and oopmph
 
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