Me Again...I Can't Decide on a Car..
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I give it a month at the most.
To just think for a second, you could have been driving around in something like this:
I think the XF is the only current Jag I like (not including the XKR, which wasnt an option).
I know, massive LOLZ at putting £12k into my bank, saving £250 a month in fuel, £300 a year in tax, £800 on insurance; not to mention tyres, servicing and consumables. It will do its job.
Caporegime
Civic seems like a decent enough tool for the job.
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I'm not sure I agree. They are not particularly economical nor particularly comfortable or even particually nicely finished on the inside. Its done now but I can't imagine choosing a 5 year old £9k Civic for a 20k a year commute. The fact it's cost so much in the first place for a 5 year old car is surely wiping out some of the potential savings? Just seems like an odd buy.
I think I'd genuinelly rather drive something like a £5-7k used Jetta 1.9 TDI than a Civic 2.2. If you are going to drive something cheap and cheerful to save money at least make sure it actually IS cheap and cheerful.
[TW]Fox;21651740 said:
I took it out for an hour, enjoyed the drive, moreso than the VAG cars I'd driven. The engine is the best diesel engine I've driven in that class too.
I was looking at Golfs, Jetta's etc but the Civic felt better.
But why such an expensive one? Does £9000 for a 5 year old 50k mile Focus class hatchback not strike as you as a massive ripoff?
Yes the diesel engine is good to drive and revs well for a diesel but the tradeoff here is that whilst not driving like a VAG 1.9 TDI neither does it deliver the fuel economy of one.
Yes the diesel engine is good to drive and revs well for a diesel but the tradeoff here is that whilst not driving like a VAG 1.9 TDI neither does it deliver the fuel economy of one.
[TW]Fox;21651788 said:
It will get above 50mpg on a steady run. If you compare it to other Civics within my radius of a similar spec it is a reasonable price. Its not a massive rip or, nor is it a huge bargain. Its reliable, well built IMO, comfortable, quiet (for a diesel), cheap to insure, tax etc.
EDIT - it was £8600.
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It's cheap to tax?
Ah, sorted then
Given that a 2008 BMW 330i will 'get above 43mpg on a steady run' (Not an alternative suggestion merely an example to highlight how thoroughly underwhelming 50mpg on a steady run is for a small diesel hatch) forgive me for considering that the fact you need a 'steady run' to get over 50mpg in a Civic diesel is simply confirmation of my point
Ah, sorted then
Given that a 2008 BMW 330i will 'get above 43mpg on a steady run' (Not an alternative suggestion merely an example to highlight how thoroughly underwhelming 50mpg on a steady run is for a small diesel hatch) forgive me for considering that the fact you need a 'steady run' to get over 50mpg in a Civic diesel is simply confirmation of my point
[TW]Fox;21651856 said:It's cheap to tax?
Ah, sorted then
Given that a 2008 BMW 330i will 'get above 43mpg on a steady run' (Not an alternative suggestion merely an example to highlight how thoroughly underwhelming 50mpg on a steady run is for a small diesel hatch) forgive me for considering that the fact you need a 'steady run' to get over 50mpg in a Civic diesel is simply confirmation of my point
I dont want a BMW 330i or anything similar. I want something thats cheap to run, a 330i isn't cheap to run. Neither is a Jag, as much as I'd like an XF. You selectively missed my other points too about insurance, running costs, getting my gf insured on it so she can learn to drive etc.
Coming from a car that won't do better than 25mpg, high 50's will be welcomed.
So why did you get us to spend our time providing you with advice and opinions on cars up to and including 300bhp 335's when what you actually wanted was cheap road tax and low insurance?
Your opening post just a few days ago linked to an £18,000 BMW 535.
Now you are saying 'I dont want something like a BMW! I want cheap tax!'.
2 days ago you were asking about near 300bhp cars. Now you are getting frustrated that we don't appear to understand the importance you placed on cheap road tax. I appreciate priorities change but to go from 'I fancy this 535d' to 'It had to have cheap tax and be low insurance for my girlfriend' in the space of a few days is just odd. I don't get it, sorry.
Did you not have a girlfriend when you first posted this thread or something?
Future tip: If you dont want a BMW 330 or anything similar, dont post in the same thread linking to 335's explaining how you want something with more poke than a 3.0 TDI.
It just makes the fact you are trying to justify the Civic to yourself painfully obvious
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Caporegime
Jerk reaction followed by purchase justification syndrome imho.
[TW]Fox;21651954 said:
I apologise for wasting your time; it was my intent to go for the 335d or something similar, however I had an epiphany of sorts and realised I'd be making a mistake if I spent the same amount of money on another car for my commute, especially with so many other factors influencing the purchase. Now I have to phone up the BMW/Jag/Alfa/etc garages to tell them I'm not interested anymore.
Good one; I have no one to justify my purchase to (except the gf), least of all an internet forum.
[TW]Fox;21652053 said:He means self justification, not to the internet.
Anyway, done now. Enjoy it
Well obviously you have to justify every purchase you make, and at the end of the day if it turns out to be the wrong decision, which I believe it isn't, I can sell the car and move on. I don't think that will happen though.
Don't you mean "grin and bear it"?
Soldato
Don't ask for advice from the internet forum then. If at the end of it all, you go against all advice and get an over priced diesel hatchback
Soldato
Its a 2007 Jaguar XJ 'Sport Premium' with the 2.7 litre twin turbo diesel engine. Was such a lovely car, though I suppose running costs are a bit high....20" wheels doesn't help. Makes a change from cream leather and brown wood you see in most XJs.
Was the Civic a much better drive than the alfa?
Intrested to hear your thoughts on it rather than a quick 1 liner
Based on the limited driving in both so far, the Alfa was great to look at and had a very nice interior, but the seats were really uncomfortable; the lumbar support was not supportive enough for me. I found it difficult to drive in town traffic compared to the Civic, which was very easy. The Blue & Me system in the Alfa was a PITA. Plus the Alfa already had bubbling in some areas of the paint work!
Civic is nice, my mate has the same engine in his. Car feels really solid and he enjoys driving it, his only comments really are its a bit noisier than the BMW diesels he has (His brother works for RR so gets a new BMW every 6-9mths) and it's slightly overpowered for the car.