Medieval Weapons

[Angilion]

Not quite medieval,

But I remember a documentary some years ago about Classical Era Greek "Linen Armour"

Basically this was made up of multiple sheets of Linen bonded together with resin, Much like Kevlar composite today.

It was semi rigid and yet flexible and could be formed into lightweight loose fitting plates.

It was also very strong.

It was actually very good at protecting against arrows and even sword blows because rather than resisting the blow it would flex on contact taking all the energy out of the sword blow or arrow strike.

Arrows would just bounce off without penetrating.

Linothorax. Laminated cloth armour is suprisingly effective. It was also used in medieval Europe, though that type was quite different to linothorax (much less rigid since it wasn't bonded with resin). It wasn't as good as metal armour but it was relatively cheap and much better than clothing. I'd rather not be hit by an arrow while wearing it, though. Protecting against an arrow is usually harder than protecting against a sword blow, not easier, although a lot depends on range, angle of striking, the power of the bow and the arrow itself.

 

[Efour]

If I'm ever magically transported back to medieval times I'll be seriously glad I bookmarked this thread.

Not if, when....

 

[ttaskmaster]

You're swapping between the real world in England during the period of time in which bows were a widely used weapon and the bears of the original post

OK, so tell me - How are the bears in the original post so different from bears in the real world, then?
Cite these differences. Exact quotes.
Go on, I'll wait...

You're also swapping between a false dichotomy of either armour or bows being useless and a more realistic position of both being useful though not perfect.

You're getting yourself confused between two different aspects of a parallel context.
Go back and re-read the whole thread, to understand where each one fits.

If you settle down to one position, I might reply to it.

Since the numerous questions you've already posed prove you neither understand nor care to understand the matters properly, I really don't care if you reply or not.
You have already responded with ignorance of the information posted and are cherry picking specific details out of context, presumably in some attempt to simply make an argument rather than offer any constructive substance of debate... It's almost as if this is your first time attempting to troll someone!

 

[adolf hamster]

so are we settled that a bear in armour with a quarterstaff is an undefeatable opponent?

sounds like a mod for skyrim actually.....

 

[Efour]

I'd play that mmo

 

[ttaskmaster]

so are we settled that a bear in armour with a quarterstaff is an undefeatable opponent?

Depends... am I allowed to cast firebolts at it, during this debate?

 

[adolf hamster]

Depends... am I allowed to cast firebolts at it, during this debate?

Have you acheived sufficient magicka levels to cast that spell/read the correct spell tome?

If you have then yeah, but it wont do much without the relevent points in the destruction skill tree.

 

[ttaskmaster]

Have you acheived sufficient magicka levels to cast that spell/read the correct spell tome?

Dunno what this magicka stuff is, but I'm a Level 8 Sorcerer and am pretty good at passing my dice checks.

If you have then yeah, but it wont do much without the relevent points in the destruction skill tree.

Huh?
Why do I have to destroy a tree in order to cast a spell... and won't that **** off the party Druid??

 

[adolf hamster]

Dunno what this magicka stuff is, but I'm a Level 8 Sorcerer and am pretty good at passing my dice checks.
Huh?
Why do I have to destroy a tree in order to cast a spell... and won't that **** off the party Druid??

oh dear... do you even skyrim bro?







you could always try shouting, although i sense you may not be dovakiin

 

[Angilion]

OK, so tell me - How are the bears in the original post so different from bears in the real world, then?
Cite these differences. Exact quotes.
Go on, I'll wait...

Since your question has nothing to do with the text I wrote, it's up to you to answer it for yourself.

You're getting yourself confused between two different aspects of a parallel context.
Go back and re-read the whole thread, to understand where each one fits.

Anyone who wants to do so can click back through the quote links and see for themselves.

Since the numerous questions you've already posed prove you neither understand nor care to understand the matters properly, I really don't care if you reply or not.
You have already responded with ignorance of the information posted and are cherry picking specific details out of context, presumably in some attempt to simply make an argument rather than offer any constructive substance of debate... It's almost as if this is your first time attempting to troll someone!

Same as above - the quote links are there for anyone to click on.

I admit that after a very long day at work I did find your post irritating enough to briefly consider replying in a similar way. But only briefly. I'm fine with what I've written and with the fact that anyone who wants to can read all our posts, so I'll leave it there. You can think that you ended me rightly with your pommel. Hmm...is something still a meme if it's obscure outside of a couple of Youtube channels? Well, anyway. Enough of this. On to the more interesting topic of unfeasible bears.

 

[Angilion]

so are we settled that a bear in armour with a quarterstaff is an undefeatable opponent?

sounds like a mod for skyrim actually.....

Or GTA. There are some weird mods for that. You can play as a gun-wielding giraffe, so why not a bear with a quarterstaff?

I think a bear would have some difficulty wielding a quarterstaff. They're not well suited to standing upright. Could a bear grip a quarterstaff? Maybe something attached to the quarterstaff that a bear could put their claws though, although that would limit them to one grip.

Would a bear with a quarterstaff beat a bear dual-wielding katanas? A moot point anyway, since modern bears would have course have shoulder-mounted AK-47s.

 

[adolf hamster]

A moot point anyway, since modern bears would have course have shoulder-mounted AK-47s.

oh cmon, if ever there was an animal large and strong enough to dual weild miniguns (and all the associated batteries and ammo) it'd be a bear

 

[The IPB]

I think a bear would have some difficulty wielding a quarterstaff. They're not well suited to standing upright. Could a bear grip a quarterstaff? Maybe something attached to the quarterstaff that a bear could put their claws though, although that would limit them to one grip.

It's happening already..

 

[ttaskmaster]

oh dear... do you even skyrim bro?

Not very well, I'm afraid. It's a bit after my time. I do still have polyhedral dice, though...

you could always try shouting, although i sense you may not be dovakiin

I'm supposed to be, but I just levelled up enough that a couple of hits kills the dragon outright. I kinda did all the side quests first and forgot about the dragon kill/soul/power words thing. By the time I started getting them, I found them a bit naff compared to stuff I'd picked up already.

Since your question has nothing to do with the text I wrote, it's up to you to answer it for yourself.

No no.... YOU claim I'm swapping between the real world and whatever the bears in the OP are, implying there's some kind of difference.
So either there is and you've a point to make, or there isn't and you don't understand the thread. Which is it?

Anyone who wants to do so can click back through the quote links and see for themselves.

Suggesting you don't want to understand and are only in it for an argument, further substantiated by the rest of your post.

 

[adolf hamster]

Not very well, I'm afraid. It's a bit after my time. I do still have polyhedral dice, though...

I'm supposed to be, but I just levelled up enough that a couple of hits kills the dragon outright. I kinda did all the side quests first and forgot about the dragon kill/soul/power words thing. By the time I started getting them, I found them a bit naff compared to stuff I'd picked up already.

*Sigh* then give me a d20 roll for wisdom and dexterity and we'll see if you can fireball this bear

 

[ttaskmaster]

*Sigh* then give me a d20 roll for wisdom and dexterity and we'll see if you can fireball this bear

What's the Dex check for? You testing my somatics?

I roll a 16 and 13 respectively....

 

[adolf hamster]

What's the Dex check for? You testing my somatics?

I roll a 16 and 13 respectively....

I'm testing your aim.

So you cast a strong solid fireball veering right for the bears chest, unfortunately the bear gets a natural 20 for perception and rolls to the right, the fireball misses by inches leaving a track of singed fur along the side of the now very angry bear. He gains his beserk perk making any attack next turn deal an extra damage point although in the act of rolling he has stopped charging and will need a turn to get charging again.

Your move

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

I will fight anyone - ANYONE - who says that this thread is not worth 5 stars.

With a quarter staff.

Or sword.

e: how do I vote 5 stars? Has that been lost in the new forum stuff?

 

[Edrof]

I will fight anyone - ANYONE - who says that this thread is not worth 5 stars.

With a quarter staff.

Or sword.

e: how do I vote 5 stars? Has that been lost in the new forum stuff?

You gain the ability to rate threads on the new forum only after defeating two gorillas. It's something to do with the coding, you wouldn't understand.

 

[adolf hamster]

You gain the ability to rate threads on the new forum only after defeating two gorillas. It's something to do with the coding, you wouldn't understand.

and you only get a small knife for peeling fruit.....