MegaUpload has been shut down

a1ex2001 said:
Brilliant!

Did you not notice the massive profits that the owners of these sites that are dropping like flies were making? The big difference being they had actually done nothing what so ever to earn them or support the creative industries that they were profitering on the back of.
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They set up a business in a niche that existed within the law.

Does it bother you that you live in a democracy? Does it not bother you that companies act outside of the law to make more money?
 
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Longbow said:
Same goes for every country. PIPA/SOPA doesn't expand past the US borders, but if other countries want to make similar laws they can.
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You mean like Spain?

Who would have been put on a sanction list if they didnt do "better" with their laws, Japan, China and South Korea are in a rather lucrative group and can easily say no, but a nation like Spain, which is barely surviving, has to follow orders.
 
Andy said:
They set up a business in a niche that existed within the law.
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Then profited massively from the fact that what there site actually did was host millions of files of pirated material while paying lip service to the law. I really don't understand how anyone is surprised they have gone their entire business was based around the downloading of copyright material, do you honestly think the Linux distros and game patches would have made the owners multi millionaires?

I would suggest that the fact the majority of the sites offering a similar service have withdrawn their service says tha they all knew what they were doing is on the wrong side of the line.

Andy said:
Does it bother you that you live in a democracy? Does it not bother you that companies act outside of the law to make more money?
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Wied democracy question, of course it doesn't bother me that I live in one.

Yes it does bother me that companies act outside the law but how that excuses the ridiculous sense of entitlment shown by the downloaders in this thread or the actions of the owners of mega upload I have no idea after all two wrongs don't make a right!
 
How the hell can downloading music carry a maximum 10 year prison sentence when people get less for murder, ABH, GBH and rape?

Perspective, much?
 
PianoBasher said:
How the hell can downloading music carry a maximum 10 year prison sentence when people get less for murder, ABH, GBH and rape?

Perspective, much?
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Apart from its not 10years for just downloading.
http://www.nme.com/news/miscellaneous/62053
A Soca spokesman said: "Members of the public can become facilitators of organized crime by obtaining property or services from its perpetrators. Soca is committed to raising awareness of this threat, its potetnail consequences, and the steps people can take to avoid involvement."
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This isn't just copyright.
Also it's maximum sentence, murder maximum sentence is life so that's also wrong.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...down-rnbxclusive.com-filesharing-website.html
Although websites are routinely removed for breaching copyright or for being linked to criminal activity, replacing rnbxclusive.com with a SOCA homepage sends a particularly aggressive message. Sources say that is because the investigation centres on hacking into music industry accounts and social network sites in order to put up material before it has been released, rather than simply breaching an artist's existing copyright.
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So yes it's actually fits perfectly with SOCAs remit
 
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That message they have put up looks so unprofessional, looks like the sort of scaremongering tactics those fake antivirus websites use, to scare customers into buying their program.
 
Energize said:
That's what soca's message says though.
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The message doesn't go into details.

It doesn't say the act of downloading on its own is the law you are breaking.
It is scaremongering though as it helps the messafe and scares off/blocka the generql population, which is what they want to achieve. They know they can't stop computer literate people, that doesn't mean they can't put the majority of the public off, or make easy services like torrents out of business.
 
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It says that if you have simply downloaded music from the site then you may have committed an offence, whatever way you look at it, that's 10 years for downloading music regardless of what legislation it falls under. Which as has already been said is less than some people get for murder, regardless of the maximum possible sentence.
 
Energize said:
It says that if you have simply downloaded music from the site then you may have committed an offence, whatever way you look at it, that's 10 years for downloading music regardless of what legislation it falls under.
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It's not because that's law dose not exist. So pining a different law on you for simply downloading, is going to be impossible.

It also doesn't say simply, you've also ignored the most important word "may" which translates to, they wouldn't stand a chance of conviction.

Murder is life, so stop saying that.

And it's not 10years for downloading. It's 10 years for helping fraud, which using just downloading.
 
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They also state an unlimited fine but when you look at it it's a direct download website not p2p. The ridiculous fees that they give for people using torrents for downloading music surely cannot apply for a direct download because you aren't sharing when you download.
 
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