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Mercedes Benz and AMG Owners

Discussion in 'Motors' started by Six6siX, May 15, 2014.

  1. Yas786

    Caporegime

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    Ok then a rich mans poor AMG...is that better Foxy??
     
  2. Basher

    Soldato

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    He didn't say that though, did he?

    He said they're a poor-mans AMG i.e. a cheaper version. Which they are.
     
  3. Jaap74

    Wise Guy

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    I feel so poor in my C43 :p


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  4. pioneer2000

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    If that makes you feel better sure. Though AMG themselves clearly disagree with you.

    The turbo V8’s were originally derided for not being proper AMG engines... so if you think that possibly the best production 4 cylinder turbo isn’t good enough then you’d likely have to write them off as well.

    As stated, the C43 is different because the engine is not a one man one engine build (so ergo not an AMG power plant).

    I guess in your mind then a Ferrari California / Lamborghini Huracan / Porsche Cayman are poor men’s version of their respective brands?

    Don’t you drive a diesel Golf? You must absolute despise that car if you think an A45 isn’t exciting to drive!
     
  5. Steedie

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    Lol the “poor mans x” argument. Gibbo bought a poor mans Ferrari LaFerrari. Is a C63 just a poor mans AMG GTR?

    Pretty pathetic really.

    I own a C43. Not arsed that it’s not a “proper” AMG engine. Would have happily bought it if it was still designated the C450 badge. I bought it because it’s a fantastic car in terms of the performance and still offering respectable economy on the odd long trip for work I have to do.

    Could have quite easily got a C63, but after test driving both, I opted for the C43 as for what I wanted, it ticked more boxes
     
  6. Simon

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    Usually spouted by morons who are jealous. Like poor mans 911s
     
  7. Robbo

    Don

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    Exactly what I was going to say. Where do you draw the line? These are proper AMG brand cars.

    The whole 'poor mans' thing seems totally ridiculous. The A45 especially is every bit as bespoke as any AMG car, and it feels like one too.
     
  8. pioneer2000

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    The new A45S is shaping up to be a great package over the outgoing model:
    • Improved performance; 416 bhp, sub 4 to 60
    • 4Matic+ Drift mode ala the Focus RS
    • Class leading interior / infotainment
    The significant changes to the a class (more interior room and the split tail lights giving better access to the boot) have resolved two of the biggest complaints about the base car.

    Only concern I can see is whether the 45 has a different enough appearance to the A35 now. At the moment it looks like it has the same aero kit as before with likely similar front canards... hopefully they go the extra distance to make it stand apart from that.
     
  9. Robbo

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    I think the A45S will have the new AMG grille (like the one on the AMG GTR and new C63s etc).

    That will set it apart at the front anyway.
     
  10. timmeh

    Mobster

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    Is that the 4 cylinder engine making 416bhp?
     
  11. pioneer2000

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    Yes in fairness that’s already confirmed, slipped my mind!
     
  12. pioneer2000

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    Yes, higher specific output per liter than the Senna.
     
  13. Journey

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    No doubt there'll be a massive backlash when the first BEV AMG becomes available. Even if it is the fastest car they ever made, since it it's not an AMG as it not's 8/12 cylinder etc. :rolleyes:
     
  14. timmeh

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    Madness
     
  15. Kenai

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    Maybe they'll make it with 8 or 12 electric motors to appease the 'purists'.
     
  16. Spunkey

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    Or do as BMW and pipe engine noise through the stereo :)
     
  17. batfink

    Gangster

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    I totally agree. I could have chosen a C63 as a "proper" AMG (one man, one engine, V8 etc etc) however I am probably the exact target market of the C43 estate, which I own. I wanted a quick car which was interesting to own and something more than a 4-pot hot hatch. I also needed a family car that can transport me and my family in comfort and safety, no matter what the conditions are. The 4matic (with 67% rear bias) was a massive tick in the box for me. Yes, a C63 with RWD is going to be more fun but I don't go to a track so for 99% of driving, the 4matic is quicker and safer more often.

    The predominant weather in the UK is wet, all year around. In these conditions, the added grip from 4matic works really well. I've had 250bhp FWD cars which struggle with grip and I have no doubt that a RWD V8 would struggle too. The C43 may only be a V6 but it is a very quick car. If I was a single man who prioritised fun driving over everything else then I would go with a C63. For me as a family man, it's about compromise and the C43 is a pretty good compromise IMHO.
     
  18. Spit

    Soldato

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    Ordered a C300 Coupe today in brilliant blue. It’s the AMG Line but didn’t go for any extras, preferred to go for the better engine.

    Should get it next week, can’t wait. Moving over from a base spec Civic which I needed to get when I started my new business 2 years ago.
     
  19. Housey

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    All you poor'ers in your C and A classes.

    Proper men drive the E AMG ones, like me.

    Man me.






    what do you mean "but it's a 4 cylinder diesel?"

    Salesman said it was an AMG.
     
  20. timmeh

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    or you could have an E with a C interior.