Metal Gear Solid. The Phantom pain.

Pighardia · 28 Jul 2016 at 15:03

Surely not a chance of another chapter. I would love it though!

Marky · 28 Jul 2016 at 15:10

Why would you cheer the fact that they sold the game incomplete and they're going to sell you the last chapter separately?

I'm a huge MGS fan, but I think even I would boycott that ********

Uncle_Gravy · 28 Jul 2016 at 15:40

Where have you seen that?

If true that's disgusting and I expect that missing chapter to be in my copy of the game FOC!!!!!

Marky · 28 Jul 2016 at 15:42

Uncle_Gravy said:
Where have you seen that?

If true that's disgusting and I expect that missing chapter to be in my copy of the game FOC!!!!!

Nah it's just speculation - I can't see them doing anything like that, especially now that Kojima is no longer with Konami

JulioH · 29 Jul 2016 at 01:40

lol they definitely won't finish that (who's even there to finish it?). They just want to milk all they can from Kojima's left overs before they go full pachinko.

wunkley · 26 Aug 2016 at 18:59

I've only just started playing this since getting in the recent steam sales. Haven't played a metal gear game since PS2 days I think.

Righto then, and sorry to shout but WHAT THE **** IS GOING ON? I'm baffled. This has to be one of the most bizarre, mentally ill openings to any game I've ever played. Floating women in gas masks and some sort of man on fire prancing about, with so many cut scenes trying far too hard to impress with 'cinematography', it feels a bit pathetic. Who am I? Why can I sometimes hear Kiefer Sutherland's voice from the man with the bandaged head, but then from 'me' also? Can anyone offer any sanity, or guidance?

FoxEye · 26 Aug 2016 at 19:18

wunkley said:
I've only just started playing this since getting in the recent steam sales. Haven't played a metal gear game since PS2 days I think.

Righto then, and sorry to shout but WHAT THE **** IS GOING ON? I'm baffled. This has to be one of the most bizarre, mentally ill openings to any game I've ever played. Floating women in gas masks and some sort of man on fire prancing about, with so many cut scenes trying far too hard to impress with 'cinematography', it feels a bit pathetic. Who am I? Why can I sometimes hear Kiefer Sutherland's voice from the man with the bandaged head, but then from 'me' also? Can anyone offer any sanity, or guidance?

The beginning is one of the better story-telling bits of the game, I have to say. Don't worry tho, after the first hour there is almost no story, and the cut-scenes are spaced so far apart you might see one every 20 hours.

TheVoice · 26 Aug 2016 at 20:02

As above, the narrative fades into the background fairly quickly (unless you listen to the cassette tapes) so you're just left with a sparse, open-world of repetitive missions to grind through until you get bored.

chef-borjan · 27 Aug 2016 at 13:28

Good thing I got highly engrossed in the lore then, cherry on the top of excellent gameplay.

wunkley · 27 Aug 2016 at 13:38

Well, I've just got past the mentally ill 'intro' / ludicrous cut scenes and am now on a horse in Afghanistan. Still absolutely no idea who I am, or what's going on - but the look and feel of the game and gameplay is very nice!

I think I will persist, but have I missed something or does it rely on you having played all the previous games and following the story? I haven't so am I basically screwed on that score?

slick rick · 27 Aug 2016 at 13:42

wunkley said:
Well, I've just got past the mentally ill 'intro' / ludicrous cut scenes and am now on a horse in Afghanistan. Still absolutely no idea who I am, or what's going on - but the look and feel of the game and gameplay is very nice!

I think I will persist, but have I missed something or does it rely on you having played all the previous games and following the story? I haven't so am I basically screwed on that score?

I have played all previous games in the series except Snake Eater and the story is so convoluted I don't have a ****ing clue what it's all about, I am a bit thick though.

Pighardia · 27 Aug 2016 at 13:49

Except Snake Eater?.... That's the best one!

As I've said previously, I think this game might have the best gameplay ever imo. It is a shame they didn't wrap up the story well though. It was still my GOTY though, based on the gameplay.

slick rick · 27 Aug 2016 at 13:52

Pighardia said:
Except Snake Eater?.... That's the best one!

I started playing it and only got a few hours in before the old PS2 gave up the ghost.

Omaeka · 27 Aug 2016 at 13:53

There is no such game as Snake Eater.

It is Coin Eater.

Never forget.

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Name · 27 Aug 2016 at 13:56

Cannot wait for MG SurVive looks absolutely incredible.

TheVoice · 27 Aug 2016 at 14:47

wunkley said:
Well, I've just got past the mentally ill 'intro' / ludicrous cut scenes and am now on a horse in Afghanistan. Still absolutely no idea who I am, or what's going on - but the look and feel of the game and gameplay is very nice!

I think I will persist, but have I missed something or does it rely on you having played all the previous games and following the story? I haven't so am I basically screwed on that score?

It ties into all of them in some way but it essentially continues on from Peace Walker, which is probably the least-played one in the entire series. For some reason they decided that open-world trumped narrative and immersion and that was that.

Amatsubu · 27 Aug 2016 at 15:03

Snake Eater is absolutely superb (those bosses!), one of the best games I've ever played in terms of atmosphere/story.

The narrative does indeed take a backseat in PP but the gameplay and details are simply fantastic. I found the tapes interesting as well. I agree with some of the complaints but I still got my money's worth and then some.

Pighardia · 27 Aug 2016 at 18:45

Well I don't have a game on atm, so I might give this another go actually. See how it holds up on a second playthrough.

I'll go through Ground Zeroes and see if I can get in the mood.

Edit - my god I forgot how mad the beginning is. Even more so when you know how it ends. I really wish Kojima had been allowed to make the game he wanted!

TheVoice · 28 Aug 2016 at 14:11

Ground Zeroes was excellent, I'd have been quite happy if PP had just been more of that.

Pighardia · 28 Aug 2016 at 14:24

I just wanted a few more unique locations.

I wonder where the third chapter would have gone. Another short chapter based in one location like ground zeroes, but with a big building to infiltrate would have been the perfect ending.

I know a lot of people blame the game going open world for a lot of failings but I don't think that is the case tbh.