Microsoft scraps Windows 7 'E' version for Europe

gord · 5 Aug 2009 at 09:35

I don't like the sound of Windows 7 connecting my PC to the world.. sounds dangerous..

FreeStream · 5 Aug 2009 at 09:44

JRS said:
So, Microsoft are now having to advertise competing browsers. Well, I sure hope they plan on making Apple do the same rather than just bundling Safari....

Because Safari on mac is faster and better than any of the others available while IE is **** on Windows?

Apple is the combination of Hardware and Software, that is the selling point.

The day the EU forces apple to sell OS X for the Windows market would be the day apple computers come to an end.

LostPhil · 5 Aug 2009 at 09:58

That product description is painful reading! Surely that can't be an official one?

Concorde Rules said:
Because Safari on mac is faster and better than any of the others available while IE is **** on Windows?

Apple is the combination of Hardware and Software, that is the selling point.

The day the EU forces apple to sell OS X for the Windows market would be the day apple computers come to an end.

Don't be daft - IE isn't terrible on windows at all and that's coming from a firefox user.

And nobody is asking for OSX to be sold to the world..? Just wondering why other operating systems aren't having to give a choice of browsers (which is down to marketshare as pointed out above).

m4cc45 · 5 Aug 2009 at 10:04

LostPhil said:
That product description is painful reading! Surely that can't be an official one?

Don't be daft - IE isn't terrible on windows at all and that's coming from a firefox user.

And nobody is asking for OSX to be sold to the world..? Just wondering why other operating systems aren't having to give a choice of browsers (which is down to marketshare as pointed out above).

Yes that would be why the majority of internet users use IE?

What Windows are doing with IE is what Apple do with Safari so if MS get's taken to court of anti-competition then so should Apple.

M.

LostPhil · 5 Aug 2009 at 10:19

Concorde Rules said:
Because Safari on mac is faster and better than any of the others available while IE is **** on Windows?

LostPhil said:
Don't be daft - IE isn't terrible on windows at all and that's coming from a firefox user.

m4cc45 said:
Yes that would be why the majority of internet users use IE?

Eh? You've lost me.

m4cc45 said:
What Windows are doing with IE is what Apple do with Safari so if MS get's taken to court of anti-competition then so should Apple.

I'm fully aware that technically, Apple are in the wrong (although don't they have a link to Opera or something in OSX? Just something I heard, not stating it as fact) but the market share Apple holds in the OS market isn't significant enough to influence the browser "market" (how on earth the browsers make their money, I have no idea!), hence why they aren't being included in this ruling. That IS the reason. Whether I agree with it or not is another matter.

I personally think Apple are very anti-competitive but that's OT.

m4cc45 · 5 Aug 2009 at 10:53

I personally don't think that it should just be down just to there market share. Surely it should be down to the way they go about there business.

I think iTunes is very anti-competitive and that's probably the biggest online music market.

What's amazing though is the EU only goes after those it can get billions from. It's not there to help reform. It's all about the money. (i.e. its fine first then encourage them to change).

M.

ScarySquirrel · 5 Aug 2009 at 10:58

I forgot to pre-order

LostPhil · 5 Aug 2009 at 11:21

I actually agree with most of those points m4cc45, it should be considered using the size of the company rather than market share IMO.

ScarySquirrel said:
I forgot to pre-order

Nooo, would offer one of mine (at a ...reasonable... price

) but alas, I'm going to use them both!

braveheart · 5 Aug 2009 at 11:51

other news: http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49303220,00.htm

and see wee part of it:

"Users who have pre-ordered a full licence to Windows 7 will be able to receive that licence.

So if you pre-ordered Windows 7 Home Premium E, you'll get a full version of Windows 7 Home Premium. The same goes for the Professional and Ultimate editions."

Keltik THC · 5 Aug 2009 at 12:10

magicroundabout said:
i've just ordered my pre order version. Went for the Professional as it was £50 less than what OCUK have it for sale at and the same price as the HP

I did this too, never got round to ordering HP for £50, and after the announcement MOST of the shops, like OCuk put their prices back up to £70/HP, £150/Prof, £190/Ultimate.

But i found a few shops who, strangely enough put the HP and Ultimate prices up to £70 & £190 but left the prof at £100.... i was going to go for HP, the only thing Prof has that is appealing is the virtual XP mode... so for the difference of £30 i thought i might as well.

As long as i get a FULL version of professional for £100 come october 22nd ill be happy enough... would have probably preffered 2x HP for that price, but cest la vi.

m4cc45 · 5 Aug 2009 at 12:25

ScarySquirrel said:
I forgot to pre-order

I'd still have a look around mate - you can probably find them pretty cheap. I'd also pre-order even now as when it's released the price is going to be higher.

M.

Regarding XP mode - isn't that just a virtual machine?

NickM · 5 Aug 2009 at 17:03

There's 1 place I know that still seems to be doing HP @ £50.
Also, the place I pre-ordered from confirmed that they will be sending out full copies not upgrades.

jas72 · 5 Aug 2009 at 19:26

Tesla said:
Just checked my order at a competitors site and it has changed to the non-E version.

I quote their product description:

I think Windows 7 makes it easier to switch between programs and record tv...

thing is windows 7 doesn't make tv recording at all :mad:

I dunno why they are plugging that aspect?

marc2003 · 5 Aug 2009 at 19:36

I dunno why they are plugging that aspect?

er, maybe it does actually work if you have a supported tv card.

i'm guessing yours is not media center compatible (or doesn't have upto date drivers. check the manufacturers website).

jas72 · 5 Aug 2009 at 19:40

i bought 2 at 50 and to be super sure ordered one from here at 70. If I get the three i'm going to keep one for later use. Although I now see that I might have been better to get family pack but I'm sure that would be tied to 3 computers.

gareth170 · 5 Aug 2009 at 23:58

jas72 said:
thing is windows 7 doesn't make tv recording at all

I dunno why they are plugging that aspect?

mine is working perfectly, using a dvb-1 and dvb-s2 tuners..

Greebo · 6 Aug 2009 at 09:30

On hearing this news even though i have already bought a premium at £45 and a professional at £80, I've just ordered another premium at £50.

Hopefully selling two of the three I don't need will pay for the one I am keeping.

Crixus00 · 6 Aug 2009 at 09:36

Just seen the Overclockers newsletter adverstising Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium for £70 and i have a few questions

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=SW-124-MS&groupid=33&catid=20&subcat=

- Is this a good deal, will the cost rocket after pre-order?
- I have Vista ultimate 64bit, is it worth upgrading?
- Ideally i would like to have 64bit operating system, but i couldn't find the option for 32bit/ 64bit. Do i assume that Windows is now not bothing with 32bit systems?

Thanks.

Meatball · 6 Aug 2009 at 09:44

My pre-order for W7 Home Premium from a well known rainforest is still showing as "Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium E (PC)" :confused:

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Daegan · 6 Aug 2009 at 10:01

139sroberts said:
- Is this a good deal, will the cost rocket after pre-order?

Yes and it will for the retail edition you end up with here.

- I have Vista ultimate 64bit, is it worth upgrading?

Some interface enhancements, some tweaks under the hood. Windows 7 is basically a prettier, leaner version of Vista.

- Ideally i would like to have 64bit operating system, but i couldn't find the option for 32bit/ 64bit. Do i assume that Windows is now not bothing with 32bit systems?

You get both.