microsoft to make own tablets

sven256 said:
No because you most often see prices in America without state tax added.

I can assure you there is not a massive difference in prices no where near what you think.

And then the tax applied is a lot lower than the tax we have to pay, Shock horror different countries pay different taxes. Even in America taxes differer from state to state hence the prices are most often pre tax.
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my work mate bought at ipad from the states a few months ago and with all the taxes included he saved himself around £200 mate.
 
jonneymendoza said:
my work mate bought at ipad from the states a few months ago and with all the taxes included he saved himself around £200 mate.
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Yes and apple products are about the only thing.


The in general go at a straight conversion £ to $ But that is purely down to apple.

As they have a say at every stage from design to sale. They hence having most of their sales via their own outlets. And price are kept high by them not the independent outlet.
 
thep02 said:
I bought my kid's 3g 7.7's from HK and saved about £400 on the transaction compared to what I had found UK retail able to do ;)
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That sounds like a plan but I would be worried about good copies,

I have a hell of a time getting Whisky from being illegally sold lol
 
delpy8 said:
That sounds like a plan but I would be worried about good copies,

I have a hell of a time getting Whisky from being illegally sold lol
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We've had them for months now, very genuine, developers and tech freaks bought them off the supplier before me and they were happy with the product inside and out.
 
Robbo said:
So about a grand for the Pro model, will your average person (sofa browser/emailer) think it's worth that much more than an iPad? I doubt it.

The RT just isn't as exciting.

Battery life might not be quite as great on the Pro too.
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Yes, considering it is totally different and not really aimed at competing directly with the iPad. The RT isn't exciting because TBH it's just another tablet a direct competitor to the iPad.

The Pro is probably way overkill for most people and the RT may be a better bet for the majority of people.

sven256 said:
Yes and apple products are about the only thing.


The in general go at a straight conversion £ to $ But that is purely down to apple.

As they have a say at every stage from design to sale. They hence having most of their sales via their own outlets. And price are kept high by them not the independent outlet.
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I saved several hundred buying a macbook in Canada (even after UK tax)... However it's not just Apple, most camera kit is similar too, btw the only thing more expensive generally is phones.
 
Amp34 said:
Yes, considering it is totally different and not really aimed at competing directly with the iPad. The RT isn't exciting because TBH it's just another tablet a direct competitor to the iPad.

The Pro is probably way overkill for most people and the RT may be a better bet for the majority of people.



I saved several hundred buying a macbook in Canada (even after UK tax)... However it's not just Apple, most camera kit is similar too, btw the only thing more expensive generally is phones.
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You are quoting apple again which is a closed system, and can in effect charge what they want where.

They have control over every aspect of their business even the outlets.

Camera equipment is a little cheaper not by massive amount especially after you import it and pay the correct tax (unless you don't get caught)

Things like tv's, music equipment etc will all be about the same and as you say phones are very expensive over there on contract.

People automatically look at the price in America and think that's cheap, yet that's without tax. And if you were to do it properly over here it often works out more expensive once you have added UK tax on.

Simple fact is retailers don't have this mythical massive mark up on electronics. Well apart from apple who control every aspect of their business.
 
I know, it's why I put the ... in. :)

Electronics usually are a little cheaper in the US (even after the correct taxes), however not significantly cheaper, and considering it's normally a case of paying the US price, the 7%(ish) tax and the full 20% VAT on that to get it to the UK it does put it into perspective a little.

It has little to do with the retailers though I agree, it costs them more to begin with. It's a mix of manufacturer markup and costs of shipping and doing business in the UK (Higher fuel, rent, salaries etc before you even get to the retail end of it).
 
sven256 said:
You are quoting apple again which is a closed system, and can in effect charge what they want where.

They have control over every aspect of their business even the outlets.

Camera equipment is a little cheaper not by massive amount especially after you import it and pay the correct tax (unless you don't get caught)

Things like tv's, music equipment etc will all be about the same and as you say phones are very expensive over there on contract.

People automatically look at the price in America and think that's cheap, yet that's without tax. And if you were to do it properly over here it often works out more expensive once you have added UK tax on.

Simple fact is retailers don't have this mythical massive mark up on electronics. Well apart from apple who control every aspect of their business.
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even if u add the tax it is still a lot cheaper. for example a canon 5dmk3 works out as £2.2k when u straight convert it to pounds(uk one costs 3k) and teh tax u add to that is what? 10-12%? thats a further 200-300 extra and a grand total of 2.5k. thats £500 saving. Enough to buy a plane ticket to a decent place for a holiday
 
jonneymendoza said:
even if u add the tax it is still a lot cheaper. for example a canon 5dmk3 works out as £2.2k when u straight convert it to pounds(uk one costs 3k) and teh tax u add to that is what? 10-12%? thats a further 200-300 extra and a grand total of 2.5k. thats £500 saving. Enough to buy a plane ticket to a decent place for a holiday
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Vat as well? 20% on top I think you will find. Then you factor in a lot higher land prices etc.
 
jonneymendoza said:
U don't g charged vat when u go through customs
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Tell that to customs.


2.2 Do I have to pay import duties and/or import VAT on goods sent to me?

Most goods arriving in the UK from outside the EU are liable to any or all of the following taxes:

customs duty
excise duty
import VAT

and must be paid whether:

you purchase the goods or receive them as a gift
the goods are new or used (including antiques)
the goods are for your private use or for re-sale

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2.3 What are the limits for customs duty and import VAT?

Commercial consignments i.e goods you have purchased, of £15 or less are free from customs duty and import VAT.
Note: This does not include alcohol, tobacco products, perfume or toilet waters; these items are excluded from the relief of duty and VAT at import.
In addition, commercial consignments sent to the UK from the Channel Islands do not benefit from any relief of import VAT.
If you are sent a gift with a value of £40 or less, which complies with the rules shown in paragraph 2.4, it will be free from customs duty and import VAT. Gifts of alcohol, tobacco, perfumes and toilet waters are subject to the limits shown in paragraph 2.5, while gifts of perfumes and toilet waters are subject to the limits in paragraph 2.6.
Customs duty becomes payable if the value of the goods is over £135 but duty is waived if the amount of duty calculated is less than £9.

http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channels...ntent&propertyType=document&id=HMCE_CL_000014

If buying from within the eu you will not have to. It's nice and easy to avoid paying it personally. But can a company selling within the uk do the same? No hence the price is higher.
 
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sven256 said:
Tell that to customs.


2.2 Do I have to pay import duties and/or import VAT on goods sent to me?

Most goods arriving in the UK from outside the EU are liable to any or all of the following taxes:

customs duty
excise duty
import VAT

and must be paid whether:

you purchase the goods or receive them as a gift
the goods are new or used (including antiques)
the goods are for your private use or for re-sale

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2.3 What are the limits for customs duty and import VAT?

Commercial consignments i.e goods you have purchased, of £15 or less are free from customs duty and import VAT.
Note: This does not include alcohol, tobacco products, perfume or toilet waters; these items are excluded from the relief of duty and VAT at import.
In addition, commercial consignments sent to the UK from the Channel Islands do not benefit from any relief of import VAT.
If you are sent a gift with a value of £40 or less, which complies with the rules shown in paragraph 2.4, it will be free from customs duty and import VAT. Gifts of alcohol, tobacco, perfumes and toilet waters are subject to the limits shown in paragraph 2.5, while gifts of perfumes and toilet waters are subject to the limits in paragraph 2.6.
Customs duty becomes payable if the value of the goods is over £135 but duty is waived if the amount of duty calculated is less than £9.

http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channels...ntent&propertyType=document&id=HMCE_CL_000014

If buying from within the eu you will not have to.
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How would they know i bought it from usa? same with clothes. impossible for them to tell mate.

all u gotta do is ditch the box/reciepts and chances of you getting caought is slim
 
jonneymendoza said:
How would they know i bought it from usa? same with clothes. impossible for them to tell mate.

all u gotta do is ditch the box/reciepts and chances of you getting caought is slim
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Yes but the argument is why are shop prices higher! not what you can import it for.

Of course it's going to be cheaper if you are paying zero tax or anything on the product.

Could a shop get away with doing this? Answer no. Hence the price is higher it's of no fault of the shop. They are not making a massive mark up, it's all tax.
 
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