*** Microsoft Windows 11 Thoughts & Discussion Thread ***

I suppose it's mostly trivial, we're looking at large file transfers that don't happen often at all, all my syncs are done via FreeFileSync anyway, this was more an exercise to test SSD to SSD transfer for a review I am doing of a drive so was curious, and as the speeds are over 3GB/sec, it really doesn't make an impact into the total time taken.

Basically first world problems, even if a little annoying to witness :p
 
Did today's update somehow break Chrome?
My wife's Pc runs edge fine now but won;t launch chrome, and indeed mine has just started the same symptoms post-update?
Is there a work around?
 
Seems it is malwarebytes playing stupid again

Google Chrome doesn’t open after installing KB5027231 Update​

  1. Open Malwarebytes
  2. Click on Settings > Security
  3. Scroll down to “Exploit Protection” at the bottom and disable it by toggling its switch to off.
Happened before, and they claimed it wasn't their problem, but seems it is, once again
 
Destination said:
Seems it is malwarebytes playing stupid again

Google Chrome doesn’t open after installing KB5027231 Update​

  1. Open Malwarebytes
  2. Click on Settings > Security
  3. Scroll down to “Exploit Protection” at the bottom and disable it by toggling its switch to off.
Happened before, and they claimed it wasn't their problem, but seems it is, once again
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Thank you! That has solved the problem for me :)
 
Is there a way to enable keyboard shortcuts on prompts? For example if you close Paint with a modified image, you are asked if you want to save the file or not - a quick press of Y on the keyboard in Windows 10 and the job is done.

Other shortcuts are missing that I use regularly in Windows 10 - such as when I want to create a new folder, in Windows 10 I can just right click, press W then F and voila. Windows 11 feels so backwards in this respect. :(
 
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darael said:
Is there a way to enable keyboard shortcuts on prompts? For example if you close Paint with a modified image, you are asked if you want to save the file or not - a quick press of Y on the keyboard in Windows 10 and the job is done.

Other shortcuts are missing that I use regularly in Windows 10 - such as when I want to create a new folder, in Windows 10 I can just right click, press W then F and voila. Windows 11 feels so backwards in this respect. :(
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The standard way to use Windows with keyboard only is to press Alt and it should underline the important key for each option. So a dialog with button called Save should underline the S, pressing Alt then S should press the button.
 
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throwaway4372 said:
The standard way to use Windows with keyboard only is to press Alt and it should underline the important key for each option. So a dialog with button called Save should underline the S, pressing Alt then S should press the button.
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With Windows 10, you just pressed N for no - no need for Alt+N, which I would usually expect to bring up a menu which is assigned to the N key. Some keyboard shortcuts you just get used to and know automatically.
 
darael said:
With Windows 10, you just pressed N for no - no need for Alt+N, which I would usually expect to bring up a menu which is assigned to the N key. Some keyboard shortcuts you just get used to and know automatically.
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I'm on Win 10. It's S for Save and N for Don't Save. You don't have to press Alt, it's just that pressing Alt shows you which letter is the hotkey. Pressing Y does nothing.
 
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Infidelus said:
Microsoft making usability improvements again :rolleyes:
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There's a few more to come yet:
Windows 11 removes several File Explorer options, here is how to restore them - Neowin

Here are the features Microsoft wants to delete:
  • Hide Folder Merge conflict.
  • Always show icons, never thumbnails.
  • Display file icon on thumbnails.
  • Display file type information on Folder tips.
  • Hide protected OS files.
  • Show drive letters.
  • Show popup description for Folder and Desktop items.
  • Show encrypted or compressed NTFS files in color.
  • Use sharing wizard.
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Microsoft says the affected options have been around for ages and are no longer regularly used by Windows 11 customers.
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That's one thing I've always taken issue with, sure MS telemetry may tell them not many people use those features but my guess is that's probably because of sampling bias.

Your average computer illiterate (no offence) user probably doesn't know about those features or doesn't care to change them, whereas people who know or care about those features probably also know how to de-fang telemetry so probably aren't included in the data. Windows is getting to the stage where all it's doing is catering to the lowest common denominator.
 
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Murphy said:
That's one thing I've always taken issue with, sure MS telemetry may tell them not many people use those features but my guess is that's probably because of sampling bias.

Your average computer illiterate (no offence) user probably doesn't know about those features or doesn't care to change them, whereas people who know or care about those features probably also know how to de-fang telemetry so probably aren't included in the data. Windows is getting to the stage where all it's doing is catering to the lowest common denominator.
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They only ever see what they want to see in the data anyhow, even if it says something else they seem to just manipulate it to see what the want :s one of the reasons I'm so scathing after encountering it used in blog posts and so on by MS developers in a very off-hand manner against people.

The "Hide protected OS files" option for instance gets used a ton by a not insignificant number of people even if they aren't the majority. At the end of the day the purpose of an OS is to enable the end user within reason it doesn't matter if that is 1 person of a million, in most respects it is reasonable to have an option there for a function.

The question would be how long they were supported at registry level as well before MS tried to phase the option out :s kind of going backwards really to the days when some of these options were only possible via a few lines in the CLI :s

EDIT: To be fair some of this stuff does need modernisation and/or integration but as usual MS goes with an obnoxious approach to it without a care how it impacts anyone not one of their standardised model users (if they even care about that).
 
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I don't disagree with your modernising statement but in typical MS fashion that always seems to involve introducing something new without it being a true replacement or it being half finished so we end up with stuff just being removed altogether or having to use some old stuff along with the new.
 
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So far I've used Windows 11 at work on other peoples machines via RDP but not really a fan. I'd like to say they went with form over function but it's more like 3 separate teams that never spoke to each other bolted together an OS.

For the most part I don't really need to mess around 'in Windows' once everything is set up as I use Directory Opus as a file manager replacement.

I'll give Windows 11 a go with a fresh install when I get new hardware.

Is there a debloater tool for 11 like there is for 10? or use the same one?
 
keyser van someone said:
So far I've used Windows 11 at work on other peoples machines via RDP but not really a fan. I'd like to say they went with form over function but it's more like 3 separate teams that never spoke to each other bolted together an OS.

For the most part I don't really need to mess around 'in Windows' once everything is set up as I use Directory Opus as a file manager replacement.

I'll give Windows 11 a go with a fresh install when I get new hardware.

Is there a debloater tool for 11 like there is for 10? or use the same one?
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I was actually thinking of posting last night about having to use Windows 11 for work reasons yesterday - coming home to my customised Windows 7 and even 10 setups felt so much nicer. I really like the start menu from 10 and UI look from 11 in concept but the execution is just frustratingly painful.
 
Something go off over the weekend with Edge?
Somehow it managed to lose all of my passwords on my main machine.
Luckily I have 2 machines and 2 i devices that were also syncing so managed to get them back, but was a bit of a moment when I couldn't log into websites and it wouldn't drop my passwords in there.


Made me think, perhaps I should look at another form of password management..
 
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