* Microsoft Windows 11 Thoughts & Discussion Thread *

NZXT30 · 6 Sep 2021 at 15:45

My plan is to have a windows 11 installation solely for gaming and windows 10 for everything else initially and switching to linux at some point.

TPM is the stuff of nightmares and anyone can see where it will lead eventually.

Trick · 6 Sep 2021 at 21:45

Quartz said:
Can you pass TPM through to a VM? If not, this is going to affect Google Stadia and the like.

Maybe with a hardware TPM, but not at the moment it seems with a cpu tpm - my virtualbox Win 11 install does not recognise the cpu tpm on my 3700X

V F · 6 Sep 2021 at 21:59

Trick said:
Maybe with a hardware TPM, but not at the moment it seems with a cpu tpm - my virtualbox Win 11 install does not recognise the cpu tpm on my 3700X

I have this feeling the CPU TPM will be hacked for gaming in due time. They always find a way.

Django x2 · 6 Sep 2021 at 22:37

Quartz said:
Can you pass TPM through to a VM? If not, this is going to affect Google Stadia and the like.

Yes. A Gen 2 VM will allow you to enable TPM and Secure boot. Win11 in VMs is broken though (using Enhanced Mode)

AStaley · 7 Sep 2021 at 13:25

I'm running Win11 in VMWare without issue, but don't think I will be moving to 11 anytime soon. The centred Start menu and softer looks don't bother me, I actually quite like the style in general, but I really don't like the dumbed down feel of the OS as a whole. The right click menus feel out of place to me, they feel like something ripped from a Linux distro.

Mr Big · 7 Sep 2021 at 19:06

Hello Sorry for intruding, but I need some advice does anyone know that if I buy a used TPM Module which is compatible with my motherboard and if it was not cleared or written back to an unused state if I connect the TPM Module to my motherboard can I use it or would it still be locked out or have I the ability to wipe it and start fresh. My M8 is selling one but he is looking £30 for it so before I buy it I would prefer to know before hand as I doubt I would be receiving a refund if it was locked and I had no way to access it. Any reply will be gravely appreciated and thank you to all who do in advance.

Quartz · 7 Sep 2021 at 22:00

Django x2 said:
Yes. A Gen 2 VM will allow you to enable TPM and Secure boot. Win11 in VMs is broken though (using Enhanced Mode)

What is a gen 2 VM?

Armageus · 7 Sep 2021 at 22:08

Quartz said:
What is a gen 2 VM?

Hyperv has a choice of emulated hardware gen1 Vs gen2

FredFlint · 8 Sep 2021 at 14:13

Quartz said:
What is a gen 2 VM?

Think gen 2 drops support for older hardware but not 100% what hardware that is.

Ad_Augendae · 9 Sep 2021 at 19:16

Windows 11 Insider Preview 22454.1000 (rs_prerelease)
AND
2021-09 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 for x64-based Systems (KB5005642)

welshdragon · 9 Sep 2021 at 20:20

Guys - if I install 11 via the Insider Channel, will I need to do a further clean install when the 11RC or GM launches?

Ad_Augendae · 9 Sep 2021 at 20:35

Ad_Augendae said:
Cheers, I've had a load of driver push/pulls this week. I am unsure if my SSD is causing problems though I seem to have 2000 read 200 write I was getting 2000/1000 maybe it's just an SSD thing!

Write speeds fixed!
Get In...

Code:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CrystalDiskMark 8.0.4 x64 (C) 2007-2021 hiyohiyo
                                  Crystal Dew World: https://crystalmark.info/
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
* MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
* KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

[Read]
  SEQ    1MiB (Q=  8, T= 1):  2287.560 MB/s [   2181.6 IOPS] <  3660.93 us>
  SEQ  128KiB (Q= 32, T= 1):     0.000 MB/s [      0.0 IOPS] <     0.00 us>
  RND    4KiB (Q= 32, T=16):     0.000 MB/s [      0.0 IOPS] <     0.00 us>
  RND    4KiB (Q=  1, T= 1):     0.000 MB/s [      0.0 IOPS] <     0.00 us>

[Write]
  SEQ    1MiB (Q=  8, T= 1):   983.291 MB/s [    937.7 IOPS] <  8500.46 us>
  SEQ  128KiB (Q= 32, T= 1):     0.000 MB/s [      0.0 IOPS] <     0.00 us>
  RND    4KiB (Q= 32, T=16):     0.000 MB/s [      0.0 IOPS] <     0.00 us>
  RND    4KiB (Q=  1, T= 1):     0.000 MB/s [      0.0 IOPS] <     0.00 us>

Profile: Default
   Test: 1 GiB (x5) [C: 31% (73/238GiB)]
   Mode: [Admin]
   Time: Measure 5 sec / Interval 5 sec
   Date: 2021/09/09 20:31:41
     OS: Windows 11  [10.0 Build 22454] (x64)

mrk · 10 Sep 2021 at 06:47

Asus is doing some updates to older boards with older Intel 100 series + CPUs to support Windows 11 - Great news. Wonder if Gigabyte will follow suit.

https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/amp/asus...support-windows-11-on-unsupported-intel-cpus/

darael · 10 Sep 2021 at 08:23

mrk said:
Asus is doing some updates to older boards with older Intel 100 series + CPUs to support Windows 11 - Great news. Wonder if Gigabyte will follow suit.

https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/amp/asus...support-windows-11-on-unsupported-intel-cpus/

Post 1351. You're a bit late aren't you?

mrk · 10 Sep 2021 at 09:24

No wonder I missed that, it was on a previous page!

Ad_Augendae · 10 Sep 2021 at 09:35

Ad_Augendae said:

Write speeds fixed!
Get In...

Code:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CrystalDiskMark 8.0.4 x64 (C) 2007-2021 hiyohiyo
                                  Crystal Dew World: https://crystalmark.info/
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
* MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
* KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

[Read]
  SEQ    1MiB (Q=  8, T= 1):  2287.560 MB/s [   2181.6 IOPS] <  3660.93 us>
  SEQ  128KiB (Q= 32, T= 1):     0.000 MB/s [      0.0 IOPS] <     0.00 us>
  RND    4KiB (Q= 32, T=16):     0.000 MB/s [      0.0 IOPS] <     0.00 us>
  RND    4KiB (Q=  1, T= 1):     0.000 MB/s [      0.0 IOPS] <     0.00 us>

[Write]
  SEQ    1MiB (Q=  8, T= 1):   983.291 MB/s [    937.7 IOPS] <  8500.46 us>
  SEQ  128KiB (Q= 32, T= 1):     0.000 MB/s [      0.0 IOPS] <     0.00 us>
  RND    4KiB (Q= 32, T=16):     0.000 MB/s [      0.0 IOPS] <     0.00 us>
  RND    4KiB (Q=  1, T= 1):     0.000 MB/s [      0.0 IOPS] <     0.00 us>

Profile: Default
   Test: 1 GiB (x5) [C: 31% (73/238GiB)]
   Mode: [Admin]
   Time: Measure 5 sec / Interval 5 sec
   Date: 2021/09/09 20:31:41
     OS: Windows 11  [10.0 Build 22454] (x64)

Here we go again.....

Code:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CrystalDiskMark 8.0.4 x64 (C) 2007-2021 hiyohiyo
                                  Crystal Dew World: https://crystalmark.info/
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
* MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
* KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

[Read]
  SEQ    1MiB (Q=  8, T= 1):  2217.782 MB/s [   2115.0 IOPS] <  3778.27 us>
  SEQ  128KiB (Q= 32, T= 1):  1774.254 MB/s [  13536.5 IOPS] <  2360.26 us>
  RND    4KiB (Q= 32, T=16):   262.171 MB/s [  64006.6 IOPS] <  7953.27 us>
  RND    4KiB (Q=  1, T= 1):    34.427 MB/s [   8405.0 IOPS] <   118.76 us>

[Write]
  SEQ    1MiB (Q=  8, T= 1):   245.974 MB/s [    234.6 IOPS] < 33897.72 us>
  SEQ  128KiB (Q= 32, T= 1):   243.211 MB/s [   1855.6 IOPS] < 17184.45 us>
  RND    4KiB (Q= 32, T=16):   228.857 MB/s [  55873.3 IOPS] <  9096.92 us>
  RND    4KiB (Q=  1, T= 1):    95.243 MB/s [  23252.7 IOPS] <    42.67 us>

Profile: Default
   Test: 1 GiB (x5) [C: 29% (68/238GiB)]
   Mode: [Admin]
   Time: Measure 5 sec / Interval 5 sec
   Date: 2021/09/10 9:22:17
     OS: Windows 11  [10.0 Build 22454] (x64)

Phil2008 · 10 Sep 2021 at 14:21

Can you add toolbars to the taskbar yet?

chroniclard · 10 Sep 2021 at 14:28

Phil2008 said:
Can you add toolbars to the taskbar yet?

Nope.

Phil2008 · 10 Sep 2021 at 14:47

Dammit, thanks

Rroff · 11 Sep 2021 at 06:30

Be nice if they took the time to get things like that right first, then iterated on it throughout the OS design :s

Instead we get more and more dumbed down implementations missing a well-rounded feature set then they rush on to the next "cool" feature which all too often is one no one actually asked for, wanted or have a need for.

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