Midweek Football Thread. *spoilers* 25-27
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replaced mine with stars, sorry if I offended anyone.
No one posted the link or am i missing it ?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/8223917.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/8223917.stm
They should give more retrospective punishments but that in no way detracts from the fact that eduardo cheated and deserves to be punished for it. I'm quite happy that uefa are doing this. Having some retrospective punishments is better than none in my book as it works better as a deterrant than nothing. Ideally all clear dives would be punished though.
Wenger looks like an idiot for refusing to accept it was a dive.
Wenger looks like an idiot for refusing to accept it was a dive.
We all know this isn't the start of a major clamp down by Uefa. Eduardo's got punished because it was seen by a lot of people and a big fuss was caused. Young's dives have barely been mentioned in the media and seeing as Rapid Vienna went through, I doubt they're going to bother complaining like Celtic have so it'll all be forgotten very quickly.
I think we're wasting our time hoping Uefa will bring in a system to retrospectively punish diving, however I don't understand why the EPL/FA don't do something about it; they clearly have people that review each League game to monitor the officials performance and on ocassion they retrospectively punish other offences so everything is there to punish diving too.
I think we're wasting our time hoping Uefa will bring in a system to retrospectively punish diving, however I don't understand why the EPL/FA don't do something about it; they clearly have people that review each League game to monitor the officials performance and on ocassion they retrospectively punish other offences so everything is there to punish diving too.
haha, aye that'll be it. Maybe we can use this clout to get us a bye to a World Cup or Euro finals in the next 10 years, since we ain't done it in the last 10
I agree it's to do with viewing figures and fuss. Celtic never made a complaint btw. Incidentally, the Scottish FA wanted to introduce retrospective punishsment for players diving, but Uefa/Fifa refused to sanction it. Hopefully this is a step in the right direction. We just need people at the top of the game to say it's wrong, do somethin about it, and hopefully we'll create a new generation of players who have a bit of decency about them and try to play the game how it should be played.
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What a load of rubbish, the Scottish FA don't have any clout with UEFA. I wish to god the chief executive of the English FA Brian Barwick would make a stand against diving and simulation. But he lacks balls as do most of the FA.
Soldato
Brian Barwick isn't with the FA anymore 
Caporegime
Much like Fergie, Mourinho and others who have stood by their players
...if it makes Wenger an idiot then i could say the same about many other managers.Anyhow just saw on SSN that Eduardo has been charged with deceiving or something...to me it looked like a dive and im an Arsenal fan but punishing him isnt going to help much...its not going to stop players from diving.
Personally i just wished they had done this earlier and got the likes of Drogba and Ronaldo when they dived left, right and center.
Anyways UEFA with Platini are just a bunch of idiotic ****wits tbqh.
I did find it odd you referred to the obscenities in this thread when we both hear worse coming out of Baz's mouth on Saturday nights.
I've told him not to swear any more, he was getting to be a bit of a potty mouth tbh :/
Soldato
I was only joking, I didn't mean to call you a n00b
Liar
Caporegime
As long as they do the same for all the diving ***** from now then, im all for it, but if that diving **** Eduardo is only going to get hit, then its a disgrace.
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It is complete nonsense, how many dives have gone unpunished between the Scotland game and this one, inconsistant punishment is the worst thing that can happen in the game.
As should have happened, I don't know, a decade ago, we should have, preseason, had a directive introduced to deal with diving. You can't make up rules as you go along, its beyond retarded. We used to have this every year, ref's will be cracking down on rule X, Y or Z this year. But people were told, the decision was made and it started before the season started.
Thats how diving should have been dealt with years and years ago, a few games into a season where theres already been loads of poor diving decisions, and we just randomly choose one guy to ban?
As for people saying he should have jumped over the keeper, maybe he would have done if physics worked differently, the minor, minor touch was on his rear leg which was behind him, the keeper coming in to his right, how exactly would you jump over someone at that point?
I still think easily the benefit of the doubt should be given and if the FA/UEFA have the balls to really crack down on diving, issue a league/europe wide initiative to retrospectively punish players who cheat for a one-two game ban increasing with every offense. Though to be fair if they do that, Real Madrid might be entitled to some of that 80million back as the product they got won't be fit for the purposes they bought him for anymore
The fact is you'd have to be a complete idiot to not except the POSSIBILITY that he felt contact, and decided the most important thing for him at that second, was to get the weight off his leg INSTANTLY, pressing down planting your leg harder to get some purchase before a jump would be more dangerous, as well, he'd be planting his leg harder as contact is being made. For a guy whose never dived before jumping all over the guy is ridiculous. I assume as people are mentioning Young that replays showed (both?) he dived last night rather embarassingly. Which he did all the second half of last season aswell.
Actually when you check when he became a diving little turd, it coincided with him getting involved in the England setup, which is where Gerrard, Owen, Beckham and several others all added diving to their game when Sven became the manager.
As should have happened, I don't know, a decade ago, we should have, preseason, had a directive introduced to deal with diving. You can't make up rules as you go along, its beyond retarded. We used to have this every year, ref's will be cracking down on rule X, Y or Z this year. But people were told, the decision was made and it started before the season started.
Thats how diving should have been dealt with years and years ago, a few games into a season where theres already been loads of poor diving decisions, and we just randomly choose one guy to ban?
As for people saying he should have jumped over the keeper, maybe he would have done if physics worked differently, the minor, minor touch was on his rear leg which was behind him, the keeper coming in to his right, how exactly would you jump over someone at that point?
I still think easily the benefit of the doubt should be given and if the FA/UEFA have the balls to really crack down on diving, issue a league/europe wide initiative to retrospectively punish players who cheat for a one-two game ban increasing with every offense. Though to be fair if they do that, Real Madrid might be entitled to some of that 80million back as the product they got won't be fit for the purposes they bought him for anymore
The fact is you'd have to be a complete idiot to not except the POSSIBILITY that he felt contact, and decided the most important thing for him at that second, was to get the weight off his leg INSTANTLY, pressing down planting your leg harder to get some purchase before a jump would be more dangerous, as well, he'd be planting his leg harder as contact is being made. For a guy whose never dived before jumping all over the guy is ridiculous. I assume as people are mentioning Young that replays showed (both?) he dived last night rather embarassingly. Which he did all the second half of last season aswell.
Actually when you check when he became a diving little turd, it coincided with him getting involved in the England setup, which is where Gerrard, Owen, Beckham and several others all added diving to their game when Sven became the manager.
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I'm surprised we are all still on about the diving incident. I'm an Arsenal fan, it was a dive, he should be banned for X amount of games and we should see this kind of punishment enforced properly from now on regardless of past cheaters from other teams and what they've gotten away with.