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I don't even know how to use this "dupe bug" :(

Surely the people who have used it, have already used their materials to build one of these massive (and/or ugly) structures, so deleting then inventory will be pretty pointless for them.
 
I would love to see the obviously duped structures get destroyed soo, such as the people who have duped tons of lightstone or obsidian.
 
Kazz

Yes you are right & I was waiting to see if this would be bought up.
This is the plan

I will give every player say 5,000 OCUKs to spend at the server shop,
95% of items will be listed at the shop to buy at 1 OCUKs each from the server shop,
Some items I will give to every player in a pack such as tools, diamonds ect

The problem is we have players that have dupped loads of items & hidden them in chests thinking they are going to be safe, the only way I can remove the items is to clear everyones chests out. I dont really want someone to have 5,000 diamonds, it will stopped extra fun mods been added to the server later on.
I want to build a economy on the server & paid warps extra but this can't be done unless the extra items that should not be there in the first place are removed.

This has to be done for the long term good of the server, this is a aplha soon to be beta game things like this are going to have to happen I am not doing it for the fun of it or out of spite its for the long term good of the server.

Who know as I said before we could end up with a whole world restart, that would be even worse.

If I could have put a stopped to the duping in the first place I would have but I was powerless.
Players would still do it behind my back & I don't want any sneeky stuff going on, on the server as its not nice, so I left players to dupe.
 
Kazz said:
You may think I'm overreacting or this is a snap decision post, but it isn't.

So because some people decided to use an exploit, those who didn't use it have all their chests emptied? I'm sorry, but that is a load of **** imo. A kick in the nuts to myself and no doubt Siew Wan who as far as I know hasn't used the dupe bug either.

I can understand losing items / chests of stones, wood that we've spent hours farming being cleared because of an update or the need for a full server reset, but because others abused a bug? ********.
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KingAdora said:
I don't even know how to use this "dupe bug" :(

Surely the people who have used it, have already used their materials to build one of these massive (and/or ugly) structures, so deleting then inventory will be pretty pointless for them.
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i agree completely with kazz and king adora, i was hoping to get back in to minecraft during my week off over christmas and i've spoken with you (garsands) at length about the duping, my rather dim views of it, and how i don't even know how to do it (nor would i, what sense of achievement does it provide?), heck, i've been offline whilst most of it has been going on!

you know the people (or at least a number of people) who have been duping because they're pretty open about it (and it's pretty obvious), you know what is obviously duped and what is not, why punish the people who've worked hard to create what they've created and mined what they've mined when they've had nothing to do with such and exploit?
 
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Dist said:
I would love to see the obviously duped structures get destroyed soo, such as the people who have duped tons of lightstone or obsidian.
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Over 50% of the buildings have been made with some dupped items,
Players have unknowing used dupped items. I hear players ask others if they have any glass, smooth stone ect.... that thay can have, I then hear a player who I know dupes say hang on I have some you can have, off they go & dupe that item is then pass on to the player who thinks its been made or been mined the hard way not dupped.

I also see new players logon for the first time & say 'hi this is my first time on', again someone who I know dupes replys with /tp to me & I will set you up with some tools unkown to them they now have dupped tools before they have even dug or placed there first block.

The best thing would be a world start then everyone knows everthing has been built the hard way in the spirt on the game.
 
vincent1989 said:
you know the people (or at least a number of people) who have been duping because they're pretty open about it (and it's pretty obvious), you know what is obviously duped and what is not, why punish the people who've worked hard to create what they've created and mined what they've mined when they've had nothing to do with such and exploit?
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Care to tell me of a better way ?

I can't tell whos chests are whos,
I can't find the hidden chests,
I can't ban everyone who has dupped as I need to be 100% sure first,
Do I ban the player that have used dupped items with out knowing,
How can I build a strong server economy with 5,000 diamonds hidden around the server that are not ment to be there ?
I can't just remove diamonds from chests it has to be everything,
I am open to a better plan..
 
Gar, yourself and most other server admins have (rightly, imo) installed mods that can drastically change the gameplay at a very fundamental level - i'm not sure such a strong stance on duping is needed at this point in the game's development, if you are trying to stick to the way the game is meant to be played whilst having those mods installed.

as far as the duping itself goes, i dont think digging for everything is realistic right now. I've mentioned the track and the MC Mania boosters but that's all im really working on atm - all that iron, all that gold. the time taken to dig for iron far outweighs the time it takes to craft and place the tracks, probably 10:1. gold i dont know, 100:1...1000:1. The digging required just for the iron for such a project is probably in the magnitude of weeks - 100's of hours - there are some things in the game that are so unbalanced right now that enforcing no dupes would pretty much end those sorts of projects.
 
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The best thing would be a world start then everyone knows everthing has been built the hard way in the spirt on the game.
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i'd prefer a world reset over a chest wipe, would allow people an opportunity to start again, rethink their structures and create a world entirely free of duplication, whereas a chest wipe can be seen as nothing other than a punishment, something that for many people would be unfair.

garsands said:
I can't find the hidden chests
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how do you intend to empty all chests then?
 
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I would go for a world reset, as the damage is already done. People can now just mine their own structures to get these materials back... Or just build big single block towers of their materials ready for the chest wipe...

One thing to be against duping (and I agree on that), but there are items in the world (and a lot of them) that shouldn't/couldn't be there to start with... I.e. all the lightstone I see everywhere.
 
garsands said:
Kazz

Yes you are right & I was waiting to see if this would be bought up.
This is the plan

I will give every player say 5,000 OCUKs to spend at the server shop,
95% of items will be listed at the shop to buy at 1 OCUKs each from the server shop,
Some items I will give to every player in a pack such as tools, diamonds ect

The problem is we have players that have dupped loads of items & hidden them in chests thinking they are going to be safe, the only way I can remove the items is to clear everyones chests out. I dont really want someone to have 5,000 diamonds, it will stopped extra fun mods been added to the server later on.
I want to build a economy on the server & paid warps extra but this can't be done unless the extra items that should not be there in the first place are removed.

This has to be done for the long term good of the server, this is a aplha soon to be beta game things like this are going to have to happen I am not doing it for the fun of it or out of spite its for the long term good of the server.

Who know as I said before we could end up with a whole world restart, that would be even worse.

If I could have put a stopped to the duping in the first place I would have but I was powerless.
Players would still do it behind my back & I don't want any sneeky stuff going on, on the server as its not nice, so I left players to dupe.
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That sounds like a great idea. I can completely understand your reasons behind it, thanks for replying ;).
 
Ive not been on in ages, but will be a uber regular again once my other game is over on the 22nd.

Im happy for a world reset, ive already stated id love to be a mining facility, selling and buying etc.... paying for help, earning contracts to supply big projects with certain items in timescales etc

Sounds monotonous to some maybe, but to me that would add an element to the game and make mining all the more important. Im not one for crafting tbh, but I like mining and am happy to play that role in a server with an economy. Even if its say, 100 OCUKs to clear some land or 1000 OCUKs to supply x amount of Iron Ore.... stuff like that.

So, server reset sounds good to me (plus once it is, we can all instantly work on a City Wall that stops monsters as much as possible.... proper paving/roads with lighting.... things to make the inside of the walls a safe place.

Then after that, expansion takes place at risk... maybe you hire a couple of mercenaries to kill the mobs whilst you create on a distant island... or maybe you are a nutter who will do it all alone, hiding in a wooden shack whilst skele's chug around pinging arrows at A,B and C.
 
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