MinisForum MS-01 - Owners Thread

You can either go down the route of having the fan blow onto the card or having it pull away,
Another option could be going down the fibre route and getting a media converter to sit between the MS-01 and the ISP modem, that's what I'll be doing when we get our 1G+ ISP installed (and when I get a new router)

Hi. That's not a bad shout, thought I would investigate before hacking up the top cover. Uk ones seem mighty expensive yet ones on AE are about £70 for something that looks reasonable with a marvell chip. I am a bit clueless on the cables between the converter and the x710 port on the ms01. Any suggestions welcome. Would I need dac to dac??

Thanks
 
Hi. That's not a bad shout, thought I would investigate before hacking up the top cover. Uk ones seem mighty expensive yet ones on AE are about £70 for something that looks reasonable with a marvell chip. I am a bit clueless on the cables between the converter and the x710 port on the ms01. Any suggestions welcome. Would I need dac to dac??

Thanks
Generally speaking providing the media converter says it supports SFP+ and its not something like HP or Cisco you can use DACs from most brands

There are manufacturers out there that also code the DACs for specific modules e.g. Cisco or HP if needed. Theres loads on certain online marketplaces :)

If you want to use fibre you can get SFP modules for that as well but the X710 can be a bit finnicky depending on the model of X710 :)
 
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Generally speaking providing the media converter says it supports SFP+ and its not something like HP or Cisco you can use DACs from most brands

There are manufacturers out there that also code the DACs for specific modules e.g. Cisco or HP if needed. Theres loads on certain online marketplaces :)

If you want to use fibre you can get SFP modules for that as well but the X710 can be a bit finnicky depending on the model of X710 :)
Thanks.
I was thinking this and this??


 
I suppose the only stumbling block could be a suitable psu for the converter. I've asked if they can help with that
Yeah, the converter would be the biggest query, especially ensuring that it doesn't run super hot either.

For that price though its probably worth a shot as if its not right just refund it and buy one from a UK seller or a different model :)
 
Yer tis lol...
Had some free time this afternoon so thought why not have a go...
10gtek dual 10gb rj45 nic fitted, had to cut off some of the half size bracket but no other fitting issues. Manufacture said fan not required but I've done it anyway given the compact build. Used my dremmel with some cutting discs to mod the cover. Had plenty of small nuts and bolts from RC modelling days so they came in handy.
£9, 3 x speed fan from amazon running off a usb port using 1.5w on maximum speed.. I have found the low setting seems fine at the moment extracting from the card so will see how that goes. My watt meter says the ms01 is using between 25 and 30w depending on what it's doing on the test bench including the fan on low. I'll be swapping it with my n100 mini pfsensev live firewall tomorrow hopefully. Good box but no 10gb interfaces so the ms01 will fully integrate with my 10gb lan &wan now...
Some pics. I'm no dremmel king so excuse any roughness haha :)
My friend printed my this free plan vertical stand I found. Looks good I think.


Thanks for your help and advice along the way. I'm sure I'll be back with questions in time haha..

Just need to get minisforum to refund the duty which is proving difficult even after they said they would....
 
Yer tis lol...
Had some free time this afternoon so thought why not have a go...
10gtek dual 10gb rj45 nic fitted, had to cut off some of the half size bracket but no other fitting issues. Manufacture said fan not required but I've done it anyway given the compact build. Used my dremmel with some cutting discs to mod the cover. Had plenty of small nuts and bolts from RC modelling days so they came in handy.
£9, 3 x speed fan from amazon running off a usb port using 1.5w on maximum speed.. I have found the low setting seems fine at the moment extracting from the card so will see how that goes. My watt meter says the ms01 is using between 25 and 30w depending on what it's doing on the test bench including the fan on low. I'll be swapping it with my n100 mini pfsensev live firewall tomorrow hopefully. Good box but no 10gb interfaces so the ms01 will fully integrate with my 10gb lan &wan now...
Some pics. I'm no dremmel king so excuse any roughness haha :)
My friend printed my this free plan vertical stand I found. Looks good I think.

Thanks for your help and advice along the way. I'm sure I'll be back with questions in time haha..

Just need to get minisforum to refund the duty which is proving difficult even after they said they would....
Cracking work, that looks like a pretty clean mod!!

No worries on the questions, any help I can give I'm happy to, likewise keep us updated on the unit and its temps as it may end up being a fairly popular modification if it stays cool, especially with RJ45 10G installed as well :)
 
Cracking work, that looks like a pretty clean mod!!

No worries on the questions, any help I can give I'm happy to, likewise keep us updated on the unit and its temps as it may end up being a fairly popular modification if it stays cool, especially with RJ45 10G installed as well :)
Thanks. I just wish I knew how I could check the temps if even possible under pfsense. Under unbuntu I could use sensors for some info but I'm not sure how or if you can do this with pfsense. I have disabled the x710 for now in the bios as its not needed.
Pfsense reports core temps at 28. It's pretty hot at top of the house given the temps today on test so likely to be a bit cooler in the rack in the garage.
Wonder what the operating temps are for this processor? (I was looking at the wrong unit lol!)

The n100 with no cooling, just a massive heatsink cover runs at 53....
 
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Thanks. I just wish I knew how I could check the temps if even possible under pfsense. Under unbuntu I could use sensors for some info but I'm not sure how or if you can do this with pfsense. I have disabled the x710 for now in the bios as its not needed.
Pfsense reports core temps at 28. It's pretty hot at top of the house given the temps today on test so likely to be a bit cooler in the rack in the garage.
Wonder what the operating temps are for this processor? (I was looking at the wrong unit lol!)

The n100 with no cooling, just a massive heatsink cover runs at 53....
If its like OPNsense I think you can get extensions that'll let you measure the temperature :)
 
hi there.
things are looking up. made some good progress so thought I would update. Originally I was using the of the rj45 2.5gb on board nics for the wan side connection and using one of the 10gb rj45 ports on the 10gtek card for the lan side but I kept getting "wan in" errors on pfsense or opnsense. All other interfaces and directions were fine. The errors would increase as activity happened across the WAN port. I tried both 2.5gb ports and this happened regardless wether I used them as a lan or wan port.... so that seems odd. I tested it on both platforms and both have the same issue. Now wether this is the driver, the cards or the firmware I'm not sure. I needed to find some sort of solution so it dawned on me my ONT has the 10gb port as well as the lower speed port so I setup opnsesne using both rj45 ports on the pci card, 1 for lan and 1 for the wan (ONT). Much to my surprise it worked first time. No further issues with "WAN IN" errors and I have my 10gb rj45 solution for both sides of my network along with a low power high speed device. Wont need to use any media converters or sfp to rj45 converters etc. I know its more than likely overkill for opnsense but it now meets all my requirements without any further equipment etc.

I left the fan on which I fitted and it sits right over the heatsink of the 10gb card and I think temps are looking good on the cpu side. I have since now moved it to being my live box and temps have changed very little with much more traffic going across.

Fingers crossed its finally ready to roll! - the debate now is I guess I need to get another one at some point as a back up in case it goes down through hardware failure!

couple of pics


opnsense dash with core temps


Its pulling around 26-30w which I'm happy with.

great to finally get there!
 
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hi there.
things are looking up. made some good progress so thought I would update. Originally I was using the of the rj45 2.5gb on board nics for the wan side connection and using one of the 10gb rj45 ports on the 10gtek card for the lan side but I kept getting "wan in" errors on pfsense or opnsense. All other interfaces and directions were fine. The errors would increase as activity happened across the WAN port. I tried both 2.5gb ports and this happened regardless wether I used them as a lan or wan port.... so that seems odd. I tested it on both platforms and both have the same issue. Now wether this is the driver, the cards or the firmware I'm not sure. I needed to find some sort of solution so it dawned on me my ONT has the 10gb port as well as the lower speed port so I setup opnsesne using both rj45 ports on the pci card, 1 for lan and 1 for the wan (ONT). Much to my surprise it worked first time. No further issues with "WAN IN" errors and I have my 10gb rj45 solution for both sides of my network along with a low power high speed device. Wont need to use any media converters or sfp to rj45 converters etc. I know its more than likely overkill for opnsense but it now meets all my requirements without any further equipment etc.

I left the fan on which I fitted and it sits right over the heatsink of the 10gb card and I think temps are looking good on the cpu side. I have since now moved it to being my live box and temps have changed very little with much more traffic going across.

Fingers crossed its finally ready to roll! - the debate now is I guess I need to get another one at some point as a back up in case it goes down through hardware failure!

couple of pics

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opnsense dash with core temps

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Its pulling around 26-30w which I'm happy with.

great to finally get there!
Marvellous stuff, glad to hear that progres is being made :)

Regarding the 2.5Gbit ports on the MS-01. I haven't had any stability issues with them however they do seem to be a bit painful to work with as in Server 2022 the drivers for them have to be bodged to work on one of the units since Intel doesn't have any official drivers to use for "Server" grade operating systems and the other for love nor money can I get the AMT function to work for OOB management. It seems that the better option is to go the route you have and to use PCI-e add in cards for anything that needs a truly stable network connection on the units :)

26-30w is great and is the real push with these sort of units, don't get me wrong they are by no means enterprise grade but the amount of power you get in these considering the form factor and power consumption is amazing

I've added a third unit into my setup to use as a backup hypervisor and to host my Veeam VM and like my other two hosts it's loaded with an additional X710-DA2 card for 4x 10Gbit connectivity and it works just as good as the first two.

One discovery I did make is that it appears to have made it back to Minisforum HQ that the thermal paste being shipped with the units was poor as out of the box it had a noticeable thermal improvement so it appears that is consistently fixed going forward. I've still re-pasted the unit as whilst it was improved with the X710-DA2, 2x 32GB DIMMs and 2x 1TB NVMe SSDs it was still pushing 55c when under small loads (Admittedly with regular spikes to 55c but between 30 and 40) however after the MX4 was applied it now tops at 47 as a peak.

It's becoming a bit of an addictive habbit getting a hold of them :D
 
Marvellous stuff, glad to hear that progres is being made :)

Regarding the 2.5Gbit ports on the MS-01. I haven't had any stability issues with them however they do seem to be a bit painful to work with as in Server 2022 the drivers for them have to be bodged to work on one of the units since Intel doesn't have any official drivers to use for "Server" grade operating systems and the other for love nor money can I get the AMT function to work for OOB management. It seems that the better option is to go the route you have and to use PCI-e add in cards for anything that needs a truly stable network connection on the units :)

26-30w is great and is the real push with these sort of units, don't get me wrong they are by no means enterprise grade but the amount of power you get in these considering the form factor and power consumption is amazing

I've added a third unit into my setup to use as a backup hypervisor and to host my Veeam VM and like my other two hosts it's loaded with an additional X710-DA2 card for 4x 10Gbit connectivity and it works just as good as the first two.

One discovery I did make is that it appears to have made it back to Minisforum HQ that the thermal paste being shipped with the units was poor as out of the box it had a noticeable thermal improvement so it appears that is consistently fixed going forward. I've still re-pasted the unit as whilst it was improved with the X710-DA2, 2x 32GB DIMMs and 2x 1TB NVMe SSDs it was still pushing 55c when under small loads (Admittedly with regular spikes to 55c but between 30 and 40) however after the MX4 was applied it now tops at 47 as a peak.

It's becoming a bit of an addictive habbit getting a hold of them :D
thanks for the info. I assume you have to get under that rubber block to re-paste it? any tips on that? thanks - I think I would probably leave it for now unless the temps rocket but useful to know how to do it. I finally got my payment back - was not straight forward and took way over a week of chasing but got there in the end thankfully.
 
thanks for the info. I assume you have to get under that rubber block to re-paste it? any tips on that? thanks - I think I would probably leave it for now unless the temps rocket but useful to know how to do it. I finally got my payment back - was not straight forward and took way over a week of chasing but got there in the end thankfully.
Glad to hear you got your money back from them :)

As for heat pasting, yes, you can poke 4 holes in the foam block with a screw driver to get to the heatsink screws. Once undone it's just a case of removing it, clearing up the old stuff, putting on the new stuff and re-screwing it back ony (

It's a decent heatsink with some bits to prevent over tightening and there's plenty of room incase too much thermal paste is applied. Overall it's quite easy (I think I put the measurements to the screws/a link to measurements earlier if needed)

If it's working fine without though I'd leave it as is, I'm just OCD when it comes to temps :)
 
Hi there

Still going strong. I have switched over to using both sfp ports with 10gb rj45 modules. Not seeing any issues with heat etc it seems. I have reversed the fan direction to inbound rather than out. Modules seem fine to the touch.

Ms01
 
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Hi . Any chance you could measure where those screw holes are for the heatsink please. I'm having a couple of pfsense panics and the error doesn't seem to point to anything specific so I would like to check the thermal paste anyway and carry out a memory test at the same time.

Many thanks
 
Hi . Any chance you could measure where those screw holes are for the heatsink please. I'm having a couple of pfsense panics and the error doesn't seem to point to anything specific so I would like to check the thermal paste anyway and carry out a memory test at the same time.

Many thanks
I don't have the exact measurements to hand however on the ServeTheHome forums link on one of the earlier posts there is a user who has the measurements photographed on there :)
 
Got me three of these running in a vmware cluster attached to NAS - *touches some wood* cannot fault them at all - seem to be really good. Ill post some more comments later on but well pleased with them.

Stelly
 
Sorry just need to ask are either of you using sfp+/dac cable to a switch for example for the x710.. Any recommendations of which generic sfp+/dac cable I can use.

Thanks
 
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